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Holy poo poo, this book is off to an incredible start.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 14:37 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:09 |
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PelvicNerve posted:So, are we assuming Battleworld was Ultimate Reed's idea? The book beginning and ending with Doom is making me think Battleworld will be his thing and Reed/Maker/Survivors end up there. I don't think Ultimate Reed cares enough about other universes to try to save any of them. Cyclops owned. Punisher owned. Susan dying pretty much ruined my day/week/year.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 15:00 |
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Little Mac posted:Well that was intense. Would have made a better final issue of Avengers for sure. A super horribly depressing ending but still.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 16:17 |
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Codependent Poster posted:I wonder if Phoenix-Cyclops will be the new status quo after Secret Wars. Keep the young Scott around as Cyclops, and rename the old Scott as Phoenix. I just love him just floating in riding a loving sentinel while everyone is killing everyone esle doing his Phoenix thing while monologing to himself. Phoenix Cyclops is the Best Cyclops.
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 17:37 |
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With everything dead and nothing more to lose, I'm hyped as all hell for T'Challa and Reed to find out that Namor is alive (and was helping the other side)
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# ¿ May 6, 2015 17:58 |
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Isn't Secret Wars #2 supposed to be a mega sized book? Because I really can't loving wait.
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 04:45 |
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edit: misread
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 16:48 |
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Wachter posted:Franklin, Valeria, Dragon Man, and the other kids sacrifice their corporeal forms to become the cosmic abstract entities of the new universe - a Foundation for the Future, if you will. This is Hickman we're talking about please include Doom in your theories.
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 19:00 |
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Doom is going to save everyone then gloat over Richard's dead family. Richards (no longer having a family) goes insane like every other Richards and proceeds to recreate the multiverse just to piss off Doom.
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# ¿ May 7, 2015 21:42 |
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Hickman can do nihilistic but then you have books like Fantastic Four #604 that are just a clear triumph of life and hope and good and such an amazing end to a years long buildup that I know that once Secret Wars end we're going to have this wonderful Marvel Universe to dive in and explore.
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# ¿ May 9, 2015 01:02 |
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SirDan3k posted:He is a very "Darkest before the Dawn" writer. HIs closing letter for his Fantastic Four run was also great
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# ¿ May 9, 2015 01:10 |
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Len posted:I wonder just how long he's been planning all of this. Since his Ultimates run? Maybe back with Fantastic Four? His incursion/secret wars ideas were once one single concept for a Secret Wars mini pitch he gave Marvel way back when (before he had started his F4 run). He retooled it when he was given Avengers/NA and turned it into what we have today.
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# ¿ May 10, 2015 00:21 |
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SynthOrange posted:Wow sounds like Secret Wars is more of a mercy killing for Ultimates. Ultimate universe was pretty much Ultimate Spider-Man and oh hey there's also this other stuff happening every now and then.
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# ¿ May 10, 2015 04:18 |
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I always felt the Ultimate Universe could have been a digital playground for up and coming artists/writers where they could be creative with crazy ideas and have Bendis kinda oversee poo poo since he was the only one that actually gave a poo poo about part of it. Instead they just killed everyone, destroyed everything, and well now it's dead along with everything else so it doesn't really matter. I still think Agent of Shields should have done an incursion episode. Death of the multiverse includes the cinematic universe
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# ¿ May 10, 2015 04:22 |
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hope and vaseline posted:I can't tell if you're joking or not He's not. Also Ben Grimm kills her. (then marries her daughter)
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# ¿ May 10, 2015 19:59 |
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site posted:I'm glad you guys are here to provide synopsis because I think if I read these myself I'd quit. Well turns out the reason Ultimate Reed goes evil is because Ultimate Kang (actually Sue Storm from the future) tells him bad things are coming (Age of Ultron's time fuckery aka Galactus) so he needs to step up and save the world, collect the infinity gauntlets, and stop it all from happening. Of course, the way to go about it is destroying part of Europe, killing the President (and congress) and killing almost everyone in the process but by stopping him poo poo he was trying to prevent happens and Kang runs aways. Then we get the wonderful (poo poo) known as Cataclysm where Kitty Pride punches Galactus in the face.
