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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

I play these games and afterwards do not go off and masturbate to the female characters. So like I said earlier, kinda, if someone is doing this, or see's it as sexualized, then that is entirely on them.

This right here, this "it's not a problem unless you make it one " poo poo? It's retarded as hell.

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

If they depicted women in outfits that actually represented professional fighters they would be even more naked and sexualized. Minimal spandex is pretty much the norm in fighting sports, adding that much costume is a cover-up if anything, not a blatant sexualization.

Yes clothing is never used to emphasize sexuality and lead paint is delicious

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Unfunny Poster posted:

Really, we should be demanding that EA & the UFC change their video game representation of the overly sexualized female fighters.



The sexual objectification of Ronda Rousey in this game is atrocious.

Hmmm yes you're right an actual woman choosing to dress a certain way so as to better participate in a combat sport is the same as a dude drawing a fight lady in a short skirt

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

Those filthy men drawing and oppressing imaginary women!

Noted retard natetimm responding to arguments nobody made, at 11

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Unfunny Poster posted:

That image is of a video game character designed specifically in that way by a mostly male video game design team, not someone in real life.

Please tell me you can tell the difference, or have video games gotten so realistic you can't? :ohdear:

A video game character that is literally just not real person Ronda Rousey, totally the same as a bunch of dudes going yeah and then this lady should have big tits and a short skirt

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Ronda Rousey also super owns

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

Every single post you have made in this thread is calling someone who doesn't agree with you, mentally handicapped. It's almost as if I was 110% correct about you be a literal child.

Stop signing your posts

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

The argument that games are targeted towards men only is really flimsy and there's no evidence to support it. Game developers for the most part do not target gender. Its a myth that has held on somehow despite it never being true.

Correct, marketing demographics don't exist, males aged 18-24 are not a bigger target than females of the same age range

Jesus fuckin Christ

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Effectronica posted:

Actually, featuring a purple Predator from the movie series and calling her "Ronda Rousey" would probably not send the message that you were playing a representation of the martial artist Ronda Rousey in the game.

A predator is a good representation of Ronda Rousey actually

I said come in! posted:

Game developers have no reason to care who buys their games, as long as their games sell.

Do you have any idea at all how marketing works

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

I'm saying it doesn't matter. The music industry found this out in the late 19th century. For entertainment, targeting demographics is pointless.

Okay Negativo McWrongshit

I said come in! posted:

I watch a lot of game trailers and I can't recall a single one where I felt that it was specifically targeting men. They were entirely gender neutral marketing material.

We've already established that you're an idiot, stop beating that horse.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

You've yet to produce an ounce of evidence that shows i'm wrong. I'm not obligated to do the thinking for you.

The game where oorah manly man shoot a bunch of dudes is not targeted towards any one particular audience, as evidenced by the fact that there are women who play it, this is a thing you're saying and it's wrong

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Why not? Why does the fact that women like CoD mean that it can't have been targeted towards men? Is it because you were dropped on your head as a child?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

InsanityIsCrazy posted:

You've never played COD with girls before?

That wasn't the part I was saying was wrong, numbnuts

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

Maybe if you spent more time reading the thread instead of acting like a angsty teen on Tumblr, you would have saw that I said CoD is not targeting men

I did see that, and you're still a loving idiot

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
"Maybe if you read my posts you'd see that I said the thing that you're saying is wrong!!!!"

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo Here is marketing material for Call of Duty Black Ops where three women are shown in it. Do you really want to still continue arguing that Call of Duty is only marketed towards men??? REALLY??

Point to where I said the only target and not the primary target, champ

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

I said come in! posted:

Doesn't loving matter. You're moving the goal posts now that you are shown to be wrong.

How did you prove me wrong? You said that CoD isn't targeted towards men in particular, I called you an idiot, and then you kept saying the same thing insisting that repeating yourself was proof. When I pointed out that you were making up what I was saying, you claimed I was shifting the goalposts.

gently caress yourself

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
"CoD is primarily targeted towards, designed, and marketed with men in mind"

"BUt women play it too!"

B does not negate A you loving simpleton

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Zeitgueist posted:

It's outrage culture I tell you what.

its you you're the real racist

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
consenting adults participating in a sex act that presumably both of them enjoy? The Real Racism

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

Fall for outing you as someone who gets off on abusing black women for sexual pleasure? Do you think your consumption of video games made you this way?

I dont think it counts as abuse if the other person consents just a thought

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

Can a mentally ill person caught in a cycle of re-enacting their own abuse at the hands of a sadist truly consent?

Is everyone who enjoys bondage/pain-play/etc a victim of abuse or is it possible that they just enjoy it

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Which

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

So why does Z's ladyfriend have to be the former

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

It's funny that everyone wants to ask why people who consume video games would want to see sexualized characters and how terrible that is, but when someone wants to tie up a black woman and beat her for sexual gratification, they're like: Maybe they just like it, alright?

