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thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp

Rodatose posted:

unlimited unpaid labor supply, replenishes the ranks of the proletariat, ability to live on vicariously against their desires as you force them to succeed where you failed, gives you something to talk to neighbors and relatives about, must not be outbred by lesser races, etc

See, the problem here is that none of this is enacted.

You actually have to be hardline to do this, especially making them work.

I see no benefit to children unless you keep them out of school so that a) they can work and b) they aren't brainwashed/made numb. Possibly the only legit reason, if you are white, is that every other race is pumping them out faster.

Totally unironic fyi.

I see no benefit to having kids personally.

A better question would be: why had kids if you can't (and have to resort to IVF) or if there is a high chance of creating autistic kids or kids with some other issue? Genetics is our future, both for screening and removing the need for child-rearing altogether.

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thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
Yeah, I'm not going to tell people they shouldn't have kids (unless, you know, the previous genetic disorder thing is relevant).

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp

downout posted:

Your insight on humanity requires expansion. This thread could use really use your input.

What the hell, I'm not a libertarian dude.

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
Hardly, they're a bad long term investment too.

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
Definitely good replies in this thread.

Good reads on the topic:

http://www.amazon.com/Every-Cradle-...adle+Is+A+Grave This is definitely more about suicide than birth, but same philosophical ground.

http://www.amazon.com/Better-Never-Have-Been-Existence/dp/0199549265

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Antinatalist-Jim-Crawford/dp/0989697266/ref=pd_bxgy_14_text_y

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thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
Except it isn't. And also poorly put together.

Negatives always outweigh positive, the positives have to be pretty strong to win.

If you found 50 bucks but put your back out bending over to get it, you would be more upset than happy.

Change it to 50k and you can pay for a physiotherapist.

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