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Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Unguided posted:

There have always been bad tanks, this just increases the odds of getting one.

My first time ever in a dungeon, I had a tank who never used Flash for the entire instance. Miraculously we pulled through because I drew the most enmity as an Archer so I could just keep running around, and the healer was top-notch. Simultaneously a negative and positive first impression.

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Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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So my Bard just finished the MSQ for 2.55, and holy poo poo. I'm torn between leveling a Dragoon or Arcanist and a few gathering classes or just going ahead and getting Heavensward to blow through the story.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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IcePhoenix posted:

no difference other than that, though? I'm not really that big on CEs

I like the convenience of buying stuff on steam (and have some extra steambux atm) so I'd prefer to buy it there, but I'm just making sure there's nothing that will hurt me game-wise.

e: like if I can't redeem a friend invite or something

Pretty much it'll just force you to boot up the steam client whenever you want to run it, and in the future all expansions will need to be bought through Steam. The boxed copies are not compatible with the Steam versions of the game.

That's the only real difference. Friend invites and collector's edition content and cash shop stuff are bought through Mogstation, as usual. If you need a friend invite, there's a goon list in the server forum.

Edit: I went with the non-Steam version, since I managed to find ARR on sale for 10 dollars and Heavensward on sale for 30 elsewhere. I'm not sure how often or even if Steam does sales on FF14 at current, but I know Greenmangaming has had a number of discounts apply to it lately.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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ilifinicus posted:

Welcome to your new nightmare:


spiritbind those weapons before you desynthesize them to make the i250 weapons WOOOOOOOOOOOO

This feels like a mechanic that they would've considered, then discarded for being a terrible idea before introducing desynth in the first place. It feels backwards that it's showing up now.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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HenryEx posted:

I'm still waiting on the specialist crafts that require 3-star unspoiled soulbound materials.

Shut up they might be listening!

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Blockhouse posted:

the only thing keeping me from going roe is I'm afraid how they look as ninjas

Uh, amazing?

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Oxygen Deficiency posted:

CUL 50 quest spoilers: "We resurrected the Sultana from the dead so she could taste your cooking, welp back to the grave with her."

I always liked to imagine it was Lolorito Weekend At Bernie's-ing her.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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ilifinicus posted:

they may have taken it to heart and eventually recall what you said at a later point, but right there and then you're offending their no tryhard stance and they will have none of it and instead become stubborn children that may even try to wipe you for DARING to suggest they play the game better

I seriously watched two people up and quit my free company because someone told one of them, as a Dark Knight, that they should be using Darkside. Just up and threw a tantrum, then two people quit.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Verranicus posted:

So apparently this guy joins random FCs, steals everything he can from their banks, then harasses them all while recording it for these bizarre youtube videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwANnmthjHg

Huh, I ended up in a random trial (Chrysalis) with this gently caress. He mostly ran around, trolling by being deliberately bad and pretending to be new and not understanding the game while typing in all caps.

He was a tank.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Sinners Sandwich posted:

I want other players to hear my mount song as I ride past them

I see people going into fits as Exponential Entropy rises from the distance on the doppler effect.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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hobbesmaster posted:

The "and then they went back in time and became their own great-great-great.... grandparents" part was pretty dumb.

Going to be laughed at for this, but I kinda liked it. Alexander being a primal around time, it sort of fits that it ends up engineering its own creation and stasis by layering it all within two or more paradoxes, since it can't help stop itself if it doesn't exist.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Josuke Higashikata posted:

The Limit Break/KotR phase of Thordan is legit great and I'm always glad to get the fight in Trial rou.

Whenever I get it with a newbie in the roulette I like to pretend it's my first time seeing it. "Is this real?! I don't wanna go to space!"

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Obligatum VII posted:

Nero still hasn't quite gotten over his massive inferiority complex, but he has made strides towards it.

Also, we don't really know his intentions in regards to Omega. For all we know, he shows up and helps us out with the thing at some point down the road.

Edit: I think it'd be a really funny subversion if they play up his tinkering with Omega as super ominous and then he ends up an ally with it.

