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Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
People are going to be offended if they are blindsided by things like nudity. Rightfully so, even if they indulge in it elsewhere. It's a matter of setting, similar to the CC rules regarding pornography vs nudes. I think the easiest rule to follow is maintain the same level of discretion that you start with.

The mistake would be establishing one setting and gaining a followership, then taking the same group of people next door to the strip club, even if it's only for a few minutes.

If you have an adult storyline and want to indulge willing viewers in pornography, it's time for a separate episode hosted in a pornographic setting. At the least, an NSFW disclaimer. It is probably a smart move to also keep that sequence independent of the story.

Another nuance I'm surprised people fail to grasp is the artist's choice to include things in the frame. The difference between pornography and mainstream for a sex scene is training the camera on the actors' faces versus close-up shots of cock and balls. It's the same act, and the difference is how you convey it and the level of detail.

I recall a tip from the book How to Draw Manga that explained a girl in panties becomes obscene when you draw too much detail into the outlines of the labia. That's a pretty good example of how you can go from cute to lewd in the same drawing, very quickly. An artist should have a sense of what they deliver and what boundaries their readers expect them to maintain.

If you're lucky, you might get readers who are invested enough to become upset about things happening to a character. Those types might make a case against something like nudity instead of admitting their attachment to their waifu. But if you were clear about the graphic nature of your artwork from the beginning, and especially if the website is completely appropriate to it, your consistency will support itself.

As for the subject matter I don't think anything should be off-limits. Just be consistent.

This vlog reminded me of this discussion. A breakdown of Louis CK's child molester joke on SNL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOO1AX7_jXw

Anagram of GINGER fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jul 24, 2015

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Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
What does the Lassie example involve? Do you mean Lassie's death?

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I can't circlejerk you unless I know what you want me to say, brother.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Scribblehatch, don't worry about it. If people are upset it's their problem.

Answers tend to be more relevant to you if you can provide some background.

If there's any frustration it might be due to such a broad prompt that requires parsing a lot of experiences into written English (to answer thoroughly).

I mean, this was basically a yes or no question posed to people who are willing and able to share their insight with you.

Scribblehatch posted:

Any of you guys ever dealt with precensorship before?

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I thought the chapter break images you posted were both great, btw.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Until recently I was hung up on a workflow that would allow me to finish segments of a story before my art matured noticeably. I found a solution in 3D modelling. Basically, take a model and a scene and work it over in Painter to make it look like a painting rather than a 3D scene.

Before that, my art was improving too fast. Took about two years of a full-time load of art classes.

Scribblehatch, I had an unexpected bit of feedback on one of my stories recently. It was that the plot was "very American." I tried to avoid writing Mary Sues, but apparently the outcome was still too perfect. That particular story takes place in a world where players are used to winning, though, so I'm going to keep it. But if it was an original fiction, I would have to say the feedback was right.

Sometimes it's more fun if a character dies or loses. Do the thing you can't bring yourself to do, be a jerk sometimes.

Anagram of GINGER fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jul 28, 2015

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

sweeperbravo posted:

I'm extremely confused by this sentence

Some artists have found a look or technique they like, and can reproduce them. But that hasn't happened for me. Yet. One of my desired outcomes for a formal art education was the ability to produce my stories. During those art classes, my art constantly changed.

I wanted consistency in my artistic style so a reader could follow a chunk of the story without being distracted by a visual style that changed page by page. Not for the life of the story, but at least a chapter. My art changed so much that by the time I finished a week's work, the next page would look different.

If I wanted a consistent look throughout a chapter, it would require processing all of the pages in sequence at each step. Ideally, you can push out one page at a time after storyboarding, refining, and polishing it. For the sake of consistency, I would have needed to storyboard at least a chapter all the way through, then refine it all the way through, then polish all the way through.

It was a problem caused by my skills that were changing week to week, and I wanted it to be the best work I could manage.

I solved it with 3D modelling. Texture a model or environment once, then pose everything like barbie dolls (or GI Joes) and go over it all with a brush to make it look like a painting.

You could do the same thing with Source Film Maker, or DAZ Poser, but I don't use those programs and they wouldn't suit my needs anyway. Those are also great ways to get written off as a hack and dismissed for the look. I work in the more industry-standard type programs like Maya and Zbrush, and some lesser-known ones. So. Even though 3D modelling is a tool that can help you achieve consistency, I still needed more experience and education in those tools to reach the look I see in my mind.

I could have drawn everything page by page, but I dislike the idea of spending hours (upon hours) on a static image. In fact I despise it.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I love drawing. I'm just not the person who likes doodling on something for hours and hours when all I have to show for it is one drawing.

I want to improve very much, I didn't say otherwise. Improvement is very much a goal.

I started drawing when I was 8. I'm 32 now. I only recently (two years ago) decided to take art seriously. I've never been happier.

Here's an example of the efficiency I'm referring to. I spent easily 12 hours turning this image



into this image



I have other similar drawings. I could repeat that process and slave away on each and every frame, and it would look fantastic. But the duplication of effort bothered me. I would be drawing a character over and over, so instead of that, I decided to build the model myself, and texture it... so that producing an image with that character in the future was a matter of placing the scene and grabbing a render, then working over it in Corel Painter.

