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So the TPP has been a very hot (see: controversial) piece of legislation in the US - in large part due to the veil of secrecy around the bill ostensibly to protect trade interests. The deal is aimed at making it easier for MNCs/nations to do business with one another by circumventing/removing tariffs and other pieces of protectionist laws and regulations. It has been suggested that this secrecy potentially plays against the American people as we cannot make an informed call to our representatives without more data. As of today - 6/12/2015, the US House of Representatives has rejected the Obama Administration's plea to fast-track the legislation through Congress. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33114488 I would like to hear D&D's thoughts on the bill: its possible merits, detriments, and progress (or lack thereof) Thunder Moose fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 12, 2015 |
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VH4Ever posted:I guess I'm instantly suspicious of any legislation that is so shrouded in secrecy a congressperson has to go to a secure location to read it and cannot take notes or document anything that's in the bill. And then you have both Obama and Boehner, who seemingly agree on nothing, both chiding the House today for voting no. It smells to high heaven, and it's the same big business establishment crony douchebags who all seem to want to pass it. This has been my thought as well. I am not automatically opposed to more open trade - it can be an excellent tool to enrich all involved. However, secrecy on something this important to protect trade interests at the expense of informing the people who live in a supposed republic: I don't know, I am sure there is some cliche idiom that summarizes this point but essentially garnering a small benefit at a massive cost to the democratic process.
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Broken Machine posted:I am against it, largely for reasons already mentioned. This is fantastic, thanks Broken Machine for this.
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Boon posted:almost no real data. Crux of the issue. 
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General statement but please keep the ad hominems out of the thread and stay on topic.
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Kalman posted:
It would herald the generic cheaper brand sooner at the cost of making the designer drug more expensive if I get what you are saying? (Honest question, I am pretty bad at comprehending this sort of thing)
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Hal_2005 posted:Seriously good thread. Charlie Rose is always welcome viewing material, thanks.
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