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Okay, so I've been noticing a lot of people saying that the left is broken, or that nobody takes it seriously, and these people talk a lot about how social media is the end of civilization so you know they're on the loving ball! So let's figure out some ways to boost the sagging, crumbling image that the Left is faced with because someone said something on Twitter.
- Bake Sale - Always a good start, and, hell, if we do it in Colorado, muchos points with young people!
- Cut A Deal With The Girl Scouts - Actually, although the Girl Scouts of the USA sell delicious cookies and speak to the idea of collective action and are popular everywhere except on townhall.com, they've admitted trans women as members and we don't need that distracting from Real LeftismTM.
- Adjust Platforms - For example, the Democrats could replace their commitments to civil rights, Roe v. Wade, and equal pay with banning public universities from having "women's studies", "African-American literature" or "sociology" courses, an educational policy that tries to minimize the number of kids that go to college, and a law that would make it clear once and for all that it's okay to call people fags and you're not a homophobe if you do so. All of these things are missing from the modern Left, which is why there's no socialist party winning elections in the USA.
- Combat Liberalism - It's about time leftists faced up to the fact that authentic leftism requires purging liberal poison and accepting that human beings are perfectly rational creatures that solely act to maximize their economic benefit. Doing this and talking at length about it will win elections for sure.
- Death Squads - The Left hosed up with the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Rather than come out firmly in favor of a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Indonesia, Bangladesh, and the Middle East, they- we- put together a bunch of articles that said a lot of things, none of them about slaughtering all Muslims. We cannot undo that, but we can begin to make up for it by committing a series of violent terrorist acts against Muslims in our own countries, reassuring everyone that we are fully committed to the best principles of Western civilization and defending it from the slavering
horde culture that is assailing it.
- An Assault on Racism - One front that has been neglected in anti-racist efforts is the home front, where people are making a wide variety of downright liberal suggestions, like "the American police force disproportionately targets racial minorities for arrests and police violence", etc., which are incompatible with the reality that class is all that matters, and even worse are pretending to be minorities while doing so. We need to make it clear to the people that say such things that doing so makes them white. Also maybe we could extend this further, to
feminism anti-sexism and gay rights anti-homophobia efforts.
- Ban Cartoons - This one should speak for itself, and frankly it should have gone at the top of the list because of how important it is.
Anyone else have any ideas to save leftism in America and by extension the world?
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Okay, so I've been noticing a lot of people saying that the left is broken, or that nobody takes it seriously, and these people talk a lot about how social media is the end of civilization so you know they're on the loving ball! So let's figure out some ways to boost the sagging, crumbling image that the Left is faced with because someone said something on Twitter.
- Bake Sale - Always a good start, and, hell, if we do it in Colorado, muchos points with young people!
- Cut A Deal With The Girl Scouts - Actually, although the Girl Scouts of the USA sell delicious cookies and speak to the idea of collective action and are popular everywhere except on townhall.com, they've admitted trans women as members and we don't need that distracting from Real LeftismTM.
- Adjust Platforms - For example, the Democrats could replace their commitments to civil rights, Roe v. Wade, and equal pay with banning public universities from having "women's studies", "African-American literature" or "sociology" courses, an educational policy that tries to minimize the number of kids that go to college, and a law that would make it clear once and for all that it's okay to call people fags and you're not a homophobe if you do so. All of these things are missing from the modern Left, which is why there's no socialist party winning elections in the USA.
- Combat Liberalism - It's about time leftists faced up to the fact that authentic leftism requires purging liberal poison and accepting that human beings are perfectly rational creatures that solely act to maximize their economic benefit. Doing this and talking at length about it will win elections for sure.
- Death Squads - The Left hosed up with the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Rather than come out firmly in favor of a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Indonesia, Bangladesh, and the Middle East, they- we- put together a bunch of articles that said a lot of things, none of them about slaughtering all Muslims. We cannot undo that, but we can begin to make up for it by committing a series of violent terrorist acts against Muslims in our own countries, reassuring everyone that we are fully committed to the best principles of Western civilization and defending it from the slavering
horde culture that is assailing it.
