Zombywuf posted:

Yup. Now imagine what this looks like in 10-20 years time.

serious gaylord posted:

More police officers died from training accidents or shooting themselves accidentally with their own gun than were killed by suspects in the US. Yet the way police officers are trained is that its a 'Us versus them' mentality and they can kill you at ANY TIME so shoot first ask questions later.

Zephro posted:

There's a decent chance that it'll be robots doing the picking with minimal human oversight in case something goes wrong.

Renaissance Robot posted:

There's a really great quote in the thread Prince John linked where some guy is all "so if someone pulls a knife on a British cop, what do they do since they don't have a gun, pull their own knife out and fight him?" like we have some specific aversion to guns and not lethal weapons in general

Junior G-man posted:

I wonder what new bullshit service jobs will be invented for that time, because we surely will not be moving towards the 3-day working week.

Junior G-man posted:

I wonder what new bullshit service jobs will be invented for that time, because we surely will not be moving towards the 3-day working week.

Zephro posted:

There's a decent chance that it'll be robots doing the picking with minimal human oversight in case something goes wrong.

dispatch_async posted:

They already do half the job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtBa9yVZBJM

Zephro posted:

https://medium.com/ondemand/the-shut-in-economy-ec3ec1294816

Zephro posted:

interacting socially with the client (if necessary)

Zephro posted:

that bit at the end about "helping people do their jobs, not replacing people" is such bullshit, heh.

Renaissance Robot posted:

There's a really great quote in the thread Prince John linked where some guy is all "so if someone pulls a knife on a British cop, what do they do since they don't have a gun, pull their own knife out and fight him?" like we have some specific aversion to guns and not lethal weapons in general

*cuts u with razor blades sewn to the back of my baseball cap*

serious gaylord posted:

No they all have surplus military flak vests on at all times. American police are usually as tooled up as the average military unit.

Renaissance Robot posted:

Are you saying there are things to do other than work, citizen OwlFancier? Sounds like skiver talk to me. You'd best learn how to buckle down and get on if you don't want your nose pressed to the grindstone, if you know what I mean

OwlFancier posted:

Much as I'd like everyone to turn into some kind of weird star trek future where we all resolve conflict by citing shakespeare at each other and drink fancy tea, it's weird that nobody is at all interested in even making good use of the displaced labor to fill public service roles.

Zephro posted:

There's a decent chance that it'll be robots doing the picking with minimal human oversight in case something goes wrong.

OwlFancier posted:

I can't wait until someone applies that logic to governance and we end up with Full Technocracy Now.

OwlFancier posted:

Much as I'd like everyone to turn into some kind of weird star trek future where we all resolve conflict by citing shakespeare at each other and drink fancy tea, it's weird that nobody is at all interested in even making good use of the displaced labor to fill public service roles.

Everyone apparently thinks that part time supermarket polite-greeting technician is a more valuable role than almost any low-skill government job.

OwlFancier posted:

Obviously in the future social work will have been replaced because society will have been replaced with always-on augmented reality so nobody will move or speak, just lay comatose and drool and tweet the person in the next bed from the drug-addled cushion of their mind jacked robot they pilot to experience the world with.

Zombywuf posted:

Leaving us free to pursue higher pursuits like philosophy, poetry and mathematics.

OwlFancier posted:

2086 BAFTA awarded to "sext compilation vol 31" by "xXmadwubz73Xx", a heart wrenching insight into the futility of physical relationships in the modern world lol desu~!

Zephro posted:

I don't know, but you should check very carefully exactly what the legal situation is. If that happens in a shared-ownership scheme, for instance, it turns out that you can have the house repossessed and have no claim on any money that you've paid for your share of the house:

http://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2013/sep/03/hidden-dangers-shared-ownership

This seems mad to me but is apparently the law. So make sure you read all the fine print very carefully and it'd probably even be worth getting professional legal advice.

Prince John posted:

I do remember a cop in that thread saying that apparently whatever vests they wore didn't prevent lethal injury if stabbed. I was quite surprised, as I had the same 'tooled up' expectations.

Have you guys got to the part of that thread where a couple of prison guards scald the skin from a prisoner's body? I think that was pretty much rock bottom for me.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

quote:

David Cameron is committed to “breaking the link” between the European court of human rights and the supreme court to ensure the UK’s highest court remains the “ultimate arbiter of human rights”, Downing Street has said.

The Daily Telegraph reported on Monday that the prime minister had overridden objections from Michael Gove and Theresa May, who believe that pulling out of the convention may be the “only solution” to assert the supremacy of UK courts over the Strasbourg-based court.

Gove has been forced to delay plans to scrap the Human Rights Act after it became clear to government whips that they would be overwhelmed by a Tory rebellion. The prime minister has been advised that he needs to abandon a “deeply offensive” threat to withdraw from the European convention on human rights if he is to win support of David Davis and Ken Clarke for his plans to repeal the Human Rights Act.

