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y well around and it's good for nothing. Going to Mars is like passing your neigbor's house on your way to the freeway. Sure you could stop here but why the gently caress would you do that? You're the one with all the powertools and his wife is ugly and there's not even an athmosphere what the hell. "Wow look at me I could be searching for life forms on Enceladus and actually being shielded from rem but instead I'm going to do the slowest trek on Olympus Mons it's the highest mountain in the Solar System you know. Dumb poo poo. Dumb poo poo to go on that rear end in a top hat frozen Mars Planet. I built a massive rear end rocket guess I'll use it to get to Trenton, PA why not? Good idea? No. NO. You want to plant a flag on the thing? Feeling like good 'ole Mexican Columbo in 1492? well good for you captain! I guess it's better than solving scarcity forever or flying through monoliths. And you're right planting flags inspire respect just like when russia shat out a flag on the North Pole that did wonders for them. So pissed at NASA right now.
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Jun 9, 2015 20:19
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Mars is the hollow earth its full of nazis and dinosaurs i cant wait to land
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Jun 9, 2015 20:28
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look reagan are you an ameriCAN or an ameriCANT hmmm
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Jun 9, 2015 20:30
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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We're trying to find the stuff that Calvin left behind when he went there with Hobbes.
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Jun 9, 2015 20:32
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Defund NASA, imo.
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Jun 9, 2015 20:36
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Also there are lots of Martian lifeforms, including the aliens from Mars Attacks, the Ice Warriors from Doctor Who, the invaders from War of the Worlds, and most importantly, Marvin from Looney Toons.
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Jun 9, 2015 20:41
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Because we ran out of mountains to climb. We need new places to get oxygen deprivation highs.
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Jun 9, 2015 21:57
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Because their entire battle fleet got destroyed out by Alpha Centauri, and the only defenses they have left are these five idiots:
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Jun 9, 2015 22:02
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Because this decade's excuse for Space Fetishists is that it is imperative that we spend many many times as much to ensure that we could survive the vague threat of asteroid impact on Mars than on a planet substantially more amenable to human life.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:07
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I don't know if you meant Trenton, NJ or Scranton, PA but I could see a make-work project transferring the population of both to Mars.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:16
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Register to go on a one death trip to Mars! If you don't get in don't be jelly you can watch your ex-future mates die on TV* *This show is never leaving the drawing board and there's not even a drawing board.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:17
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Hoping to reinvigorate America's space program following the Columbia tragedy, President Bush will reportedly announce plans next week to build a permanent space station on the moon that could serve as a base for sending astronauts to Mars. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/03/11/bush-to-announce-new-missions-to-moon-mars.html
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Jun 9, 2015 23:02
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Zogo posted:Hoping to reinvigorate America's space program following the Columbia tragedy, President Bush will reportedly announce plans next week to build a permanent space station on the moon that could serve as a base for sending astronauts to Mars. Sometimes I remember about Dubya's presidency and I chuckle a little inside.
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Jun 9, 2015 23:09
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How about instead of going to Mars, we build a loving space plane and show up at the ISS like we were something other than a mobster with a no-show job at the port?
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Jun 10, 2015 01:01
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Mars is the natural next step for long-term space travel and developing spaceborne infrastructure. Working in an environment with the relative abundance of Mars will prepare us for the asteroids, and for orbital habitats.
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Jun 10, 2015 02:07
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Effectronica posted:Mars is the natural next step for long-term space travel and developing spaceborne infrastructure. Working in an environment with the relative abundance of Mars will prepare us for the asteroids, and for orbital habitats. There is literally no reason to do any of that beyond just churning out more and more miserable human lives (as if 7 billion here on earth wasn't enough). Living in space would be a god drat nightmare and the laws of physics limit our species to this solar system at most. We would be better off building cities at the bottom of the ocean. It'd be easier, less costly, more pleasant, more abundant resources, and your commute back to the terrestrial sphere wouldn't be 6 months. Space colonization is a myth born from the rationalization of the limited and minor role of humans in the universe. It's staggering to me that people want to waste money and time trying to turn the loving moon into a sustainable habitat but somehow we can't find the will or technology to make living on earth sustainable.
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Jun 10, 2015 02:25
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Funding for NASA should be octupled but dedicated to lassoing asteroids and dragging them back to stable NEOs for future dropping on undesirable parts of the world.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:15
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Salt Fish posted:Space colonization is a myth born from the rationalization of the limited and minor role of humans in the universe. Why have this view? Why not think of humans as tremendously important? As far as we can find, we are the only source of consciousness which is a pretty unique thing. Consciousness is so unique and worth preserving that we should be doing everything possible to expand as much and as far as possible.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:18
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SKELETONS posted:Why have this view? Why not think of humans as tremendously important? As far as we can find, we are the only source of consciousness which is a pretty unique thing. Consciousness is so unique and worth preserving that we should be doing everything possible to expand as much and as far as possible. We do stupid things with consciousness and gently caress up everything we touch. If we expand it to the universe, we will only do more damage. We were a failed experiment and should just die out.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:23
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Starshark posted:We do stupid things with consciousness and gently caress up everything we touch. If we expand it to the universe, we will only do more damage. We were a failed experiment and should just die out. negative nancy. I have literally the complete opposite view. Of course there is plenty of human folly but we are by far the most interesting thing around biologically speaking. You can kill yourself (please don't) but I would rather be part of team grow and explore the universe, to the greatest extent possible.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:26
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Actually, people own. The world. And also space. Space colonization is just taking it back. But you wouldn't gently caress around with mars, you exploit the hell out of asteroids/moons first.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:28
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Get your arse to Mars!