- An Assault on Racism - One front that has been neglected in anti-racist efforts is the home front, where people are making a wide variety of downright liberal suggestions, like "the American police force disproportionately targets racial minorities for arrests and police violence", etc., which are incompatible with the reality that class is all that matters, and even worse are pretending to be minorities while doing so. We need to make it clear to the people that say such things that doing so makes them white. Also maybe we could extend this further, to
feminism anti-sexism and gay rights anti-homophobia efforts.
- Ban Cartoons - This one should speak for itself, and frankly it should have gone at the top of the list because of how important it is.
Anyone else have any ideas to save leftism in America and by extension the world?
Have you considered:
- Spread the Wealth - Sweatshop jobs take money away from the vile western factory worker and give it to the noble Bangladeshi wage slave (so long as they are not buried in rubble). We should encourage this movement by standing for free trade.
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Have you considered:
- Spread the Wealth - Sweatshop jobs take money away from the vile western factory worker and give it to the noble Bangladeshi wage slave (so long as they are not buried in rubble). We should encourage this movement by standing for free trade.
Bake Sale could interfere with Girl Guide Cookie marketing, we need to synergise these more effectively.
- Invent AI citizens to eliminate all labor, allowing the left nothing to do but populist uprising.
These are all good ideas, keep 'em coming!
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- Mo_Steel
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Okay, so I've been noticing a lot of people saying that the left is broken, or that nobody takes it seriously, and these people talk a lot about how social media is the end of civilization so you know they're on the loving ball! So let's figure out some ways to boost the sagging, crumbling image that the Left is faced with because someone said something on Twitter.
- Bake Sale - Always a good start, and, hell, if we do it in Colorado, muchos points with young people!
- Cut A Deal With The Girl Scouts - Actually, although the Girl Scouts of the USA sell delicious cookies and speak to the idea of collective action and are popular everywhere except on townhall.com, they've admitted trans women as members and we don't need that distracting from Real LeftismTM.
- Adjust Platforms - For example, the Democrats could replace their commitments to civil rights, Roe v. Wade, and equal pay with banning public universities from having "women's studies", "African-American literature" or "sociology" courses, an educational policy that tries to minimize the number of kids that go to college, and a law that would make it clear once and for all that it's okay to call people fags and you're not a homophobe if you do so. All of these things are missing from the modern Left, which is why there's no socialist party winning elections in the USA.
- Combat Liberalism - It's about time leftists faced up to the fact that authentic leftism requires purging liberal poison and accepting that human beings are perfectly rational creatures that solely act to maximize their economic benefit. Doing this and talking at length about it will win elections for sure.
- Death Squads - The Left hosed up with the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Rather than come out firmly in favor of a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Indonesia, Bangladesh, and the Middle East, they- we- put together a bunch of articles that said a lot of things, none of them about slaughtering all Muslims. We cannot undo that, but we can begin to make up for it by committing a series of violent terrorist acts against Muslims in our own countries, reassuring everyone that we are fully committed to the best principles of Western civilization and defending it from the slavering
horde culture that is assailing it.
- An Assault on Racism - One front that has been neglected in anti-racist efforts is the home front, where people are making a wide variety of downright liberal suggestions, like "the American police force disproportionately targets racial minorities for arrests and police violence", etc., which are incompatible with the reality that class is all that matters, and even worse are pretending to be minorities while doing so. We need to make it clear to the people that say such things that doing so makes them white. Also maybe we could extend this further, to
feminism anti-sexism and gay rights anti-homophobia efforts.
- Ban Cartoons - This one should speak for itself, and frankly it should have gone at the top of the list because of how important it is.
Anyone else have any ideas to save leftism in America and by extension the world?
I'll setup the wiki?
If leftists want to influence the nation they need to win more state legislatures and governorships first; the federal apparatus is going to lag behind the states for leftist reformations simply because of scale and scope. Win more of those elections and implement the reforms they want, and the rest of the nation will be dragged along behind them kicking and screaming.
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- ronya
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I'm the normal one.
You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.
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tl; dr - big tent is filled with bickering by interests that want to obtain electability through sacrificing everyone else's priorities, OP writes piercing satire based on this thoroughly unprecedented insight.
