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FINE gently caress YOU HERE HERE'S THE GOD drat LINK TO THE GOD drat BEERSHEETS old dog child posted:Goon Fantasy Football IRC Welcome back Fantasy Sports Fans, it's 2015. It's officially time to In addition to the links below you can also check out this list from Dynasty League Football. This Reddit post also has a ton of useful information. Free League Hosting Services
Want to know when a previously unheard of player is starting, or that your stud is out for the game because of a DUI? Twitter is your friend! These recommendations come from Dirt Worshipper and Azhais. Football Guys @Sigmundbloom Produces the excellent "Audible" podcast. My favorite follow. @MattWaldman Writes the Rookie Scouting Portfolio. I'm not sure he sleeps. @JeneBramel MD and Football Guy, excellent for injury updates on gameday morning and IDP advice Misc. Writers @4for4_Paul - from 4for4, most accurate guy the last couple years @ChrisWesseling Former writer for NBC rotoworld, works for Falcons media now I think. Not sure if he's still gonna do fantasy when 2013 rolls around. If he does, he's one of the best, and well worth the follow. @dpbrugler Dane Brugler, former NFL scout and writer for CBS, good follow. @SC_DougFarrar Doug Farrar of shutdown corner @LanceZierlein Runs thesidelineview.com, great follow @Dumonjic_Alen Bleacher report/sidelineview contributor, player evals. Smart kid. Pro Football Focus @MikeClayNFL Accurate, prolific, one of the better writers @JeffRatcliffe Great for IDP @PFF_RossMiles Also great for IDP, does a weekly IDP show with Ratcliffe @dynastytim used to write for Dynasty League Football, just joined PFF. Great dynasty follow. NFL Guys @AlbertBreer @gregcosell @mortreport @AdamSchefter Varg posted:Footballguys just emailed out an entire list of who to follow on twitter for every team's fantasy purposes.. I might actually pay attention to twitter now. I put it into an excel file in case anyone who's not subscribed to their mailings is interested. BeerGod feel free to add this to the OP too if you want Podcasts Just listen to Azhais: Azhais posted:
Also Dren: Dren posted:You should add Christopher Harris's Fantasy Underground (available on iTunes) podcast to the podcast list. Introduction Fantasy Football is the ancient art of nerds pouring over statistics in the hopes of predicting how infinitely more athletic and successful men will perform over the course of a professional football game. In recent history it has become a billion dollar industry while infusing itself into the collective psyche of the NFL. Countless podcasts, articles, websites, and every other source under the sun have sprung up in support of what is essentially glorified socialized gambling. There's even a television show about a league. Fantasy Football is basically Dungeons & Dragons for The leagues themselves vary from friendly to insane, including at least one where the loser gets a tattoo chosen by the winner. Other leagues have pots worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, or byzantine rules about relegation, delegation, salary caps, and every other statistic under the sun. We are collectively insane, and we can't get enough. Fantasy Football itself is a lot of fun. Not only do you get to make a game out of watching football, but it also forces you to learn about the sport as a whole. I would never have known (or cared) that last year Darren McFadden was struggling with the Raider's transition from a power blocking scheme to a zone block until he became my first round draft pick and started costing me games. It makes you a better fan when you know all the players on the field. Dirt Worshipper said it best: Dirt Worshipper posted:Before I played fantasy I despised it. We all know the obnoxious guy at the sports bar in the Brady jersey, running in between TV’s screaming ”Throw Jennings the ball!”. They disagree fundamentally with the lessons our fathers taught us about football: You root for your home team, through good years and bad. The bad years are meant to be borne with grim fidelity, the good years are our reward. Fantasy was just wrong. The Basics A league consists of several owners (typically 12), one of whom is the commissioner who manages the league. At the beginning of the season each owner drafts a roster of players. Rosters are typically fifteen players and consist of starters and a bench of reserve players to replace starters who are injured or on bye weeks. A typical starting lineup that will mirror NFL positions and consist of 1 Quarterback (QB), 2 Running Backs (RB), 3 Wide Receivers (WR), 1 Tight End (TE), a Place Kicker (PK), and a Team Defense/Special Teams (DST). Each week your players will score points for your team according to their performance. Scoring can be very simple or incredibly complicated depending on the league, but many leagues use a standard scoring system where passing provides 1 point per 25 yards, 4 points per passing touchdown, and -1 point per interception and receiving and rushing gain 1 point per 10 yards, 6 points per receiving/rushing touchdown. Field goals are typically