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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

I would assume your setup would work just fine, actually, as long as the wiring and hoses and sensors are all in solid shape. ABS isn't that complicated, you just have to feed the computer the input it wants. I'm just annoyed that it has fixed preprogrammed wheel sizes.

Yeah there's not much of a way around that. For early BMWs, Aprilia Capos, it might be possible to find ABS systems that have the right wheelsizes for your use case.

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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

BMW actually does have ABS system that they put on this bike, but they're so goddamn old they almost never work and parts are expensive as gently caress.

Weak, no chance of using a more commonly available modern system?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
What about the aprilia caponord systems? Those should be pre-canbus but maybe a touch more available.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

I didn't bother checking into any non-Japanese system because of parts availability and price. Just on assumption. V-stroms have a viable system too it looks like, but I can't find anything out there that has front/rear tire circumference ratios similar to my RT.

Hmm, could just lace up a 17 inch rear to match the V-Strom setup...wouldn't be OEM but would fix the problem...

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Website's finally up for the 1290:
http://1290smr.com

Z3n fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jan 9, 2017

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Lmao SSL cert error

Doh that's not supposed to be https

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

looks cool but minus points for an HST quote. They're veering toward Ducati with this one.

Interesting that it has bazzaz stuff right out of the box. Is it programmable too?

Man I cannot explain how happy this post made me. The whole point was to make it OEM as possible, so uh, thanks :)

High Protein posted:

Why the Duke 2 brake lever? Looks sweet though.

Edit: And why different fueling because of the headers? No cat?

Mounting style is ideal for my super janky proof of concept rearset plates that I never got a chance to make a final on.

There's a cat on the 1290 Super Adventure header but it's much less restrictive. The stock fueling is super good and the bazzaz with the auto tune unit is the rival of the OEM fueling, which I didn't think possible.

Frozen Pizza Party posted:

Wait a minute.. this is the bike you built.

Here I was getting all wet in the pants thinking this was something that was readily available :argh:

There's a parts list at the bottom. This is basically a parts swap build minus the rearset plates.

High Protein posted:

It's an extremely docile bike, if you can ride an SMC without looping it, you're fine.

His bike is so easy to ride. I wasn't convinced an aftermarket fuel setup would be as good as stock, I was wrong. I'm okay at wheelies but this bike, setup as it is, can wheelie forever.

Coydog posted:

It's not just the cost of the 1290SMC, you also have to account for the higher insurance and extra ER visits.


The jury is still out on this one.

No ER visits but doesn't hurt to have a lawyer on retainer.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Yeah, didn't throw a pile of effort into the details on this time but might go a little more in depth next time :)

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Step by step.



Tomorrow, we see if I actually rebuilt a functional engine or just a pretty piece of stand art.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Annnnd it runs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMFcTmwPoIQ

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Thanks all - busy AF at work, but still working away on things:

I have ordered a better condition ZX6R swingarm (the one for test fitting has seized bearings and will be sacrificed to make sure there's enough meat on the swingarm to clearance for the back of the engine), weld in shock mounts. I've also ordered a petcock rebuild kit, an Earls 10 row oil cooler, the appropriate AN-10 oil fittings, need to order a dyna ignition. I think this is highly unlikely, but it might be possible to make the ZRX speedo drive work with the CBX gauges.

Besides that, the #4 carb is leaking slightly (probably just some grit on the float needle), I need to take care of some odds and ends, clean up the gas tank, replace the fuel lines, remove the no longer needed electrical components, figure out rear wheel fit/spacers, figure out a rear brake, fit the oil cooler and have the lower oil cooler lines clamped to the fittings by a hydraulic shop, install turn signals, headlight, mirrors. Also need to order custom rear shock upper bushings for fitting the ZRX shocks to the CBX frame.

Once that stuff is done the bike will be rideable.

After that stuff is done, its:
Ducati headlight mounting/wiring
ABS
Replace wiring harness / rewire bike / RFID key
Steering damper / handlebar mounts
Replacement gauges

And then finally, after the engine is broken in nicely and all, and we've had fun for a couple thousand miles, it'll all get torn down for paint/powdercoat/other cosmetic work.

