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Why bother trying to ascribe a political status to imageboards where anyone can post anonymously? Hell, I don't even do it here where everyone's got a name.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:these places can serve as platforms to organize political speech and action, as well as harboring a certain branch of thought. as much as any internet community may describe itself as a place where free speech is valued, actually supporting free speech requires moderation and maintenance lest unpopular minority views be drowned out - one way something awful accomplishes this is by gating certain opinions into subforums. GIP was created partially because of long, tedious, angry flamewars in d&d between anti- and pro- iraq war opinions It's interesting to hear the point of "Free speech requires moderation so that the less popular viewpoints can have their time to shine." The 4chan view of free speech, from what I've seen, seems to be "Free speech needs to be unmoderated so that no one can dictate the flow of it." I think both points have some merit, to an extent. If a mob mentality forms up, it can be very hard to get your opinion out without getting shouted down. Yet at the same time, if you've got someone who can flat-out remove anyone who might disagree with his or her opinions, that can be just as toxic. Anyway, I think 4chan already does what you have said to an extent. /lgbt/ was made after the 4chan gay community complained about there being no where to really talk about that stuff outside of maybe /soc/ and /pol/, for example.
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May 14, 2015 23:31
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Venom Snake posted:If you see a traditional game/warhammer40k/dwarf fortress meme there is a 99% chance it came from /tg/, similarly if you see a meme about something television or movie related it probably came from /tv/. I wish /tg/ would stop making Quest threads. They aren't good.
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May 15, 2015 00:55
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The proletariat has seized the memes of production.
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May 15, 2015 01:06
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This site full of ironic racism makes me mad because it isn't my preferred website. I, as a proud Goon, have never allowed anything of that sort on this proud comedy forum. Why, if there were some sort of forum dedicated to making those jokes, I would just be aghast.
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May 15, 2015 03:37
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4chan, much like SA, is full of people who gripe and bitch constantly about the site but continue to show up anyway. Anyway, the place is more politically varied than you'd expect, much like how we're more politically varied than the "SJW-run Hellhole" stereotype that 4chan and some subreddits ascribe to SA.
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May 15, 2015 04:10
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Popular Thug Drink posted:this could be an interesting discussion about how internet communities police themselves if people would stop getting personally offended when 4chan's honor is questioned I just think people here exaggerate a lot about sites they don't post on. Not really mad, though.
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May 15, 2015 04:26
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Popular Thug Drink posted:ok, thanks for clarifying that you personally are experiencing no negative emotions because of this thread. there are however some people who are provoked enough by this thread to testily register their dislike for the argument, which itself is indicative of a defensive mindset - and this reaction is germane to the topic that anonymous boards do perhaps serve as an anti-hugbox and a launchpad for aggressive and anti-social speech It's a pretty interesting topic. I've noticed that posters on 4chan get really testy when someone breaks anonymity in some way. People who use tripcodes to give themselves a name are disliked, announcing you're a girl or a minority of some kind when it's not relevant is met with derision, and so on. It does bring a sense of informality and equality that not many sites have when everything is going pretty well (no one is trolling and trying to piss certain groups off); your personal social status, whether you're well-off or poor, male or female, majority or minority, or whatever does not matter, only what you post. Granted, it falls apart once any sort of politics is mentioned, but it's pretty neat to post on even footing with others. No need for putting on a facade and trying to act like someone you aren't.
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May 15, 2015 05:00
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Yeah, it's what I said. Bringing up anything political like race relations, gender, etc. breaks the illusion because, obviously, not everybody fits in the typical 4chan poster archetype. Still, it's pretty nice for discussion of unimportant poo poo like movies, TV, games, and so on. I do wonder what would alleviate that problem without flat-out removing anonymity altogether. SunAndSpring fucked around with this message at 05:15 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 05:10
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Maybe I'm not explaining my position well. I don't think it's right or good that you can't just off-handedly mention "I'm a lady" or something and not get poo poo for it on 4chan. I just think that it's the closest you can get to real equal footing currently. Also, I'm not sure that non-anonymous discussion does much better at preventing a majority opinion from taking hold. While 4chan users are really naive in thinking that anoymity solves that problem when all it does is make dismissing a "wrong opinion" impersonal, it's a tricky proposition to prevent cliques, posses, and mobs from forming up anywhere.
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To be honest, I'm beginning to think even the whole "equal footing" thing I was talking about doesn't really work. People are still jockeying for the attention and adulation you get for saying "right" opinions there, it's just usually tied to one thread than an entire posting history. Maybe I've just got an idealized concept of what I want anonymous posting to be.
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