Part of me thinks he's just going to dig it up and tinker with it because it's there, because it's magitek, and because he wants to understand more and be a better engineer. I'd like to believe that he's left behind petty rivalries and pointless allegiances, and is just generally dedicated to his craft out of curiosity and passion.

Of course, it's up in the air. He clearly came to some sort of personal resolution/revelation at the end of the Crystal Tower line, and it could either be great or horrifying for everyone.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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I made a cowboy cat. A catboy if you will.



Usually have the adamantite revolver glammed, but I'm liking the shire rifle.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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SonicRulez posted:

The ones at the head of the snake are definitely badder than bad. It's one of those "ends do not justify the means" kind of thing. Like how The Punisher also hates crime, but he handles that with a ton of bullets, so Spider-Man doesn't like him. We all would like for giant monsters to stop eating the planet, but they want to do it by killing everything so they're baddies.

I just meant personally. Gaius was more affable than he had to be compared to Nero or Livia.

Nael/Deus was definitely a dick though. No people deserve to be Majora's Mask'd.

Nero was in it for knowledge and self-aggrandizement. Livia was in it because it was all hers and she didn't want to lose it. Gaius actually believed every bit of imperial rhetoric, making him an example of simultaneously the most noble elements of their philosophy and the most horrific. I can't help but appreciate the way he managed to subscribe to both "might makes right" and "with great power comes great responsibility." To him there didn't seem to be a difference or disassociation between wanting to conquer and wanting to shepherd, and I get the impression that the upper echelons of the empire are populated equally by power-hungry opportunists and those who, like Gaius, actually believe there's a nobility to what they do.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Countblanc posted:

People who deliberately play poorly in order to teach someone a lesson or something baffle me. It's like when people brag about not healing a dps who takes damage or a tank not grabbing a mob when someone pula aggro. Just loving, just play the game. You'll never see that person again most likely and your "lesson" just slows things down for everyone else.

Personal loving peeve there. Just give your Commendation to someone else and move on, it's not hard. Maybe bitch about it in FC chat if you absolutely need to blow off steam.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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CrashScreen posted:

I feel like they've been working on giving the Warrior of Light more personality and a stronger identity over the course of Heavensward. They're still fairly template, but it's the small touches.

It's the little things. Being able to be encouraging to the Deftarm or exasperated, whether you choose to stay or go at the end of Baelsar's Wall, and whether or not you say "this is a bad idea but what else to do" or "I think it's solid." The outcomes all end up being the same, but it allows the player to add touches of personality to a character which has typically been devoid of them. I've been liking it.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Say what you will, but Lolorito Weekend At Bernie's-ing Nanamo if you do the Cul50 quest after 2.5 is my favorite thing in this game.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Question for the gooners who have the lore book, has there ever been a instance about multiple versions of the same primal existing at the same time? What's to stop dozens of Ifrits running around wrecking havoc?

Another primal question, what's to stop Ifrit from becoming a giant frog or or a flaming puppers? Mythology is subject to change over time based on how people craft their beliefs...maybe at one point in the past Crag dad was actually the lizard beast tribe's primal but at some point a kobold heard about a giant Titan God and prayed to that.

The answers to both these questions are tied together. Each primal has a certain sort of aetherial.... it-ness. Those qualities that make up Ifrit, its essential Ifritness, are tied up in its summoning. You could summon another giant angry fire dude, supposedly, but it couldn't be Ifrit, couldn't be viewed as the same guy, etc. etc.. The specifics of how Ifrit feels and what Ifrit does are tied up in the people who summoned him, their wants, hopes, prayers, and so on, but Ifrit is Ifrit, regardless of the particulars of his personality.