And after that is done, I'll probably try and custom make a 6 into 6 for it, get it all tuned up properly, and see if I can break 100rwhp on it.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Haven't done a lot of digging on this, but DEcosse has done a pile of RFID conversions and I was planning on cribbing from his notes.

http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple-forum/344937-keyless-ignition-part-trois-et-demi.html#/topics/344937?page=1&_k=av4t6m

This one uses some commercial components but ill probably DIY a more traditional RFID setup without the remote.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
So, I've made some progress and then threw everything together so I could feel like the bike was going somewhere:


Shooting for first ride at end of February.

Have two things to address - the first is the shock bushings (I think i can get away with removing the old metal spacer bound to the bushing), the second is getting the swingarm shock mounts welded on, which requires making sure my test fit and such is in place.

Also, man, the old fuseable link fuses are hilarious.

Oh, and the ignition switch broke, that made for some fun troubleshooting.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
And it is together!


What got it here - had the swingarm welded up, replaced the oil sensor, removed the R/R, installed a modern main fuse, pulled the carbs to clear some grit from the #4 float bowl, reinstalled the motor mounts, hooked up all the cables, addressed the wiring, installed the air filters, checked the chain fit.

Needs some new swingarm spacers installed (they're on the way), and a bunch of random things, shock spacers, tires, centerstand stop, steering stop, chain guide, install the Dyna ignition, fuel lines, crankcase breather lines, clean out / de-rust the tank, slide the fender back a bit, and then it will be on the road! If all the parts show up, I'll have it done this weekend - had to order a 98 ZX6R swingarm slider from England of all places. Also needs mirrors, rear brake, and a couple of other minor odds and ends.

Then it's getting it re-registered in CA, paint it in the official color of lazy masculinity, figure out the ducati headlight, RFID ignition, steering damper mount, and maybe replacement gauges if needed.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Flat black is the only color for lazy masculinity.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

BlackMK4 posted:

I see the invite... this gives me 4 months to get both bikes sold off and to find a V4R or SDR for ~$8k :v:

I believe!

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Changed 4 tires today - Roadtec 01s on the S1000XR, a new rear Metzler on the SuperDuke, and the front Pilot Road on the CBX. Also, cleaned the bikes with S100, which seemed to work out pretty nicely, took 2 tries on the S1000XR, which hasn't been cleaned in like a year. Also started trying to kill the varnish out of the CBX tank, which is probably going to be long process...it's soaking in simple green aircraft cleaner right now, we'll see how it goes tomorrow, might throw some chain in the tank and shake it about to try and clean out the last of the residual gunk.

Once that is done, all I need to do is install the chain guard and the bike is rideable! Of course, it won't have a rear brake but who needs those.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Rode the CBX!

But the gas tank is still steadily losing varnish and poo poo, so I'm gonna have to keep cleaning it, rather than riding the CBX. Did a pass with Por15 cleaner (nasty stuff) and now doing a pass with Evaporust. We'll see how it goes!

Also, decided to keep the SuperDuke, and start modifying it. Building the 1290 SMR was p fun, but I think it's time for something a bit different. I have purchased a 690 Enduro gas tank/seat, and will be trying to make a legit "supermoto" out of the 1290. I still need to find some tail plastics, radiator shrouds, and might need to do some additional modding to get the seat and subframe to fit. Shooting for ~420 pounds, 170rwhp, 8 inches of suspension travel, and a seat height low enough that my wife can sitll ride the bike. I've taken a look and it is definitely possible to do it, so clearly it's time to make another bad idea a reality!

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Livin' that dream. The only downside to the 1290 SMR is that it's pretty top heavy due to the gas tank being high and forward, this should move the CoG down quite a bit. Plus it was having some difficulty doing wheelies with all that weight, so moving the gas to the back should fix that up real nicely. Folks are seeing 170hp with the akra and an otherwise unmodified airbox, so if I run the Rottweiler setup, and the full Akra system, I should be able to see ~175rwhp. Bazzaz for fuel tuning, and I'll borrow the Z-AFM off of the 1290 SMR for tuning purposes.

I haven't put more than a few hundred miles on the SuperDuke since I bought the XR, but this is the one thing I can do that make me want to ride it again...

Already have the suspension on the way as well.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Slavvy posted:

You'll forgive me for being skeptical :v:

Fiff gear or bust

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Most parts ordered. Remaining parts: some OEM random stuff, brake lines, rottweiler intake (if i need it).