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# ¿ May 10, 2015 21:06 |
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Deadpool posted:No, issues three and four will be in June. Issue five in July. Alonso has said the issues will be spaced farther apart the deeper into the event it goes. This is like super bullshit and I hate everything.
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# ¿ May 11, 2015 14:23 |
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Reed goes evil in the Ultimate Enemy, Ultimate Mystery and Ultimate Doom trilogy. Hickman's run which brings him back is Ultimate Comics Ultimates Vol something. After that he passes the torch to someone else (Spencer?) and the book goes to poo poo on the Divided we Fall arc. That in between arc I believe begins the hunt for Infinity Gems and then on UCU#25 Kang shows up, frees Reed and Hulk and the infinity arc begins proper. The end of that arc coincides with the end of Age of Ultron which is what brings Galactus to the Ultimate Universe. From there we get the Hunger and Cataclysm minis. Cataclysm was a bit ago and basically killed the Ultimates. The book relaunched as all new Ultimates with a teenage group which should have been amazing but ended with some atrocious art. Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 00:45 on May 12, 2015 |
# ¿ May 12, 2015 00:38 |
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Dracorion posted:They were then disappointed to find out Cannonball and Sunspot are not a gay couple. I was too. But we got casino night out of it.
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# ¿ May 12, 2015 04:28 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:Bendis might've also done some horrible "retcon" as well. That's the only kind of retcon he does. Comixology needs to bump up its release schedule from 9am EST to like 6am. Wednesday mornings waiting for comics is bullshit.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 13:45 |
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Four pages in and I can tell that this event is 100% tailored just for me.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 14:28 |
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Sheriff of Agamotto is the best loving title.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 15:43 |
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gfanikf posted:I love that it's a bizarre mix of GoT influences and Warhammer 40K. That's Franklin's Galactus, Doom probably has it on a lease.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 15:59 |
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Gatts posted:So is it safe to assume Sue Valeria and Franklin got there first and the Rafts crash landed? Meaning our 616 heroes are gonna have to get through Battleworld to Doom? And does this mean Doom did beat the Beyonders or that they saw fit to give him power? I don't think the Beyonders were looking for anything past blowing everything up. Which they did. I bet they show up at the end when they reboot everything and go "eh, whatever". Doom's power came from either MM (absent so far) or surviving the multiverse explosion he caused. He's been a god before and he's created a universe in the past. I do like this new approach.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 17:33 |
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Jiro posted:Am I the only one that keeps on laughing at how Ultimate James Braddock keeps getting poo poo on? You're not, friend. Dude can't catch a break.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 19:22 |
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Codependent Poster posted:You mean a world created by Doom ruled by Doom has people worshipping him as a God? Well the previous universe Doom created was a bit too much like Doom and rebelled. I I think it's why he's just setting up base rules and letting each area govern itself. Doom is good and he saved life. I'm sure Doom 100% is aware of what's going on but the rest of them seem to have been wiped of pre-incursion knowledge. I wonder if Stephen got wiped too or if he's also rolling with Doom in keeping this world together.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 20:25 |
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Jiro posted:Or if he even could control creating Battleworld. Why the gently caress would you even have a zone specifically for Ultron AIs, Marvel Zombies, and the goddamn Annihilation Wave, when you're whole thing is to remake a world under your complete control. Unless he keeps those around in order to periodically invade and keep everyone else in line which means he keeps in contact with them. Anyone else notice that Susan was back in her Future Foundation uniform as was Doom being in white, when he was made stupid. I don't think Doom had direct control of how Battleworld was formed. He (apparently) survived the multiverse explosion he caused and came to be on a world made of remnants of other universes. I think him and Strange are the ONLY members of the 616 universe we see in this issue. Everyone else is the scattered remains of dead universes brought to life to Doom by whatever means he had left to either forge and rekindle the shattered earths into one. Based on what happened with the Cabal's raft, Doom is taking great measures to keep the birth of this world a mystery.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 20:47 |
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Most definitely. Phoenix Cyclops is going to fine Sinister and go all extinction on him. Again.
