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From looking at the manga Cioccolata probably replaced Fugo's fight. As their stands have similar basic concepts.
MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 21, 2018 |
# ¿ Dec 21, 2018 21:35 |
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:I haven’t read PHF. What are the differences between the backstories here and there? And since I forget 90% of this fight, what scenes were in the original manga? The differences from looking it up are that Fugo was close to his grandmother and when she passed away he was unable to attend her funeral because of his studies. The professor he attacked insulted his grandmother. Afterwards he did go to prison and met Bucciarati there. However after joining Bucciarati he also became one of Diavolo's assassins and preformed many missions for him, keeping them a secret from the team cause he felt Bucciarati would not condone them.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2018 03:44 |
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RatHat posted:Wasn't the soul swap thing the ability of Silver Chariot Requiem? It was.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2018 07:19 |
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fractalairduct posted:crossposting from the anime thread Baby face is a good if creepy fight.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2018 06:59 |
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Arist posted:Also its defeat is kinda weird because it's a rare example of a (non-Bound) Stand being defeated by something other than another Stand. Like, it just gets blown up. It is a quasi bound stand. The Baby Face Homunculus is a physical being that can be seen by anyone.
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2019 22:39 |
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Arist posted:It's Risotto sitting in a room with a dude from Passione asking him to hack something to track the boss I guess? Something like that. Anyway, Risotto makes nails appear in his hands and warns him that if he doesn't shut up he'll do it to his eye next. Then he does it. It makes a decent amount of sense. Babyface ripped GE's hand off trapping it inside itself, however the hand was actually a decoy being the motorcycle which turned back inside him, then exploded.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2019 23:40 |
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halleys comet posted:been thinking about Star Finger and all the times that jotaro could have instantly killed kira or pucci with Star Finger but chose not to out of good sportsmanship. When could he have?
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2019 08:52 |
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tiistai posted:The anime had a short new scene at the end with Diavolo and a sort of a teaser of King Crimson's powers No it doesn't. It just shows him vanishing after dropping his robe or whatever. multijoe posted:But then why does Narancia's ice cream melt along with all the other time related mishaps during Bruno vs King Crimson? If they were on auto-pilot he'd just have a licked ice cream without memory of eating it. Because they can't perceive anything during the erased time. If he was distracted, into doing something else, he would not eat the Ice Cream and would not be able to perceive it melting. It's the same as when he is killed. Narancia is thrown on the fence, and time is skipped. Because they did not know about him getting tossed on the fence, and wrre not going to do anything about that before the skipped time, they did not do anything about it despite the fact their skipped selves would have noticed it. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Feb 15, 2019 |
# ¿ Feb 15, 2019 19:56 |
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The reason the bullets passed through Diavolo is because he can't affect anything in the skipped time, but at the same time, nothing can affect him.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2019 20:39 |
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CJ posted:So he turns into a ghost when he is time skipping? Yeah basically.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2019 20:44 |
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With Narancia I assumed he just tossed him while no one was looking then skipped time, so Narancia would be impaled and bleed out without anyone seeing him.
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2019 23:20 |
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Momomo posted:I assume King Crimson has a large range for a stand but not the entire world. Otherwise everyone would have already experienced his stand whenever he used it before. It's not like The World where the entire world has to stop or otherwise it would make no sense. Yeah I assume the range is pretty big, but not the whole world. I forget did the gang notice being affected by it during the Risotto fight. Cause if not, it's range appears to less then Areosmith.