worth 3 points, and team defense scoring depends on a number of factors including sacks, interceptions, points allowed, defensive touchdowns, etc. Many leagues will use different scoring systems depending on the preferences of the players. One significant difference is PPR, or Points Per Reception, where wide receiver are awarded a set number of points (typically 0.5 or 1) for every reception. The league season will go for a set number of weeks during the regular NFL season. Typically the last two to four weeks of the regular season are reserved for the playoffs, and most leagues end on the sixteenth week because many NFL teams will sit their star players in Week 17 if the outcome doesn't matter. Variations There are many roster variations that different leagues will use. Many leagues use a flex position where different positions can fit into a slot. The most common form of flex position replaces the third WR position in the standard lineup above with a WR/RB/TE flex position. That means that any Wide Receiver, Running Back, or Tight End player could be used in that slot. Leagues where that flex position allows a QB are typically called "2 QB leagues" because quarterbacks typically score far more points that other players. Other leagues utilize IDP or Individual Defensive Players instead of Team Defenses. IDP players score points for tackles, sacks, interceptions, touchdowns, etc. Many leagues are several years old and include rules to provide continuity between seasons. In contrast to a redraft league where every player is drafted at the start of each season some leagues use keepers where team owners are allowed to keep a set number of players per year. Other leagues are dynasty leagues where the entire roster is kept from year to year. Typically dynasty leagues use much deeper benches and include a rookie draft. The Draft Every league starts with a draft, where team owner pick their players. There are two major types of draft; the snake draft and the auction draft. A snake draft is where every owner receives a draft position and then picks a player in order for a number of rounds equal to the roster size. It's called a snake draft because the order "snakes" back and forth each round. In other words the owner who picked last in the first round will pick first in the second. Auction drafts are where each team owner has a set budget and they bid for each player until everyone's roster has been filled. There are numerous drafting strategies out there, but ultimately the goal of any draft is to get the maximum amount of value for your players. Trades and the Waiver Wire While drafting is essential, the most successful teams typically win by taking advantage of the waiver wire and trades. Trading is precisely what it sounds like; players offer each other trades that are accepted or rejected. Many leagues incorporate an approval process to prevent collusion where two players will deliberately stack one team and then split the winnings; there is no universe where Adrian Peterson is worth Mark Sanchez. Depending on the league trading may either be nonexistent or commonplace. Many leagues will end trading several weeks before the playoffs begin. The NFL has hundreds of players and most of them will not be on a team roster. As players are injured or fall out of favor team owners will be forced to pick up free agents to replace them. To do this they use the waiver wire. Each week individual players are locked the moment their team starts their game. For the duration of this "waiver period" owners who wish to claim a free agent submit a "waiver claim." Owners who wish to make more than one waiver claim must indicate the priority of their claims. At the end of the waiver period (typically a day or two after the beginning of the new week) the league software checks the standings of the teams. Going in reverse order (worst standing to highest) the teams get their highest priority claim. If multiple teams have submitted waiver claims for the same player it will go the team with the lowest standing, and the other teams will get their lower priority claims. After the waiver period has ended every player is available to be claimed immediately. The waiver wire is extremely important. Alfred Morris, the 5th ranked running back of 2012, was a free agent in most leagues until the first week. Many owners use the waiver wire to "stream" defenses and other players based on that week's match. Beer4TheBeerGod fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Hazo posted:Is Graham expected to be #1 at TE again this year now that he's with Seattle, or has Gronk moved up (followed by a plummet in TE value)? I used my 1.12/2.1 picks on Graham and Ball last year in the league I run and missed the championship for the first time ever and I need to be talked out of doing that again. I'd say Gronk is over Graham at this point. There's a metric fuckton of uncertainty going on with respect to Seattle and how they'll use Graham. Hopefully he'll bounce back this year, because while he was TE2 last year there wasn't really that big of a difference between him and the rest of the field.
