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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:every yospos competition is a beta test
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# ? May 8, 2015 04:52 |
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kwinkles posted:lol @ commenting your bit banging lol indeed
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# ? May 8, 2015 05:16 |
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pram posted:shagger is a transparent contrarian troll
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# ? May 8, 2015 05:30 |
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Bloody posted:lol indeed actually i put lots of comments. what version of gvim are you using that it can't handle verilog w/comments? i feel like my gvim is old as balls because it is whatever the work shell has, with a slate theme.
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# ? May 8, 2015 05:39 |
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all i do at work is verilog, system verilog, vhdl, c and perl. my gvim highlights all of those pretty ok. system verilog doesnt get all the keywords highlighted, but it is "ok".
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# ? May 8, 2015 05:41 |
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are you guys actually seriously using nano? why not go full sperg and just use ed
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# ? May 8, 2015 10:50 |
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horse mans posted:are you guys actually seriously using nano? why not go full sperg and just use ed or ee also the votes are in, 2x as many ppl use vi as the second choic, op's mom, who i hear is quite randy
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# ? May 8, 2015 10:55 |
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according to the movie, mark zuckerberg used emacs
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# ? May 8, 2015 15:36 |
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pram posted:sublime is epic ownage
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# ? May 8, 2015 15:37 |
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narc fuckersperg
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# ? May 8, 2015 19:16 |
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kwinkles posted:actually i put lots of comments. what version of gvim are you using that it can't handle verilog w/comments? i feel like my gvim is old as balls because it is whatever the work shell has, with a slate theme. 7.4.1 or something like that
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# ? May 8, 2015 19:44 |
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just spent a while watching a coworker use emacs. it looked loving awful.
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# ? May 8, 2015 19:45 |
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like. emacs is modeless? does it have no motions? wtf is that trash?
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# ? May 8, 2015 19:45 |
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no autocomplete? why??
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# ? May 8, 2015 19:46 |
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because its 30 year old garbage for retards
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# ? May 8, 2015 20:25 |
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so is vim but it has those extremely basic features
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# ? May 8, 2015 20:32 |
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i might have to start using vim soon. how do i get good with it? i know how to type and quit.
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# ? May 8, 2015 20:46 |
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http://vim-adventures.com/
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# ? May 8, 2015 20:47 |
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im pagancow
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# ? May 8, 2015 22:15 |
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lol i take as many shits as i can during the day just to escape the monotony, do you really think im going to learn how to shave off a couple of seconds by using some wicked emacs combos for ultra fast delivery of code
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# ? May 8, 2015 22:19 |
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oh whoops w/e
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# ? May 8, 2015 22:32 |
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Bloody posted:so is vim but it has those extremely basic features lol vim does not have autocomplete
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# ? May 8, 2015 22:50 |
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vim has autocomplete plus really good plugins to make it super awesome
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# ? May 8, 2015 23:34 |
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whats the name of the plugin that makes it usable?
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# ? May 8, 2015 23:39 |
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youcompleteme is loving ownage but a little touchy especially on windows
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# ? May 8, 2015 23:41 |
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if vim doesn't suit your needs your needs suck and should be ignored
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# ? May 8, 2015 23:44 |
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Bloody posted:vim has autocomplete plus really good plugins to make it super awesome yeah but we're talking built in poo poo. emacs has way better autocomplete plugins than vim does because emacs was designed to be extensible while vim is barely extensible.
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:32 |
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there's no loving way vim has meaningful built in autocomplete because vim doesn't have any builtin concept of a project so how the hell would it know what to autocomplete against??
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:34 |
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oh wait. it's because vim users have never worked on a project larger than a single file so in the mind of a vim user, stdlib autocomplete is autocompletion. you dont need autocomplete to help you remember standard lib stuff. you need autocomplete to help you with the insane poo poo your coworkers have written.
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:37 |
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l love vim and i tried really hard to make it work for programming inside an actual codebase but if your codebase is larger than 100 files vim is going to be really frustrating
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:38 |
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C-x C-o, C-n/C-p
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# ? May 9, 2015 00:38 |
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:oh wait. it's because vim users have never worked on a project larger than a single file so in the mind of a vim user, stdlib autocomplete is autocompletion. look at this, look at how far youve come. last year you were a colorist on MegaMansion Gardens of the RIch and Armenian, and now you're working ENterprise Linux and belittling people based on their choice of text editor. fantastic. amazing. impressive. chumpchouse is my idol. TOTAL SINCERITY
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# ? May 9, 2015 08:26 |
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lol
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# ? May 9, 2015 09:15 |
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:lol vim does not have autocomplete what is ctrl-n do you even use more than one buffer vim is overrated garbage that you shouldn't invest your precious life time to learn it but lol at chumpchous treating it like it's notepad on the terminal
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# ? May 9, 2015 10:06 |
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Smythe posted:look at this, look at how far youve come. last year you were a colorist on MegaMansion Gardens of the RIch and Armenian, and now you're working ENterprise Linux and belittling people based on their choice of text editor. fantastic. amazing. impressive. chumpchouse is my idol. TOTAL SINCERITY same
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# ? May 9, 2015 10:07 |
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Bloody posted:just spent a while watching a coworker use emacs. it looked loving awful. i watched one guy use a complex piece of software for five minutes and it didn't immediately live up to my exacting expectations Bloody posted:no autocomplete? why?? emacs has autocomplete for literally every single kind of data in its core: it can autocomplete emacs lisp function names and variable names, ssh hosts, files, directories, help functions, color themes, recently used commands, the clipboard, in-code search results, fonts, and so on, and is insanely easy to extend for any language you could possibly need: and even command line arguments but sure, keep acting like you know anything about anything
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# ? May 9, 2015 10:25 |
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trying to explain emacs to a vim user is like the sphere in flatland trying to explain 3 dimensions to a triangle; it's simply beyond their comprehension
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# ? May 9, 2015 10:26 |
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this are some p. dank pix mr horse mans, but seem a bit misdirected... nobody itt has said that they think that vim is a good editor for a giant project it is just a practical, elegant editor for small-to-medium projects, or editing configuration files. the only reason to use it is if you are a giant sperglord (me), or if you are dealing with configuration, scripting, etc on a bunch of different *nix machines; vi/m is the only thing guaranteed to be on any posix-compliant machine. for this, it is worth learning the very basics. most people hate it because it is confusing and does not follow the pattern of any known editor (or really anything for that matter, welcome to the loonix world). if you need something a little more heavy duty or just absolutely loving have to have comic sans as ur font when you are editing, the emacs might be the right choice. emacs is a giant, bloated corpse of an editor, but on the flip side, allows one to deal with pretty much any programming, scripting, etc need right out of the box. the problem seems to be that in the last few years, people have followed the emacs pipe dream and added exponentialy more "features" without improving functionality. but then again hm, i can see why u use it if you spent so much time tricking it out.
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# ? May 9, 2015 15:09 |
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du -hast posted:this are some p. dank pix mr horse mans, but seem a bit misdirected... nobody itt has said that they think that vim is a good editor for a giant project you're absolutely right, and in a lot of places it can afford to get so much better. the new package management system and being able to rely on good modern core libraries like dash, helm, etc, means that functionally all the new shiny stuff is well maintained and easy to improve and understand, and is more likely to make it into core (which happens more often than most people think) it's the ent of software: it's taken 40 years to get to this point, and changes necessarily have to be slow and incremental because of the tens of millions of lines of elisp that sit on top of it all. you'll notice in the emacs thread in coc that we bandy about spacemacs, prelude, and all these emacs starter packs, because the default out of the box experience is garbage, and we all know it
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get with the times
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