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Pretty much the title. Tired of hearing people tout it as the economic philosophy Bible or something equivalent, but it seems like a waste to read just to understand why its dumb.
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There are dudes and dudesses who are like Jesus and make loads of money because they are holy, then the stupid plebs try to tax them and do all kinds of commie poo poo so the lords and saviours are like "k ill get me' coat" and gently caress off and then everyone runs out of money because plebs can just tax but not make money so they run out of money end of story. Moral of the story: Taxing or being a commie is bad mmkay.
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Jun 23, 2015 06:29
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUa7s3xuqxI
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Jun 23, 2015 07:16
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ayn rand rants against welfare all her life, dies poor and alone on welfare.
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Jun 23, 2015 07:31
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One of the good characters steals gold from foreign aid ships to give back to the owners of corporations.
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Jun 23, 2015 09:59
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Das Butterbrot posted:ayn rand rants against welfare all her life, dies poor and alone on welfare. Yeah it's basically a typical grumpy white person fantasy when in reality they'll all end up like she did.
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Jun 23, 2015 12:48
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Isaac posted:One of the good characters steals gold from foreign aid ships to give back to the owners of corporations. In the ending he swings through a giant plate-glass window on a rope like Tarzan and then shoots a bunch of guys with dual pistols.
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Jun 23, 2015 13:36
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What starts off as an interesting romp through an alternate reality where titans of industry struggle against the comically inept masses ends as a cringe-worthy, poorly conceived political treaties on why you shouldn't help anyone ever (unless they pay you) delivered with masturbatory intensity by a fictional economic Jesus over the course of a three hour monologue.
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Jun 23, 2015 15:27
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gently caress you OP. Got mine!
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Jun 23, 2015 15:38
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How has this thread not been Galtse'd yet?
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Jun 23, 2015 16:09
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It's a masturbatory treatise on why only the stupid are poor.
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Jun 23, 2015 17:13
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Imagine fox news talking about job creators, and make that into a very long book
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Jun 23, 2015 17:24
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I haven't read it, but I know Ayn Rand is hated by academic philosophers for her amateurish attempts to create a universal, coherent philosophy that justifies being a selfish poo poo-stain. Oh, and she was hypocritical and a terrible person all-around. I will say that if you can detach yourself from her ideology, she's apparently still enjoyable to read.
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Jun 23, 2015 17:40
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It's poorly written
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Jun 23, 2015 17:52
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Radio Talmudist posted:I will say that if you can detach yourself from her ideology, she's apparently still enjoyable to read. its impossible to do this, most characters' dialogue is unrelated political views rand wants to shove into the book
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Jun 23, 2015 18:14
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the book "the fountainhead" has the protagonist commit an act of terrorism because someone edited his work, and ends by having him make a very inspiring speech about how you need to stay ~true to yourself~ and everyone stands up and claps and he finally wins the girl
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Jun 23, 2015 18:20
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Control Volume posted:Imagine fox news talking about job creators, and make that into a very long book and one of the TITANS OF INDUSTRY makes a perpetual motion machine... AND a force-field. sadly, the pulp sci-fi crap is not the most unbelievable thing about the book. Realpost: Atlas Shrugged proposes that people like Mitt Romney, Sheldon Adleson and the Koch Brothers would prefer to piss off to some Freedomtopia instead of taking advantage of the numerous social and fiscal benefits they gain living in society, because THE POORS and LEECHES are just taking their god-given awesomeness and THE GOVERNMENT is too stifling. In doing so, they continue to JOB CREATE/INVENT at such an alarming rate, Libertopolis becomes the machine-city from The Animatrix. What would really happen would be something out of The Blythesdale Romance, where they'd get to Objectivistland and suddenly go nuts because they have to, like, clean their giant homes or water the lawn or loving dig in the dirt for food like FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 18:26
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Control Volume posted:the book "the fountainhead" has the protagonist commit an act of terrorism because someone edited his work, and ends by having him make a very inspiring speech about how you need to stay ~true to yourself~ and everyone stands up and claps and he finally wins the girl You forgot about the part where the protagonist rapes the chick he gets in the end
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Jun 23, 2015 19:01
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goodness posted:Pretty much the title. Tired of hearing people tout it as the economic philosophy Bible or something equivalent, but it seems like a waste to read just to understand why its dumb. At one point in the book, the main character gives a speech. It goes on for 70 pages.