I'm in the middle of those classes right now, so I don't have a completed textured model to show. But the efficiency is apparent in this example of an upscaling I did using a Diablo 3 model. This was ten minutes of effort.



Other random modelling things I've done



That screengrab became this image in Corel Painter after another, what, 20 minutes. When I have the model textured (which includes color), Corel Painter will handle that for me, too.



Build up an environment and character assets initially, and you can crank out episodes of a comic very quickly, and they'll look fantastic, too. I was looking for that consistency and efficiency, I just didn't know it.

I'd like to eventually animate short films. Drawings are turning out to be a pleasant byproduct.

Anagram of GINGER fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jul 28, 2015

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Wow. I'm pretty sure I just won this thread.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I claim full credit for all this win

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Fangz posted:

(what's the opposite of a circle-jerk?)

bukkake.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Kruxy posted:

What's the learning curve on a wacom? Like how long does it take before you don't feel like a stupid scrawling baby with poo poo motor skills.

I have this super old second-hand Intuos GD wacom, and while it works just fine, it's frustrating as hell to actually draw on cause my hand doesn't go where I want it to go. I can rough out body forms just fine, but the moment I start inking, I can't follow the lines that are there.

While I could do everything in traditional media with pencils and inking and be much happier with the result, I don't have any way to scan in 14x17 inch bristol board and everyone wants digital anyway.

How long did it take before you all felt comfortable drawing on a tablet.

One thing you can do is sketch with paper and pencil then scan it into your drawing program. Drafting something from a blank digital canvas is a little on the steep side of the learning curve. By using the paper -> scan method, you don't have to worry about skewing the base of a drawing, and can slowly get used to the tablet / hand-eye coordination.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I make gross edits to a drawing that I couldn't / wouldn't do on paper. It's a useful step.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
That and hey, it's just your style.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Squidster posted:

Anyone have any experience ordering custom plushies? Any idea where to even start with that? My work is curious about ordering plushies of a small animal character.

This weekend was also a momentous weekend for us, in that we finally broke even on our first book! We've spent $4,509.91 and earned $4,769.54. We're saving up the profits to do reprints later in the year, especially if we win the Gene Day award.

Book 2 is on it's way, but isn't there yet - we've spent $16,599.75 and made $15,987.18. Like, my mind can't quite wrap itself around that money, but the numbers don't lie. We spent 2 and a half grand on conventions alone.

Book 3? Book 3's gonna be pricey.

I'll ask my mother in the morning. She is a fashion designer and I recall a set of four small stuffed animals that she designed. I can ask her about the business side of that process. Her involvement was designing the animals and making the patterns for the fabric, which along with one-off completed samples, were sent ~somewhere~ to be mass-produced. They took a bit of work, so I think depending on what you're looking for, it could be a bit of money. One significant factor is whether you want them stuffed taut or loose like beanbags. If they're more of a bag-style, the cost will probably be lower than what my mother made, which were basically perfectly-tailored 3D forms that sat or stood on their own.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
That's a cute mouse.

I have mixed news.

The fortunate news is I've been staying with my parents for about a month, to take a break from school and go back to work for a bit. I was tired of being a broke-rear end student and I want to build up a bankroll before finishing out two more years.

My mother was awake. She has the concept drawing and a retail copy of a beanbag-style animal she designed. This was sold at Toys R Us.





The demotivational news is she was very confused why someone would endeavor to produce something like this in a quantity fewer than 1,000. She said if you want to make a profit on any quantity, you have to produce it in China.

She also had some suggestions that are basically thinking outside the box. She suggests if you're trying to provide something to remind your customers of your product, you might want to consider accessory-type things that have some type of function. It could have a calendar on it, or a voice memo recorder inside it. Not necessarily a stuffed animal.

That was before seeing the images of the character you posted, which I showed her in the middle of writing this post. She said she'd buy whatever you make just to have it, of a character that is so cute. She says the scarf is cute too.

Materials-wise, she suggests something in rubber. "That's something you want to produce in rubber. The ears and the mouth, how would you make that in fabric. You want the ears open like that on the final product."

Other things she suggested were hair pins with the mouse's head on them, Jack-In-The-Box style antenna balls (or something like it), pencil toppers a la pencil trolls, iPhone covers with him on the back (cheap to produce/ have printed), stress balls.

...Clothing, or a hat with big floppy ears (she loved the ears).

She also pointed at the second image and asked, "does he live?"

Anagram of GINGER fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Sep 29, 2015

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Alibaba.com

You can write up a description of the thing you want produced, and include a render with dimensions. Companies will contact you with a bid for the production. I had some electronics made this way, and the quote they provide includes the cost of molds or tooling that have to be made first. I'm sure the people who contact you (manufacturer representatives) will have suggestions and questions regarding the specific materials.

I could see them wanting a physical original before starting.

Your quote will probably be split between a deposit and the remaining balance due on job completion. They'll send you pictures and proof that everything works as desired. Turnaround will be unexpectedly fast, price will probably be cheap.