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# ¿ May 13, 2015 20:56 |
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Thurm posted:Hickman talks to CBR about Secret Wars #2. Happy Noodle Boy posted:I think him and Strange are the ONLY members of the 616 universe we see in this issue. Like I said, this poo poo is being tailored just for me
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 02:03 |
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Lord Krangdar posted:I'm fairly new to Marvel, could someone summarize the normal relationship between Doom and Valeria (and maybe Sue)? Valeria's initial backstory is stupidly complicated so I'll skip it to only what's relevant. - Susan has complications giving birth and almost died. Reed is I forget where so it ends up with Doom saving the day. Valeria is born and all Doom asks is to name her. He becomes her godfather. Richards is super mad at this and I still hold it as Doom's greatest triumph. - Doom is lobotomized, loses his magic power. Passes Latveria to his son Kristoff and basically retires from everything. - The events of Hickman's F4 cover what happens next but basically Valeria, Franklin, and Nathaniel Richards (Reed's dad) from the future try to start shaping the past so that bad things don't happen. - One of these changes is they need to heal Doom . Present Valeria is given this task. - Doom is healed, the events of Hickman's FF occur. Doom sacrifices himself holding off mad Celestials and is left in between universes. He finds an infinity gauntlet from a dead universe, gives birth to it again in his image, the universe turns on him and is ultimately rescued by future Valeria, Nathaniel, and Reed. That's the end of Hickman's run and we move on Fraction's Run - The F4 are sick from something. Reed decides to do a field trip through space/time under the guise of exploring and learning while secretly trying to find the cure. in the meantime, the replacement FF are dealing with Doom who's aligning with Kahn and Annhilus and being a dick. - A lot of poo poo happens but the short version of it is that Reed basically keeps too many secrets including the fact that someone Valeria meets along the way dies and he doesn't tell her. Valeria gets mad at this and ultimately decides that she needs time apart from the family so she goes to live with uncle Doom. She's been there since guiding Doom to fix the world. If the people love you, they won't mind you taking over the world. They fight Loki, have ice cream, and are generally an awesome pair. She builds Val-bots
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 02:20 |
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Lord Krangdar posted:Thanks. There isn't any bad blood left at this point, I think. Not over Val, anyways. Doom and Richards are "even" after everything that happened in Hickman's run. Val's the one that decided to leave and Richards/Susan know exactly why. gfanikf posted:Which issue was that? Fantastic Four (2014-2015) Annual #1
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 02:58 |
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I haven't decided what others in getting. I'll probably stay away from anything spider man and check out the infinity gauntlet one.
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 15:46 |
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Diggie posted:What is a key seller? Some physical issues come with a free digital key which in guessing there's a resale market for them?
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 22:46 |
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twistedmentat posted:I just realized, thats the Power Pack kids, who got their powers from a Wizard of BRB's race didn't they? I would be 100% on board with Valeria saving the day and beating Doom. I would also be 100% on board with seeing Franklin and Galactus take on the Cabal.
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# ¿ May 15, 2015 16:52 |
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Alucard Nacirema posted:Speaking of FF didn't one of the Alternative reeds survive that run and is still at large? Some reeds managed to escape the council but the 4 that came to 616 are all dead. 1. Xavier looking Reed got killed by Inhumans right off the bat. 2&3. Killed by Ronan in order to revive the Supreme Intelligence. 4. Infinity Gauntlet Reed uses the ultimate nullifier against the Mad Celestials, dies doing so
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# ¿ May 15, 2015 20:30 |
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Each issue Star Lord will date or be married to a different Kitty and he won't know. It'll be like Multiplicity in Space.
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# ¿ May 16, 2015 03:02 |
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I'm reading East of West in trades (when they go on sale on comixology) and yeah that book is really good. Can't wait for Vol. 4.
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# ¿ May 16, 2015 04:14 |
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Aphrodite posted:So many tie-ins, so impatient to find out which are worth buying. Same here. There's way too much poo poo going on for me to go blind and buy a ton of poo poo. (especially I went crazy on the IDW sale)
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# ¿ May 20, 2015 14:37 |
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Is Ultimate End poo poo? That's really the only one I think I care about.
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# ¿ May 20, 2015 15:32 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:09 |
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The the Ultimate Universe ends as it lived: a confusing mess where artists draw whatever the gently caress they want.
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