What's to stop Ifrit from being a giant flaming frog is that Ifrit is a giant fire demon. A giant fire frog would be something else. There are potential cases of mythological 'drift' that are speculated to have occurred with the Primals, notably Ramuh, Shiva, Thordan, and (potentially) Zurvan. Ramuh bears some incredibly striking similarities to Rhalgr, the Twelve's god of destruction who enjoyed throwing lightning bolts, but he's not Rhalgr; he's the wise man who throws bolts which scorch the forest and made the sylphs. Shiva is a mythic representation of the Saint Shiva, and otherwise normal elezen woman who did not actually have ice powers. Thordan was not a towering god-king, but a thousand years of prayer deified him in the minds and hearts of Ishgard.

None of these examples really represent a Primal myth spawning another Primal based on its source, though--Shiva and Thordan were elezen, and Rhalgr, to our knowledge, has never been summoned as a primal (despite a foiled attempt by Ala Mhigan refugees). Zurvan, though... this is just speculation, but given his role as "the Demon," his focus on martial prowess, and the flaming-hot appearance he takes when infuriated, you could draw some visual and thematic connections to Ifrit.

Edit: Summarized: Primals are myths personified via faith and aether. The qualities of that myth are pulled from the aetherial sea on summoning, preventing multiple beings viewed as 'Ifrit' from existing simultaneously.

Ironslave fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Apr 4, 2017

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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SirPhoebos posted:

What Ages have we gotten lore about? From my memory and experience, Hydelan's 14 or 15 ages have been revealed as such:

  • 1st Astral: ???
  • 1st Umbral: ???
  • 2nd Astral: ???
  • 2nd Umbral: ???
  • 3rd Astral: ???
  • 3rd Umbral: ???
  • 4th Astral: Allag Empire
  • 4th Umbral: Xande-clone blows his realm up (or something)
  • 5th Astral: Ampador, Mhach, and Nym
  • 5th Umbral: War of Magi, Flood
  • 6th Astral: Qarm
  • 6th Umbral: Qarm falls
  • 7th Astral: modern Eorzean states & Garlemand, FFXIV 1.0
  • 7th Umbral: Calamity, FFXIV 2.0
  • 8th Astral(?): FFXIV 2.1 and onward

So where do the events of the Dragonsong War fall in all of this? Do we know anything about the ages prior to the Allagans?

Move everything on your list back a step and you mostly have it. The cycle of ages goes Umbral-Astral not Astral-Umbral

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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The Feast is always going to frustrate me, because it's so close to being everything I wanted in PvP--a quick, bloody skirmish with strategy that can provide a fun time even if the match doesn't last long, and where bad matches can be over swiftly--but manages to gently caress it up in small ways which tarnish it for me. The inability to effectively communicate damages the ability to coordinate, especially rapidly, and makes it difficult to organize come-behind victories, leading to moments where the outcome was decided in the first two minutes but the losing team has enough competent members to keep it from being an instant-loss.

But then suddenly I'll get into an eight-minute match where players understand what they're supposed to be doing and things seesaw so manically I fall back in love with it all over again.

So close to everything I wanted. So drat close.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Xarbala posted:

I'd never really latched onto MMOs before FFXIV because any moderately challenging fights in these games always felt like playing tab-target hokey-pokey in a mosh pit. And making the "put your left foot in, take your left foot out" part more complex and technically demanding might appeal to a large number of people, but if I'm going to be stuck here playing hokey-pokey, I'd better be wasted as gently caress in a concert where Koji Fox is on stage in a Fat Chocobo costume belting out barely coherent lyrics.

Koji Fox is like some sort of bizarro Chris Metzen who understands things like worldbuilding and a cohesive setting. He is a balding nerd who translates a video game and gets to play a role in establishing its lore while inserting localization gags, and then he gets to go up on stage at Fanfest and do vocals in a primarily-japanese VGM band that he wrote the lyrics for.

He is a treasure and I love him and I want him to never leave us.

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Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

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Obligatum VII posted:

Bahamut is cool, but I was really expecting the stormblood SMN stuff to be Alexander themed. Dragon lasers are cool, but variety is nice too, y'know? RIP holy judgement.

I was hoping new SMN abilities would be tied to other primals. Moggle Mog, Ramuh, Shiva, Ravana, etc.. Maybe next expansion.

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