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Jun 23, 2015 20:00
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Goons love to hate this book, but in 99.9% of cases they've never read it. They hate it out of a sense of primitive tribalism. So I suggest you read it OP, form your judgement and don't be a misguided bernie sanders cultist like these poor gullible fools.
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Jun 23, 2015 20:07
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Smoking Crow posted:You forgot about the part where the protagonist rapes the chick he gets in the end
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Jun 23, 2015 22:57
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Smoking Crow posted:It's poorly written Yeah, even if you take away the overt political message (you can't, but let's pretend that you can), it's just bad writing. Monologues do not need to go on for three hours.
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Jun 23, 2015 23:38
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It's political masturbation that relies on people like Donald Trump inventing a perpetual motion machine, force field, and cloaking device, and deciding to gently caress off to a utopian subsistence-level commune rather than make all the money from redefining the laws of physics by inventing those things.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:18
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FilthyImp posted:What would really happen would be something out of The Blythesdale Romance, where they'd get to Objectivistland and suddenly go nuts because they have to, like, clean their giant homes or water the lawn or loving dig in the dirt for food like Sort of like this:  But hasn't this been tried a few times in real life, ending in someone running away with all the money each time?
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Jun 24, 2015 00:29
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Bitter Mushroom posted:Goons love to hate this book, but in 99.9% of cases they've never read it. They hate it out of a sense of primitive tribalism. So I suggest you read it OP, form your judgement and don't be a misguided bernie sanders cultist like these poor gullible fools. Oh, well, I read it, and it seriously sucked rear end, and that was when I was a shithead teenager that read whatever was thrown my way as escapism from living in the rural south town I grew up in. Also, Sanders 2016. The only dude who won't make me protest vote for the corpse of Eugene Debs.
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Jun 24, 2015 00:37
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how about you form your own opinion instead of letting other people dictate what you should think
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Jun 24, 2015 00:45
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How shall we gently caress off, O Lord?
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Somewhere, in the bowels of Objectivism, ayn rand claims Locke is a better philosopher than Kant. that is reason enough not to take anything she ever wrote, said, or did seriously. Objectivism is also full of blatant contradictions, like several on every page contradicting things she said on the prior page. as someone else posted earlier, she spent her life tirading against socialism, but had fuckall problems being a welfare fraud. she's one of the most self contradictory, lie filled pieces of poo poo that ever walked, you have no reason or compulsion to read her moral fiction. it would be like reading a childcare book written by aatrek.
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Sizone posted:she spent her life tirading against socialism, but had fuckall problems being a welfare fraud. she's one of the most self contradictory, lie filled pieces of poo poo that ever walked, you have no reason or compulsion to read her moral fiction. But not with Ayn Rand. That's too much.
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Jun 24, 2015 03:31
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FilthyImp posted:I mean, sometimes people can divorce The Artist and The Art, like they do with childfuckers (Woody Allen, Roman Polanski). The usual response when you bring this up is "But she EARNED it!"
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Jun 24, 2015 03:46
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FilthyImp posted:I mean, sometimes people can divorce The Artist and The Art, like they do with childfuckers (Woody Allen, Roman Polanski). None of Polanski's movies were about how wrong it is to get your lolita on.
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Jun 24, 2015 07:24
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FilthyImp posted:I mean, sometimes people can divorce The Artist and The Art, like they do with childfuckers (Woody Allen, Roman Polanski). Polanski made good movies though.
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Jun 24, 2015 08:07
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This didn't bookmark when I posted so I'm catching up now, thanks for the replies so far.
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Jun 24, 2015 17:58
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Thanks for helping me know that I never need to read this crap. How many pages is the speech actually?
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Jun 24, 2015 18:04
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goodness posted:Thanks for helping me know that I never need to read this crap. like 60 iirc
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Jun 24, 2015 18:24
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When Forums Terrorist John Galt-bombed the Games Workshop thread it took five full posts, and the character limit is 50k per post.
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Jun 24, 2015 22:29
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A schlocky 70s B-movie about killer scarecrows has fewer straw men in it than an Ayn Rand novel.
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TheFluff posted:When Forums Terrorist John Galt-bombed the Games Workshop thread it took five full posts, and the character limit is 50k per post. Whenever Atlas Shrugged has been performed on stage or live, the full speech has never managed to come in at less than a hour long.
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Jun 25, 2015 11:28
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It has trains so if you like trains maybe you will find it enjoyable! There are parts without trains, but those are largely optional and of little importance.
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It's a book that I tried to read, twice, and just couldn't get through.
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Cat Army