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dominion is a fun board game. you can download dominion.NET and play against bots: http://dominion.technowall.net/ i like talking about strategy, but without iso it's difficult to do anything other than play random pickup games or against bots. anyway, i thought it'd be cool to post a random card every day or so and talk about it. today's card is... vault!  vault is pretty clearly a great card in most boards and decks. it draws up to 2 cards then acts as a secret chamber, giving money for discards, and even if you get nothing but curses and estates you're guaranteed a 6 card hand. with some mild card draw and good economy this can be easily expanded to a guaranteed 8. it has the side effect of giving some deck sifting to your opponent, but in games w/ vault you're both likely to be going for it, so doing a net reduction of 1 card on your hand is something of a liability.
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May 31, 2015 23:14
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You are very cool my man.
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May 31, 2015 23:16
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The uninstall expansion.
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May 31, 2015 23:59
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Seriously though Dominion's a bad game because most setups lack interactivity and the optimal strategy is almost always to take the most cards/actions you possibly can, which means there's a lot of sitting around and watching opponents do things. And that's loving boring. At least M:TG has interrupts and the combat phase.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo
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FactsAreUseless posted:Seriously though Dominion's a bad game because most setups lack interactivity and the optimal strategy is almost always to take the most cards/actions you possibly can, which means there's a lot of sitting around and watching opponents do things. And that's loving boring. At least M:TG has interrupts and the combat phase. taking as many cards and actions as you can is a 'newbie trap' and not a very strong strategy at all. in general, everything in your post is true if and only if you are extremely bad
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Jun 1, 2015 00:39
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FactsAreUseless posted:Seriously though Dominion's a bad game because most setups lack interactivity and the optimal strategy is almost always to take the most cards/actions you possibly can, which means there's a lot of sitting around and watching opponents do things. And that's loving boring. At least M:TG has interrupts and the combat phase. depending on setup that's the least optimal strategy in the game, big money crushes it into the ground and an actual engine does what that's supposed to do but faster and neater
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Jun 1, 2015 00:40
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Well good, I played it once and hated it, glad to know I played it wrong.
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Jun 1, 2015 00:41
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FactsAreUseless posted:Well good, I played it once and hated it, glad to know I played it wrong. fwiw that's totally true about every dominion knockoff, which is why they're bad games
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Jun 1, 2015 00:43
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i was going to make a post comparing playing thunderstone to crushing your balls with a rock but i couldn't make it gel. it would have been good
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Jun 1, 2015 00:44
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Oh yeah I forgot Thunderstone, that was awful.
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Jun 1, 2015 00:46
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FactsAreUseless posted:Seriously though Dominion's a bad game because most setups lack interactivity and the optimal strategy is almost always to take the most cards/actions you possibly can, which means there's a lot of sitting around and watching opponents do things. And that's loving boring. At least M:TG has interrupts and the combat phase. imagine that the provinces are life points, and that by buying them you are damaging your opponent, and that your coppers and silvers are like goblins or zombies or cthulhus or whatever
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Jun 1, 2015 01:12
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Fungah! posted:i was going to make a post comparing playing thunderstone to crushing your balls with a rock but i couldn't make it gel. it would have been good I'm imagining it and smiling a little.
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Jun 1, 2015 01:37
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you could also use https://www.playdominion.com/ or table top simulator op, hth.
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Stairmaster posted:you could also use https://www.playdominion.com/ or table top simulator op, hth.
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Bobby The Rookie posted:They're working on an un-hosed official client currently and I guess it's supposed to hit Steam when it's released? That might've been some made-up nerd bullshit, but I want it to be true. that would be great
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Jun 1, 2015 03:38
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ya its gonna release this summer currently in closed beta
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relevant:  it's kinda cool to play around with the dumb singleplayer on playdominion and test strategies- i find trashing-focused decks strangely appealing
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Jun 1, 2015 05:16
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sector_corrector is cool.
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my brother prefers thunderstone over dominion which haha whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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I thought dominions was a computer game?
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Effectronica posted:relevant: that frog is cool
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Jun 1, 2015 15:47
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Pretty good card OP, but here's an even better card that goes with it, it's called Tunnel.
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Ralp posted:Pretty good card OP, but here's an even better card that goes with it, it's called Tunnel. i'm getting +1 money for discarding, AND gaining gold? i must be dreaming!
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today's random dominion card is, pillage! i have mixed feelings about this one. destroying a single hand can be very valuable in a tight game, and getting two disappearing gold in your deck can help you set up your economy, but the five price point has always seemed steep to me for a one off. there are two cards that can pick out of the trash (graverobber and rogue), but the chance of collision on a board is fairly limited. i'm willing to listen to people tell me i'm a dummy and that pillage is actually a great card, however.
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Ralp posted:Pretty good card OP, but here's an even better card that goes with it, it's called Tunnel. tunnel is in my top five favorite cards ever, it's so loving fun
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sector_corrector posted:today's random dominion card is, haven't played much dark ages pillage seems like it'd be really strong in a 2/5 open, if you get lucky with the hand destruction you can cripple your opponent's opening and you've got a pretty good shot at converting the spoils into actual gold or useful engine cards. don't really see myself buying it too often thoug
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Buschmaki posted:I thought dominions was a computer game? You're thinking of Dominions, friend.
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Fungah! posted:haven't played much dark ages pillage seems like it'd be really strong in a 2/5 open, if you get lucky with the hand destruction you can cripple your opponent's opening and you've got a pretty good shot at converting the spoils into actual gold or useful engine cards. don't really see myself buying it too often thoug yeah, that's true. as a late game buy it would also let the spoils turn into provinces or duchies, as well as potentially destroying a VP buy on one of your opponents big turns. even more so if they're running an engine and you can break a megaturn. so basically a major swing (6 - they lose a duchy buy and you gain one, or 12 - they lose a province buy and you gain one)
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Jun 1, 2015 18:01
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Effectronica posted:relevant: trashing ftw
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not a big Pillage fan for exactly the same reasons already mentioned but I haven't played with it much. However, consider this: an excellent counter to Pillage is having a hand of five Tunnels.
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SM64Guy posted:trashing ftw
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Ralp posted:not a big Pillage fan for exactly the same reasons already mentioned but I haven't played with it much. However, consider this: an excellent counter to Pillage is having a hand of five Tunnels. "Aaaaaah, the pillar man is forcing Jojo to discard a card, no! But... wait! Impossible, a hand of five tunnels!"
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use my tabletop simulator mod, y'all http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=302762302
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Jun 1, 2015 19:45
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SM64Guy posted:trashing ftw
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Jun 1, 2015 19:47
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sector_corrector posted:"Aaaaaah, the pillar man is forcing Jojo to discard a card, no! But... wait! Impossible, a hand of five tunnels!" that sounds more appropriate to kaiji/akagi than jojo's lol also SM64Guy posted:trashing ftw
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Ralp posted:not a big Pillage fan for exactly the same reasons already mentioned but I haven't played with it much. However, consider this: an excellent counter to Pillage is having a hand of five Tunnels. I like the way you think. Will this thread also cover Adventures?
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Mega64 posted:I like the way you think. i'm not familiar with it at all, since it's not in dominion.net yet and i haven't bought it, but sure
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FactsAreUseless posted:Seriously though Dominion's a bad game because most setups lack interactivity and the optimal strategy is almost always to take the most cards/actions you possibly can, which means there's a lot of sitting around and watching opponents do things. And that's loving boring. At least M:TG has interrupts and the combat phase. Most setups lack interactivity is entirely wrong because of how victory cards work.
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