They might ask you to wire the payments to odd bank accounts, but that's just due to taxes and value limits they have for wire transfers in China. What I'm saying is it will feel sketch as hell, so be brave and trust their alibaba rating.

I received samples, too, before wiring the outstanding balance on the quotes. Two orders for different items, different companies, and they handled it the same way. Deposit > sample arrived > I approved > they started the order > sent me pictures of the finished quantity > I wired the remaining balance > received everything in custom plastic packaging trays.

Alibaba.com can help you make every one of these happen. It's the gateway site to the place where everything is made, and you don't have to be some huge company to do business. I'll bet you could even find a manufacturer that could put these inside snowglobes.

About the hats, have you seen this style hat? The ends of the ears have paws underneath, and you can put your hands in and go 'rawr.' Or 'meow' or whatever sound mice make. Doesn't have to be fur all the way down, it could be arms with mouse hands.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2013-New-Cool-Style-Faux-Fur-Cute-Animal-Ears-Hat-Gloves-Mittens-Scarf-Hood-Paws-Husky/1158234724.html

Anagram of GINGER fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Sep 29, 2015

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Glad to help! If it's iPhone covers, that's probably one of the easiest things to make right now. Whether it's a print on the back, or a custom mold with a mouse outline of some sort.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
There is a plugin that changes the address of the login page. Not sure the name, I opted not to use it for the time being.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

They must know your email address or username in order for Wordpress to know which account to lock out, so change it to something other than "administrator."

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Why wouldn't they repeatedly kickstart themselves?

Also, what was the unit price?

I have no interest in producing any plushies, I'm just curious.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Retro Ghost posted:

Hey guys!! You were all so supportive of my first series I thought I'd share with you the sequel. Basically it's just more stories about my toxic first relationship, except it's not exclusively about times he cried.

http://imgur.com/a/7x5PD

I'm really considering publishing this series and the first together in a lil square booklet, but I'm not sure where to start! Perhaps you all can point me in the right directions. I may just self print little zines!

hooo ly poo poo that comic

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Retro you didn't break up with him, did you? Where will you get more material??

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Do you look for PUA types or do the mommy issue havers find you

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
The Live Trace tool in Illustrator is good for upsizing images while maintaining sharp edges. It vectorizes the image and you can scale it indefinitely. Save the vectorized version as PDF and you won't have to worry about the printing company making any judgement calls with rescaling.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Turn off Livetrace's preview setting and crank it to photorealistic and you get a very detailed vector. If you leave preview on, it crunches away every time you adjust a slider. Was that the issue?

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
If you're starting with a blurry image you're going to face some touch-up, and despite this the middle result with Illustrator is the best of the lot. You don't have to make excuses for it, either. The result is objectively good. For any blemishes that remain, Illustrator also has a vector brush that makes fixing lines pretty easy. Illustrator is also such an industry standard that an artist should take any reason to learn basic Illustrator with a Lynda dot com tutorial or such.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

FunkyAl posted:

I found a fountain pen on the curb in a box and it has made drawing comics fun for the first time in as many years

That's a good premise. A magical fountain pen that solves writer's / artist's block and makes your comics wildly successful. But then "bad people" who are looking for the pen recognize the influence of the pen in your art and want it back.

The power of the pen can't be stolen, and it has to be lost or given away. So the bad guys doxx you and take to social media to attack your enjoyment of art.

Add a love interest and maybe a broken home life and you're golden

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
yeah all of it is great. Just remember the main character needs to be orphaned.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
oh nice what's up hentai-foundry buddy

wouldn't have known unless someone said something

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

FunkyAl posted:

Of course it directs people to my hentai foundry, it's a webcomic about a naked booby vampire

hell yes I love this so much

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
What about face outlines and separate eyes, eyebrows, and mouths that can be swapped out. Stop motion uses it.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
true, true.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/coraline-makers-reveal-how-they-863155

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Das Boo posted:

The Imgur thing should work fine. I was curious about the most digestible format, so here's what I got so far.

objectively cool

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

BoneMonkey posted:

Anyone read it? I wanna know what you guys think! I'm dying here!

It plays great as a sequence of images and my scroll wheel. Clear story.

page 13, 14, 15 and 16 shouldn't show the previous positions of the character climbing, I think.

On page 33, the angle isn't the best to convey the impact of his elbow

page 37 could show more motion in the thrown spear, perhaps with motion blur.
page 37 also seems out of place, in the bottom frame. Suddenly he's laying on wood. Is that a stream of consciousness moment? Might be better to make it dirt like the arena.

The impact of the blade into his opponent is missing (or could be added) between page 38 and 39

It was fun, BoneMonkey. Nice work.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
I'd move forward, it was labeled as final :shrug:

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

FunkyAl posted:

Lately I've been making my comic out of order and sitting on advance pages until I decide that I like them or do not like them, and then if I don't I rethink and redraw the whole thing before anyone sees. Here's a page I finished last month but won't be posting until probably october, probably



I don't understand half of this but it makes me like it even more. That whale is :discourse:

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Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
The way the far eye of the whale breaks perspective is really cute.

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