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# ¿ May 4, 2015 17:28 |
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old dog child posted:Perfect thread tag Done.
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# ¿ May 4, 2015 18:30 |
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Azhais posted:Also, as a podcast update since that post is like two years old. Would you mind doing a rewrite of what people should be checking out? RCarr posted:Is CJ Anderson the favorite to be the Bronco's starter this year? I have the opportunity to keep him in the 18th. He was by far the most efficient RB in Denver last year, and Kubiak's system is ridiculously RB friendly. I would definitely keep him at that spot. Beer4TheBeerGod fucked around with this message at 00:27 on May 5, 2015 |
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VDay posted:Is there a database somewhere that isn't ESPN of last year's point totals in standard scoring? ESPN being down "for maintenance" is pretty annoying since I always just use that to see how guys did in my league's scoring. If you create a draft only MFL league you can tweak the scoring system to your heart's content and get historical data from the league page.
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# ¿ May 5, 2015 05:59 |
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This time last year we were talking about how SOS had the Cowboys being the biggest pushovers in the NFL.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 21:58 |
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Brady disappearing basically nukes all of New England's fantasy value.
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# ¿ May 11, 2015 13:39 |
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drizzle posted:Anyone want to take a quick look at my drops for my dynasty league? Need to drop 10. Are you in a league where kickers from Philly have some kind of magical bonus? No? Then drop your kicker and keep both Britt and Brown. Richardson has an ACL tear that will likely keep him down.
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# ¿ May 16, 2015 23:44 |
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Yes.
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# ¿ May 21, 2015 01:00 |
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Cervixalot posted:Any Dynasty / My Fantasy League gurus in the house? We use rosters of 24 and 2IR spots in both of my dynasty leagues and it works rather well. 30 would be a bit much IMO. Personally I hate kickers and see no benefit to using them, and even DSTs are pretty varied. One thing that might be fun is to use MFL's system of Team-based positions. So Team Defensive Linebacker, Team Defensive Lineman, Team Defensive Back, and Team Special Teams. I wouldn't know precisely how to score it, but it seems like it would be kind of cool to say you have the pass rush of the Texans, the defensive line of the Jets, and the secondary of the Seahawks. With special teams I might look at return yards. I dunno, just thinking out loud. So something like 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1FLX/1TLB/1TDL/1TDB/1TST. With 12 players maybe I would boost the roster size to 30 since my other leagues use 10 players. You can do both a slow and live draft in MFL. Maybe do a live draft for the free agents and the e-mail draft for rookies.
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# ¿ May 27, 2015 22:10 |
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axelord posted:Not sure if anyone here visits the Reddit Fantasy football Subreddit but some guy has a write up on Offensive Lines for this year: I was just about to post this. Awesome work.
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# ¿ May 30, 2015 17:52 |
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Azhais posted:I'm gonna continue posting to this thread because nobody else is: What worries me is what happens when Jordy Nelson goes away. That said Golden Tate is a good pickup and Jordan Matthews could really excel, so I would probably make the trade given your needs.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 22:01 |
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Sataere posted:I sort of disagree with this logic. Your top ten picks should be guys you think will be top five producers at their position. That is all that should matter. Yes you should obviously focus on studs, but the issue is risk. Failing to take risk into account is what leads to getting a massive bust. There are so many options in the early picks that I prefer to focus on safer choices with proven track records.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 16:35 |
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Ty1990 posted:Maybe I'm crazy but I've justified it in my own mind. I traded Alshon Jeffery (12th round keeper) for Adrian Peterson (1st round keeper). 12 team league. You Done hosed Up. "Alshon at a 12 is much better overall value" is precisely where you should have stopped. Keepers is entirely about value, just as drafting is all about maximizing your overall team performance. One player does not make a fantasy football team, and if you could have for example Antonio Brown and Alshon Jeffery as your WR1 and WR2 that would have been fantastic.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2015 14:00 |
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Metapod posted:Kenny Britt aka two games made him a superstar among fantasy players It only took Doug Martin one game.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2015 00:35 |
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Thelonius Van Funk posted:Am I being a dumbass for keeping two D/ST in my dynasty league? We have pretty large rosters (30 spots including IR) so the waiver is pretty bare and we've already had our rookie draft. Should I drop the texans or the cardinals and pick up Bobby Rainey/Jordan Todman/Allan Hurns/Boobie Dixon/Lance Dunbar/Marcedes Lewis? That's a large enough roster that holding on to defenses makes sense.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2015 12:46 |