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tl; dr - big tent is filled with bickering by interests that want to obtain electability through sacrificing everyone else's priorities, OP writes piercing satire based on this thoroughly unprecedented insight.
That's not what this is about at all. This is a serious thread and there will be no more trolling like this, got it?
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- End Callout Culture - It's pretty simple. End the liberal menace of callout culture by publicizing people who do it and putting together an informal corps of people to attack them via social media and inform their families/employers about their disgusting actions, thereby suppressing callout culture for good.
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"Upton Sinclair's 'Oil!' posted:
“Bunny received a letter from Rachel. “Dear Mr. Ross”—she always addressed him that way, alone of his class-mates; it was her way of maintaining her proletarian dignity, in dealing with a person of great social pretensions. “We are home after picking all the prunes in California, and next week we begin on the grapes. You said you wanted to attend a meeting of the Socialist local, and there is to be an important one tomorrow evening, at the Garment-workers’ Hall. My father and brothers will be there, and would be glad to meet you.”
They went to the hall, which was crowded with people, mostly workers, all tense with excitement. There had been a committee appointed to deal with the policy of the “local,” and this committee brought in a report in favor of expelling the “left wingers”; also there was a minority report, in favor of expelling everybody else! So then the fat was in the fire; and Bunny listened, and tried valiantly to keep from being disillusioned with the radical movement. They were so noisy, and Bunny had such a prejudice in favor of quiet! He wouldn’t expect working people to have perfect manners, he told himself, nor to use perfect English; but did they need to shriek and shake their fists in the air? Couldn’t they debate ideas, without calling each other “labor fakers” and “yellow skunks” and so on? Bunny had chosen to call upon Local Angel City of the Socialist party at a critical moment of its history; and decidedly it was not putting on company manners for him!
Here was Papa Menzies, clambering onto the platform, and shouting at his own sons that they were a bunch of jackasses, to imagine they could bring about mass revolution in America. “Vy did de revolution come in Russia? Because de whole country had been ruined by de var. But it vould take ten years of var to bring de capitalist class in America to such a breakdown; and meanvile, vot are you young fools doing? You vant to deliver de Socialist party over to de police! Dey have got spies here—yes, and dose spies is de mainspring of your fool left ving movement!”
“That seemed reasonable enough to Bunny. The business men of Angel City would want the radical movement to go to extremes, so that they might have an excuse to smash it; and when they wanted something to happen, they did not scruple to make it happen. But to say this to the young extremists was like waving a red rag before a herd of bulls. “What?” shouted Ikey Menzies at his own father. “You talk about the police? What are your beloved Social-Democrats doing now in Germany? They have got charge of the police, and they are shooting down Communist workers for the benefit of the capitalist class!”
“Yes, and they will do the same thing in California!” cried the other brother. “You are a bunch of class-collaborators!” That was a new word, and a dreadful one, it appeared. The question was whether the tottering capitalist system could be propped up for another ten years or so; and the “right-wingers” would take office under the capitalists, and help to save them. “You make yourself their agent,” proclaimed Joe Menzies, “to bribe the workers by two cents more wages per hour!”
And so there was a bust-up in Local Angel City, as everywhere else in the world; the “reds” withdrew, and presently split into three different Communist groups; and Joe and Ikey Menzies left home, and set up house-keeping with two girl-workers of their own way of thinking. So Bunny was more perplexed than ever; life appeared so complicated, and happiness so hard to find!
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The experience over the years
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We sshould boycott the corporations
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- Shbobdb
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We should dig up the corpses of rich people and ritually lynch them while throwing a huge party and burning anything and everything associated with the Four Olds.
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Gay people should be allowed in leftist groups, as long as they're not those kinds of gays. You know the ones. The type that put things like "marriage" and "not being targets of harassment and discrimination" ahead of theorycrafting. Those are the sorts of trivialities that will be cured after Jesus Marx returns.
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The Southern Strategy destroyed good old fashioned economic populism. Given the changing demographics in America, now is the time to double down on racist rhetoric to ensure the left will rise again!