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Jun 10, 2015 07:35
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It'd be pretty dope to put dudes (or dudettes) on another planet.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:39
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Space is the place. Mars is rad and filled with potential. It costs hardly anything at all. There are no downsides.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:47
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It's like you see a stuntman setting up a jump over a cage of flaming lions and you shrug and say "this seems like an unnecessary expense". Just relax and enjoy the show man.
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Jun 10, 2015 07:51
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Salt Fish posted:Space colonization is a myth born from the rationalization of the limited and minor role of humans in the universe. It's staggering to me that people want to waste money and time trying to turn the loving moon into a sustainable habitat but somehow we can't find the will or technology to make living on earth sustainable. Making the Earth sustainable might require a change in consumption habits and lifestyle. The American way is to never compromise those 2 things if it is possible to sustain them or improve them via pillaging and plundering natural resources from somewhere else. At least in the case of plundering other planets there probably won't be any natives for us to brutalize. In the past that last bit would have been considered a downside due to the lack of exploitable labor. We live in progressive times! Also, if we don't colonize other planets, how are we supposed to bring about our space dystopia with the underclasses shipped off to work on other planets while all the rich assholes squat on prime Earth real estate enjoying the perks of things like beaches, unspoiled nature, and a breathable atmosphere? ErIog fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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Salt Fish posted:There is literally no reason to do any of that beyond just churning out more and more miserable human lives (as if 7 billion here on earth wasn't enough). Living in space would be a god drat nightmare and the laws of physics limit our species to this solar system at most. We would be better off building cities at the bottom of the ocean. It'd be easier, less costly, more pleasant, more abundant resources, and your commute back to the terrestrial sphere wouldn't be 6 months. This is a good point to bring up. Like I said before, the big argument is asteroids. This seems to have arisen as the primary argument after overpopulation and nuclear war lost their luster. But it's easy to imagine a way for an equivalent number of people to survive even in a worst case, cheaper and easier: bunkers spaced far enough apart that an asteroid couldn't hit all or even most of them. And even an asteroid ravaged Earth is far more hospitable than Mars.
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Jun 10, 2015 08:09
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We must make a Moon mission so we cant make a Mars mission so we can make a Venus mission! Then we can make send a bunch of missionaries and spread the word of our Lord and Savior!
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Jun 10, 2015 08:18
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Counter-point - you shoot the asteroids, in space, with missiles, built in space. All you can do in sealab is look at how all the marine life just dies, because the sun is blocked out.
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Jun 10, 2015 08:22
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:It's like you see a stuntman setting up a jump over a cage of flaming lions and you shrug and say "this seems like an unnecessary expense". Just relax and enjoy the show man. This, in a nutshell, is the best way to explain everything thats happened in the world between 2003 and 2015
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Jun 10, 2015 08:36
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Space colonization was popularized during the cold war as a sneaky method to test ICBMs without violating missile treaties. The entire reason we had a space race was to show the Soviets that we could launch nuclear bombs around the earth with arbitrary accuracy. We're still being carried by momentum of State propaganda designed to sell the lie of manned space colonization 50 years later. There is a good reason the government hasn't seen fit to send an astronaut beyond low earth orbit since 1972.
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Jun 10, 2015 08:43
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Because it's there.
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Starshark posted:We do stupid things with consciousness and gently caress up everything we touch. If we expand it to the universe, we will only do more damage. We were a failed experiment and should just die out. I don't get why people with this sort of view don't just kill themselves.
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Motto posted:I don't get why people with this sort of view don't just kill themselves. The more correct criticism is that there is essentially nothing out there to gently caress up. Space is so staggeringly empty that the human mind can't conceptualize it.
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Jun 10, 2015 08:52
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Manned space exploration is kind of dumb. Exploring space with robots and rovers is cool as gently caress. People who pretend NASA funding is robbing third world children of lunch are loving jokes. We need a nuclear ice drill mission to Europa yesterday.
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Jun 10, 2015 09:17
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The two most pathetic types of kids' dreams are astronaut and fighter jet pilot. 'Cause these jobs won't exist in ten years, see?
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Jun 10, 2015 09:53
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If Mars One ever happens (and it wont). I'll be , like, super old by the time it happens so whatever man, strap me to a rocket and shoot me at the dumb red rock so I can dig up the shadow crab poo poo and GTFO into spaaaaaaaace
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Jun 10, 2015 10:12
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Potential BFF posted:. People who pretend NASA funding is robbing third world children of lunch are loving jokes. Not really. I'm willing to take anyone who makes this kind of utilitarian argument very seriously provided they show me that they donate literally all of their discretionary income to the advancement of the third world, they have donated one of their kidneys, are vegan, and never post on forums because that would be a distraction from providing more utility towards unfortunate people.
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gently caress Mars right in its stupid rear end in a top hat. It's the Red Planet, which means it's Communist, so why the hell are we even bothering to go there? To look at government-built tractors, rusted out Ladas, and Brutalist apartment buildings? The Martians probably all wear tracksuits and play in National Socialist Black Metal bands.
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