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LmaoTheKid posted:Ride Lacy and Peterson to the championship IMO but I'm still a big believer in RB being the most consistent position in fantasy. You absolutely grab Lacy and laugh when you get to keep him for years to come.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 02:28 |
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I love nerdchat.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 04:07 |
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The takeaway I get from those values is that draft strategy and position are statistically insignificant.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 06:12 |
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:Fantasy Football 2015: that's a lot of words and numbers that end up meaning nothing Projections are notoriously terrible. 40% of the time you're wrong 100% of the time. IMO the benefit of projections lies within the aggregate. How much better is player A expected to be relative to player B? How many people really think this guy is a stud? Which position is deep and which position is scarce? Stuff like that is what helps me.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 16:51 |
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:Zero RB strat last year was not viable. I did a bunch of mocks going for a Graham/Gronk or a DT/Peyton strat and kept getting Toby Gerhart and Bishop Sankey as RB1/2 and I wasn't comfortable with that I actually drafted Graham and Gronk and ended up with Gerhart and Sankey as my RB1/2. Had I kept Bradshaw I would've ended up in the playoffs.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 02:53 |
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Enforka posted:However, I did think of another interesting tweak to the simulation I'd be interested in seeing: What if, the 0RB guy values his 3rd and 4th RBs more than he does his 3rd and 4th WR? The idea being that he loads up on RBs in the mid-rounds, hoping to hit a lotto ticket as RBs get injured or wash out. Maybe that would improve the results of the strategy? That's basically 0RB in a nutshell. The whole point behind the strategy is to capitalize on the light level of turnover in the RB position. If you're drafting high upside WR sleepers after you already have Demaryius Thomas and Calvin Johnson then your strategy is not very optimal IMO.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 16:49 |
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Papes posted:I disagree with the last part. Taking a few high upside flyers after grabbing studs at that position is a fine move. The point of the draft is to maximize the value of your team, not to have the best week to week lineup. If you already have studs at wr but you feel like the best pick at your slot is a high upside wr....take them. If you hit you will be very rich at a position and you will have valuable assets to make a trade if you are weak elsewhere. I get your point, but I also feel like drafting to trade never works out. I would much rather focus on bolstering up my weak spots than taking a flyer. In the end I'd rather have a flyer RB than a flyer WR if my need is RB. That's not to say you don't draft on value. Personally I ignore most strategies and just go PBA based on where I draft.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2015 18:01 |
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Spoeank posted:Can everyone in Cheating for Charity play for SLPC in wheez's honor this year? I think it would be a good gesture. Southern Poverty Law Center? I won't speak for anyone else but I will dedicate my team for them. Beer4TheBeerGod fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Jun 19, 2015 |
# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 06:13 |
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BeerSheets are coming.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 18:19 |
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Leperflesh posted:BeerSheets helped me win my league last year. I wasn't sure you were gonna do them again after that whole reddit debacle. Really happy you're still putting those together Beer! As hilarious as that was, I was never going to stop doing BeerSheets. Especially not for SA.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 19:13 |
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Sataere posted:BeerSheets helped me beat Beer in the C4C league. Hoisted by your own petard, eh Beer! (Whatever a petard is) Yeah I'll do the sheets for Reddit still. The gold thing was an April Fool's joke.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 21:38 |
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old dog child posted:Can I make a very specific request for a keeper league? I'll donate to your charity team if it's too much trouble. Sure, go for it. Shoot me a PM.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 02:29 |
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:As an outsider who doesn't give a poo poo about premium accounts or reddit in general it looks like they were actually trying to make a gold thing, saw the complete outrage (which they were ok with) and alienation of top contributors (now they have to backpedal) and are pulling the "gotcha! it was a joke all along. dance, puppets" defense No, it was a joke.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2015 17:03 |
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cheese posted:I've been doing mock drafts/draft simulators to get ready, and I feel like the one spot I'm struggling is once I get into that late RB2/RB3 range. The Latavius Murrays, the Blounts, Randles, Joique Bell, Bernard, etc. What are you guys looking for when taking those backs? Lets say you went WR/WR, got Alfred Morris with your 3rd pick and are looking at taking RB's with your next two picks. Do you want a player who is a reliable starter or the best back in a RBBC? Most of those guys all have huge red flags and I'm trying to figure out which red flags I'm ok with. It's pretty rough. There are a few players I'm high on, but for the most part that area is either huge risks (Ingram, Gore, Hyde, Murray), or rookies (Yeldon, Gordon, Gurley).