Senior Tories have told No 10 that Gove will have to embark on a major revision of Tory plans, outlined last year by his predecessor, Chris Grayling, to withdraw from the convention if parliament failed to secure the right to veto judgments from the European court of human rights. Gove is making clear that he regards the Grayling document as a starting point but is not bound by it. But he is saying he is bound by the Conservative general election manifesto.

The Tory manifesto said: “The next Conservative government will scrap the Human Rights Act, and introduce a British Bill of Rights. This will break the formal link between British courts and the European court of human rights, and make our own supreme court the ultimate arbiter of human rights matters in the UK.”

Dominic Cummings, Gove’s former special adviser, blogged in response to the Daily Telegraph story: “The No 10 line that ‘Gove hasn’t made up his mind yet’ doesn’t make sense. Obviously only the prime minister can decide whether to withdraw from an international treaty, as removing the jurisdiction of the Strasbourg court requires. Gove’s job on the HRA is to punt it into the long grass then deliver a fudge that leaves Strasbourg in charge. The sensible thing for him to do is give this doomed project to a junior minister and focus on other priorities.”

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/jun/01/david-cameron-european-court-of-human-rights

OwlFancier posted:

"Oh my god that guy in front of me has haaaaaands, look at his haaaaaaaands, they've got like, fingers and that on them.

Oh wow maybe I have haaaands too. Woooooaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh."

kingturnip posted:

So I've been drinking manically since the Exit Poll.
Have I missed anything important?

quote:

Jean-Claude Juncker, the European commission president, has said that David Cameron wants to use the EU referendum to “dock” the UK permanently into the 28-nation bloc. Juncker told a German newspaper: "Brexit is also a question that does not arise, it is not what the British are seeking. Cameron wants to dock his country permanently to Europe."

A senior German politician has said Cameron’s plans to change the EU’s treaties as part of his renegotiation are “not realistic” before the end of 2017. As the Press Association reports, Norbert Roettgen, the chairman of the Bundestag’s foreign affairs committee, spoke at a briefing in London, Roettgen, a former minister in Angela Merkel’s government, said: "I can’t see treaty change as a realistic option within the course of two years."

He said there was not an “atmosphere” within Europe for change, which would require lengthy procedures in each of the 28 member states, with some legally obliged to put the proposals to a public referendum. "This leads me to conclude that one should be realistic. Treaty change, to have a consensus about the contents and then to have the procedure of treaty change within two years, I would venture to say this is simply not realistic."

quote:

Where others hedge, Ms Kendall and her team describe the recent election as “catastrophic”. She urges her party to ditch the “fantasy” that Britons are left-wing. Raised in the middle-class, southern suburb of Watford, she well knows the people Labour must target if it is to win again and exudes the sort of hard-headed practicality that appeals to such voters—mostly avoiding the jargon and circumlocutions that alienate them yet infect the speech of many politicians.

What’s more, she has the makings of an answer to the existential question before Labour (and struggling centre-left parties across Europe): how to make society fairer when money is tight? Ms Kendall’s solution, honed during her career in think-tanks, as an adviser to the Blair government and in a series of recent essays, is reform of the state. She envisages decentralised public services run by employees, citizens and voluntary groups, and is relaxed about private-sector involvement. Speaking to her, your columnist’s impression was of a sceptical social democrat with a liberal’s doubts about central government: she pooh-poohs Westminster’s fusty rituals and mocks politicians’ and civil servants’ faith in the power of speeches, regulations and dictats to get things done.

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21652367-would-labour-heeded-painful-messages-its-most-promising-wannabe-leader-liz-kendalls

Seaside Loafer posted:

Is it just me or would any serious politician who had some wicked fun times on drugs when they were a kid and admit to it would actually gain a bit of respect from the almost everyone who has had a dabble?

SNAKES N CAKES posted:

The most substantial news on the Brexit has been coming, strangely, from Germany:

Seaside Loafer posted:

Is it just me or would any serious politician who had some wicked fun times on drugs when they were a kid and admit to it would actually gain a bit of respect from the almost everyone who has had a dabble?

Guavanaut posted:

In which Jean-Claude Juncker and David Cameron discuss docking.

Seaside Loafer posted:

loving tracers dude, check this poo poo out ... wooah

Is it just me or would any serious politician who had some wicked fun times on drugs when they were a kid and admit to it would actually gain a bit of respect from the almost everyone who has had a dabble?

Silly isnt it. Did not inhale, didnt come when she sucked me off etc

Prince John posted:

I do remember a cop in that thread saying that apparently whatever vests they wore didn't prevent lethal injury if stabbed. I was quite surprised, as I had the same 'tooled up' expectations.

kingturnip posted:

So I've been drinking manically since the Exit Poll.
Have I missed anything important?