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There's a more general issue with software when you ask 'why does x feature not exist.' Features don't exist by default. 'Is this feature good' is only the first step. There's also, 'do we have the time,' 'are there other features that are higher priority,' 'is this a feature that only one person wants, one person who may be using it as a talking point and not actually buying FIFA16 either way?'
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 03:37 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 18:20 |
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Anita's videos that I've watched are really bad. I've only watched a couple, the Hunger Games and the Beyond Good and Evil videos, because life is short. Most of what she says is basically "Beyond Good and Evil the book report" which is uncontroversial because it's just Cliff's Notes. The one point she made that is worth discussion, a female character saving a male character is not the same as the opposite, is left as a given without further statement. This makes me wonder if the people defending her videos have actually watched any because they are just bad.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 15:57 |
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Who What Now posted:The only defense of Anita's videos that I've seen are that their quality, or debatable lack thereof, are not deserving of the intense vitriol that she receives for them. Fair enough.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 16:02 |
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Jack Gladney posted:What is bad about them? Is there something mistaken in the claim that there are very different narrative associations in American media between a man saving a woman and a woman saving a man? This was kind of my point. Have you watched the video? Watch the video, and tell me if you were educated, enlightened or entertained.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 16:08 |
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SedanChair posted:When society demonstrates a sufficient understanding of feminism at the intro level, maybe she will post more advanced videos. Until then, it looks like intro level is what is needed. They aren't educational though because she takes anything about feminism that she says as a given, and flies past it to do more my first book report.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 16:14 |
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SedanChair posted:It is a given. If you're trying to educate someone on feminism, why would the one thing you say about feminism. If I put up a video about math, but the only thing I said about math was, "as we know the circumference of a circle is two pi radians," and then went on to talk about trains for something for another five minutes would that be a good math video?
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 16:20 |
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Ddraig posted:Here's the basic you need to know about Feminism in order to understand Anita's videos: That doesn't make the videos good. Is she preaching to the choir or educating the children because they're not appropriate for either. She can't be both doing feminism remediation and taking remedial points as a given.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 16:28 |
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Dr. Stab posted:I think that most people who are completely uneducated about feminism are still actually at the point where they think that women are people. The entirety of her videos is demonstrating the media depictions bit. What does that have to do with her videos being bad?
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 16:32 |
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Jack Gladney posted:What concepts in the videos are too sophisticated for a general audience? She neither goes in depth or builds upon any idea she presents. She should do one of these. I don't really care which, but she does neither.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 16:37 |
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I liked in Saint Row where Benjamin King treating you like a real rear end in a top hat for running people over after no one else gave a gently caress the entire game. That was a good game.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 19:21 |
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Dominic White posted:No, but it would be nice if the woman got some kind of character arc. When a character is purely a damsel in distress (background until kidnapped, motivation until rescued), that's pretty bad writing all round, and in the VAST majority of cases of such lazy writing, the character/furniture is a woman. She said the same thing about Jade in her Beyond Good and Evil video, and she was the main character, but apparently it still isn't okay for a man to rescue a woman.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 01:14 |
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She also criticized The Hunger Games movie because Katniss wasn't affected by Foxface's death the same way she was affected by Rue's, which is an odd opinion to have because Katniss never talked to Foxface and never bothered to learn her name. Anita is a spring of bad opinions.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 01:22 |
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Dominic White posted:For someone that you don't care about the opinions of, you seem to know approximately fifty times more about Sarkeesian's thoughts on things than I do or ever could want to. I've watched two of her videos; Beyond Good and Evil, Hunger Games. Both were bad, so I didn't watch more. e: and her "just because you profit from patriarchy does not mean..." keynote.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 01:33 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Are you seriously reducing yourself to attacking my avatar? That's an awfully razor thin distinction.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:27 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:How so? Critics point out issues with narratives and themes all the time. It doesn't mean they are demanding the wholesale extinction on their usage. People don't tend to call specific instances of a thing as 'embarrassing' without some implication that they want the thing to stop being done.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:30 |
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Plom Bar posted:If you're looking for justification to paint Sarkeesian as an Enemy of Art, I suppose it would be. Or perhaps just as a haver-of-bad-opinions.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:32 |
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Plom Bar posted:To borrow a catchphrase from today's youth, where is the lie in those tweets? The operative word is 'opinions'. You will notice I have not said her tweets should be banned, just that she should be embarrassed by them
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:37 |
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Plom Bar posted:Right. And I'm asking you why. Why should she be embarrassed by them? What is so wrong about them, divorced from your belief that she's actively calling for the banning of the trope? I haven't said at any point that she is trying to ban anything so I guess congrats on winning an argument that I wasn't participating in.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:43 |
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Wow. How is wanting people to stop doing a thing the same as calling for its ban? I can also draw razor thing distinctions.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:45 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Fair enough, I can see how sexualization might not be, but I think its hard to claim objectification in particular is not misogynistic. Objectification is the removal of a woman's personal agency and reducing her to an object meant for the pleasure of men. If that is not misogynistic, very few things are. I accepted your distinction, but when my argument requires the exact same distinction you don't accept it?
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:51 |
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Plom Bar posted:Fine. Ignore that last clause, then. What about the opinions expressed in those tweets is so wrong? That having a man rescue a woman is not intrinsically embarrassing.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:52 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:"This should be stopped" and "This should be banned" are synonymous. "This is embarrassing" and "this should never be done" are not. You are either deliberately trying to muddy the distinction between "embarassing" and "should be stopped" or genuinely do not see the gap between their intentions. "You should stop doing this" and "you should be stopped from doing this" are different things.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 02:57 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 18:20 |
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Plom Bar posted:....yes, actually. Speaking of an enemy of art.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2015 03:06 |