The biggest item I need to figure out at the moment is how to mount the 1290 fuel pump into the 690. I think there's a number of ways this can be done, but until I have the parts on hand, it's gonna be hard to tell how to do it.

loving FedEx has the tank sitting in Sacramento until Tuesday for some loving reason. On the flip side, my shock coming from Lithuania showed up in 3 days. :iiam:

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Ola posted:

I've heard of lots of high performance machines running on exotic fuels, but fuuuuuuuuuck.

they're good fuels, bront

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
This seems fine:



Tail's a bit higher than I want:


But it should be possible to fit everything and make this work :)

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

builds character posted:

Is that with the bike up on the stand? How much clearance is there down low?

Obligatory, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFyw57o_Ic

That's with it upright, on both the wheels, no rider weight.

And don't get me wrong, that rider is short, but a 40 inch seat height is a level above that. The tail is 51 inches off the ground. I can get one foot down on the ground, kinda, if I let my other foot float about 5 inches above the footpeg. With the adventure pegs on, it's going to be insanely roomy, borderline standing up sitting down. Need to figure out how to get that seat to sit a bit lower if I expect anyone else to be able to enjoy it.

Here it is with a bunch of stuff under the kickstand so it sits relatively upright:

Z3n fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Mar 22, 2017

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

High Protein posted:

If you won't be relocating the exhaust up high so it runs through the cutout in the tank, you could fit a rally replica tank for a bit more fuel, it's probably expensive though.

Yeah that's the plan once test fits are validated. Exhaust will likely stay on the other side of the bike.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Oh it has about 11 inches of ground clearance - around 2-3 at full compression on both ends.

Slavvy posted:

Sick streetfighter bro.

It's in the German style, ya. (Hopefully less so soon)

Coydog posted:

Well, duh, nobody is on the bike to compress the shocks. Also, I'm really tall just send it to me.

Super impressed with how natural the side plastics and seat look on that frame, though. I would not have expected it.

Yeah I'm surprised the 1290 frame actually is just as narrow as the 690 frame. The seat actually lands directly on the frame rails on the 1290.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Test rode this thing:



It was pretty good, I made it less than a mile before I did a wheelie over a curb to ride through a park.

So I decided I should buy this:


After all, I've got great street bikes, clearly it's time to buy a great dirt bike.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

builds character posted:

Why'd you get the 450 vs the 350 or 500, what are you planning to do to it and can you give us a review after you've ridden for a while?

So - bone stock, I rode the 350 in sumo trim and it was great from a suspension and feel standpoint, but it wasn't quite powerful enough for me. On the dirt it'd be way more than enough, but for street the 350 wasn't quite as punchy as I'd like (note that I'm a total horsepower fiend and have unreasonable standards). The 450 is only a pound or 2 heavier, and the six days is about $800 more than the 500 with a whole bunch of nice stuff like a comfort seat, skidplate, nicer rotors, the preload adjusters, etc. its way more bike than I need but so it goes! Will definitely review when I've got some miles on it. Use is mostly offroad / ohv stuff, with some minor street and sumo stuff as well.

BlackMK4 posted:

Is this for sale? Do I want to know how much the asking price is?

It's not, no - stock 350 EXC-F with Warp 9 rims on it.

Think it added up to about 14k with the bike (new) and parts.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Photo dump i guess cause I've gotten bad at words.

Dat track scene:





Dort borks?




ADV, lol:


Another 1290 SM I GUESS:


Drift car!




A review of the 450:

XC-F reflash is mandatory if you do anything slow. Running tubliss is great. The 450 is way too much bike for a returning offroad rider like me, but I'm learning in spite of it. 350 would have been a much better choice for me overall, but every time I air the bike off some bullshit or use the throttle to bunnyhop me off some poo poo I remember why I love the hell out of the bike, even if the massive engine makes things harder. Love the poo poo out of the thing, though, it's a loving awesome bike. Riding a wheelie from first to 6th is some hilarious poo poo.

Oh and the CBX is running but leaking some oil, need to re-torque the head bolts.

Z3n fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jun 19, 2017

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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Yeah, burned through my pants and torched a bit of my knee / knee brace when I crashed and got stuck up against the header for a bit.

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