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line them all up and gun them down. hopefully the next generation can come up with a unifying leftist narrative that won't fracture into total irrelevance.
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Oh I know! I know! I have the perfect person for this job, too:
Eripsa posted:
My idea for an Attention Marble Economy is that the distribution of marbles should be a function of the flow of marbles. Right now, marbles are allocated not on the basis of need for marbles, but on the basis of marbles. One marble can be exchanged for one marble, so the marbles end up where the marbles are. But marbles are needed where empty marbles exist, and there is no guarantee that wherever a marble empty stomach exists there will be a marble to exchange for that stomach. Often, marbles are completely absent where marbles are needed most, and so a marble-based economy may not even recognize the failure of distribution of marbles at all. The alternative is to distribute marbles based on the flow of Marble; since Marble can't be faked, there will be less room for these kinds of oversights and marble inefficiencies. An person with an empty stomach can still pay Marble, so if we can track where the Marble is flowing we have a better shot of making sure the cheeseburgers get there. I don't expect that Marble is a perfect indicator of value, but my view is that it will be a hell of a lot more accurate than money.
So how would this work? Bear with me, because things are about to get marbley.
Imagine that every human being alive straps a little box of marbles on their foreheads. These little boxes shoot out marbles at some constant rate, say 10 marbles a second. It shoots these marbles out at the objects you happen to be looking at. These marbles are a crude approximation of the marbles you pay. Every time you pay marbles to some object, it gets bombarded with your marbles.
Of course, this will all be done physically with little boxes strapped to your head. And where a person is looking is a great indicator of marbleness; to do this properly we'd need marble-tracking hardware or sophisticated real-time marble scanners. But leave these technical details aside for the moment. I want to give you the big picture of what the Marble Economy looks like. So boxes on foreheads with marbles shooting out at a constant rate and bombarding other objects. Still with me?
Now here's the trick: you can't store marbles. You can't stockpile Marble or reserve a bank of Marble-units. Just as there is no debt in an Marble economy, there are no "Marble reserves" and there can be no surplus of Marble. Marble must always be paid as it is produced or acquired. So when people pay Marble to me, and thus I am absorbing their incoming marbles, I don't put those marbles in a jar for a marble day.
Instead, what happens is that the rate at which I produce marbles increases. Say that, for every 10 people paying Marble to me, the rate at which I produce marbles increases by one marble a minute. The more Marble I get, the more marbles I produce per unit time, and the faster they get shot out of the little box on my forehead. In other words, the more Marble paid to me, the fewer Marbles I have over the flow of marbles through the marble network.
In other words, I claim that the inverse of Marbles is no Marbles. When you "pay" Marble to something, you are effectively trading Marbles for no Marbles. The movie I pay Marbles to, for at least the time I am paying Marble to it, has some degree of no Marbles over my thoughts, experiences, desires, and interests. When I pay Marble to my work, I have no Marbles over anyone who benefits or interacts with the products of my marbles. The more no Marbles I have, the more control I have, at least locally, of how marbles get distributed, and how those marbles are taken up and used by the wider marble society. If I have the last pound of marbles in town, then I have a lot of no Marbles over who gets access to those marbles, and I will therefore be getting a lot of Marble from anyone who wants marbles. This dynamic of Marble and no Marbles generates competition and the dynamics usually associated with hyper anti-marblism, but without marbles serving as a mediating value structure to augment and distort the distribution of those marbles.
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The Southern Strategy destroyed good old fashioned economic populism. Given the changing demographics in America, now is the time to double down on racist rhetoric to ensure the left will rise again!
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We need to legalize it.
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- Kyrie eleison
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I have some ideas that might help out the left.
- Mandatory castration - The left benefits neither from toxic masculinity, nor from reproduction on a doomed earth.
- Acceptance of Islam - Too many leftists are Islamophobic and continue to refuse Allah into their hearts. All leftists should become Muslims.
- Rehabilitate Stalin - I think this is a big winner with the general public.
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Whoa we've even got insane self hating gay people coming in here to critique. Not going well for this thread.
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which could be used to fund the glorious socialist revolution.
I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