I too can't believe people defend consenting adults' ability to have sex in a way that they wish

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

That dude hates that white people even exist.

citation needed

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

He's a pretty funny example of tokenism. Polygon hired him as pretty much a click-bait magnet. He openly posts on Twitter that he has no idea what most games are, how they work, or what goes into making them. His one trick is bitching about white people constantly. He's also the only non-white person on a staff of about 20 and never says poo poo about it.

none of this supports the thing you said

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

KoldPT posted:

this thread is bad



so is the supreme court



and gamergate

The best comics are all written by people who loathe comics fans and the comics industry its cray

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Control Volume posted:

Alan Moore writes good comics, perhaps even the best comics, this theory seems to hold water.

Alan Moore's best stuff isn't borne from his hatred of the comics industry or his fans though

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

natetimm posted:

I think the big outrage was the removal of the variant cover that referenced the killing joke because it was "disempowering" to Batgirl.

pretty much everyone who thought that cover was a good idea was an idiot

"Hey we need a cool variant for the new issue of Batgirl. I know, let's reference the comic where she exists solely to be crippled"

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

turnways posted:

Isn't that the origin of the Oracle, a comic character a lot of disabled folks champion because it added disabled diversity to the DC cast?

Which they walked back on for the current Batgirl book

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

memy posted:

DC rejected the first draft of the variant cover for not being rapey enough, and then immediately and publicly caved to criticism after the reveal

If that doesn't sound like an obvious publicity stunt then I have a bridge to sell you. Be honest, how many of you knew there was a batgirl reboot before the controversy?

I've been reading a shitload of comics since I was 11 so me

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Bedlamdan posted:

Do you want to talk about comics? Deffo loving Marvel's new Master of Kung-Fu series, I hope it stays instead of getting cancelled like the end of every other reboot.

I'm p well tapped out of American comics right now. Working at a shop for two years burned me out

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Bedlamdan posted:

I also read Manga and translated european comics like Tintin and Asterix, I'm flexible.

Right now all I read on the reg is Shonen Jump and the reissues of Monster but I can hold Forth on plenty of stuff from before last summer

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
People who say "neo Puritan" and "secular moralist" are idiots

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Popular Thug Drink posted:

i know people keep throwing this accusation around, but as soon as aatrek was confirmed as a sexual abuser, he was permabanned. many other users have been permad for actual or cartoon child porn over the years. it is not permitted here

reddit still hems and haws about banning jailbait and other morally questionable things

Reminder that reddit had to be shamed into banning jailbait by goons and then the thread making the announcement had a nearly even split between up and down votes, with all the top rated comments being guys who were frothing at the mouth about not being able to jack off to kids

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Wulfolme posted:

If Youtube removed every video portraying a conservative presidential candidate in a positive light or promoting conservative candidates for state legislatures in August of 2016 because of tremendous negative feedback from a majority of their users, you wouldn't consider that a free speech issue. Yes or no?

And if MegaHitler came back tomorrow,

THis is a stupid what-if, particularly because legally speaking it's not a free speech issue

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Wulfolme posted:

Of course it's absurd. The point is that The Law and even plain old precedent can be used to justify absurd things whether you like it or not. You have to make decisions with the absurd in mind.


They're not legally prevented from doing it. But do you approve of them doing it? Do you really think that it's acceptable for a company with a near-monopoly on video hosting in this country to silence a political viewpoint because a lot of people don't want to hear it?

Do you really think that as long as someone can still shout something at people on a street corner, that their right to free speech has not been infringed?

You're right, nobody should ever tell anyone not to say anything.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Cardboard Box A posted:

ut there's one thing missing from this picture and it's that the one kind of speech reddit absolutely will crack down on with the fury of a thousand suns, it's doxxing. Don't believe me? Back when r/jailbait moderator violentacrez was outed by goons and doxxed by Gawker (yes Gawker), reddit responded by not only deleting all links to the article but quickly autodeleted every new link posted to any gawker article. THAT's how committed they were. So you better believe that when people start posting personal info, the mods and admins will go nuclear on it, even to the point of autodeleting every new post that even mentions her.


Reddit actually doesn't give a poo poo about doxxing except to pay lip service unless you're a friend of the admins/beloved member of their cesspool community. VA was the guy who ran most of the really gross subreddits, including multiple jailbait ones, and let's not forget how salty reddit was about losing those. The reaction to Chen's piece on VA wasn't because he was "doxxed" (he wasn't) it's because they were mad that gawker dared to attack this upstanding man who ran subreddits for jacking off to kids

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Reddit is against doxxing says the guy who doesn't remember the time redditors harassed a (former) Telltale employee because of that bullshit with the Jurassic Park jeep

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