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2015 21:01 |
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Doppelganger posted:I'm seriously leaning towards not playing ANY fantasy football leagues this year. Just relax on sundays, don't worry about the Dolphins' WR depth, and enjoy my Saints. As a Redskins fan fantasy football is basically the only way I can enjoy Sundays.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2015 13:43 |
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Cheating For Charity 2015 Is Live! In the last two years SA fantasy football nerds have managed to raise $3496. Every dime of that money (I cover the fees) has gone to charity. In 2013 the money went towards a pair children's hospitals, and last year the winners were an academy for children with autism and a speech therapy college fund. This year I'm hoping to beat our previous record of $2460, and if anyone is interested in joining up the more the merrier. This is, by far, the most competitive league I have ever played in. The cause is good, the play is serious, and it's a lot of fun.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 01:56 |
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BeerSheets 2015-06-30
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 12:00 |
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Its Miller Time posted:Beersheets, it's really starting to feel like a new season. I like the E/S/P idea, I tend to forget how a player did last year only to realize I drafted someone who had 600 yards but everyone assumes will get 1200... I can do pretty much any roster format that's reasonable. The hard part is deciding what should be added to my "standard" sheets. What size league? What roster format? Stuff like that. Its Miller Time posted:Beersheets doesn't have to answer this, I'm sure it's come up before (I'm looking at 1PPR/1QB/2R/2R/1T/1F but this follows for most PPR) Elite WRs are almost always undervalued in PPR because how many points they score compared to the replacement tier guys. They're also generally more reliable sources of points because stud WRs (especially with PPR) have a higher floor. Gronk's value is nuts this year. Look at his standard deviation. People have no idea WTF to do about him. In a 12 team ESPN league it means the top 4 QBs, top 8 RBs, top 8 WRs, top 4 TEs. I might change it around to something else if it's confusing.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 22:02 |
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Leperflesh posted:What's E/S/P? I feel like I should remember this, but I don't. Not sure how, I just added it this year. Also everything is explained in the link. E/S/P: This is how the player did last year. E stands for Elite, and represents the number of games the player put up points worthy of the top 1/3 of starter-worthy players in his position (QB4 or better in a 12 team 1QB league). S stands for Starter, and represents the number of times the player put up points worthy of a starter (QB12 or better in a 12 team 1QB league). P stands for played; the number of weeks the player actually played assuming a 16 week season. Beer4TheBeerGod fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jun 30, 2015 |
# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 23:27 |
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I'm working on it, and I think I might. Especially if the Charity League decides to go with IDP. So join the charity league and vote for it.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 02:31 |
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Its Miller Time posted:Beer - The concept is clear, it's just tricky to word. I'd just add an (e.g.,), people will get what you mean immediately then. I'd use at least 2 examples, showing how the number is multiplied by the number of positions and showing which way you round in 8, 14 and 16 team leagues not evenly divisible by 3. Sounds good.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 18:30 |
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Any new recommendations on podcasts?
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2015 22:37 |
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I pay for 4for4, PFF, Rotoviz, Gridiron Experts, Dynasty League Football, and I used to pay for FBG. I do it for the BeerSheet projections. If FBG puts the projections behind a Paywall I will probably pay again. If I was just doing it for myself I would probably focus on sites like Rotoviz.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 14:51 |
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Speaking of paying for data, this week's BeerSheets are up.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 01:12 |