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2019 23:31 |
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We honestly have a lot of extra time.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2019 08:14 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:Did they skip the part where KC is just lounging on the stairs or is that coming next week? Next week.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2019 21:20 |
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He also appears to be in no mood to edit it out, which is annoying.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 20:58 |
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overmind2000 posted:We don't spend enough time with Diavolo to understand why he has to remain in control of Passione instead of moving to farm in Sardinia where he can disguise himself as Doppio and spend all day telling cows how superior to them he is. Because he wants to avoid all the Lows of life and solely get the highs. Being the eternal anonymous king of his appears to give him the most satisfaction.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 00:18 |
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Funky Valentine posted:Thinking on it, I'm kind of surprised that Diavolo didn't ice Fugo as a loose end. The fact that Fugo did not get on the boat with them means he did not betray him. Even when Bruno did deviate from the plan Diavolo still gave him a chance to walk away. He does not seem the sort to just throw away useful pawns unless they clearly go against him.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 10:23 |
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Expect My Mom posted:lol that this is what the next episode opens with immediately after the gang becomes wanted fugitives and abandoned one of their friends I love that they become concerned with the wine stain Narancia caused, instead of the fact they beat him half to death.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 23:11 |
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I consider Doppio to be an extension of Diavolo. So I am largely pretty fond of him.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2019 12:58 |
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I would just take the Who Shot Johnny as an inconsistency, like the very first appearance of King Crimson.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2019 09:26 |
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Silver2195 posted:I remember reading a detailed explanation somewhere of how Who Shot Johnny makes sense with how D4C is supposed to work. It's complicated and requires some really lucky timing on Valentine's part, IIRC, but I can roll with it. The thing with Diavolo I mean is when he takes Trish out of the Elevator without Bruno seeing. After that, everything is pretty consistent.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2019 20:36 |
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There is a fairly good chance we did not meet the entirety of Diavolo's Elite Guard.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2019 17:39 |
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RatHat posted:I was going to complain that the Anime is making it way too obvious that Doppio is the boss but I just checked the first chapter Doppio was in and it's almost explicitly said. I wish he would've remained more of a mystery until the reveal. Doppio has not shown up yet in the anime.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2019 15:10 |
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Yeah Diavolo did not bring many members of his guard into the picture. He did not have them go after them to Sardinia because he did not trust his guard enough to send them there, so went himself. And he brought in Cioccolata and Secco cause they were close to Rome and he really wanted Buccerati's gang dead. Squalo and Tizano were just the members in Venice at the time, and Carne was presumably close to the Airport. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 10, 2019 |
# ¿ Apr 10, 2019 02:38 |
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Diavolo also appears to have some control over Doppio's memory, and emotions. He went from knowing about Risotto and his goals, to having no idea, then enraged when the jig was up.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2019 22:27 |
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ChaseSP posted:I think Doppio is just kinda of an idiot, or atleast outright has a terrible memory. I doubt Diavolo would remove memories of looking for Risotto given how even he is cautious of him due to not knowing any of his abilities. It appeared to be deliberate, so Doppio would not give himself away to Risotto. He even said who is that when he saw Risotto, despite earlier having recognized him.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2019 23:59 |
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Hey Diavolo sorta at least lived in the end.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2019 04:17 |
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Exercu posted:There's also this: That's pretty creepy Diavolo just straight up vampiring someone.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 21:40 |
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Also it pretty much acts consistently from now on. I like King Crimson and Diavolo and found the anime has made me more fond of them.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2019 05:10 |
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multijoe posted:I don't think this is an entirely fair portrayal of peoples misgivings with with King Crimson. Stands with definied and somewhat consistent power have been important in JoJo because that is where Araki's smartest writing and most staisfying conclusions come from: Hayato tricking Kira into revealing his own name and nullfying Bites The Dust, Jolyne turning herself into a mobius strip to avoid being imploded, Weather Report saturating the air with oxygen to turn Pucci's time accelation against him, Johnny using the unloaded revolver to reveal Valentine's planned betrayal, they all come from the Stands involved having previously established rules which can be exploited and defeated, they're still thematically appropriate Stands for their users but tying into the themes of the story and doing something which actually makes sense with rules governing its use isn't an either/or proposition. I seriously don't see how King Crimson is galaxy brained or get a sense it works differently in every scene.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2019 19:28 |
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Someone used the word trope to describe something.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2019 17:22 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 18:22 |
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Johnny Joestar posted:yeah, basically. i don't remember if there's any overlap, but i do remember that oasis splits off to hound after bruno pretty exclusively while the others deal with moldboy. Secco's initial job is to knock the good guys down so they they molded to death, I forgot how he eventually separated from Cioccolata
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# ¿ May 10, 2019 23:23 |