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alf_pogs posted:halfway through the film aren't they like "oh no it wasn't a map, it was a warning", which is even more baffling and insane. like why specifically warn them about those stars and point out exactly where they are MonsieurChoc posted:How the gently caress do you not like Halloween 3? CDHiggs posted:Pieces of Stonehenge! Microchips! Masks! Snakes and bugs! So uh let's make this post relevant to Alien: it's loving weird to me that, since Aliens, people expect these movies to have a straightforward plot. I guess they get fooled by the working-class protagonists in lived-in sci-fi settings? The Alien universe has always been a nightmare fever dream where images of rape, birth, death, religion, and machinery come together like a bolus of rattlesnakes. It's actually awesome when characters in Alien movies act like teenagers in 80s slasher movies.
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Covok posted:Hope this doesn't seem like a sudden change in subject, but has anyone ever examined some of the scripts that were floating around for Alien 3? Some were pretty out there. Like, monks on a wooden planet and an ancient religious book telling you how to remove the alien. Others had things like the space soviet union fighting the space USA with the Alien basically becoming the thing. One was just some pure shlock about the military trying to tame the alien. One was also set in a prison, but was a completely new cast. Most seemed like they were trying to not use Sigourney Weave. Possibly because her appearance in Alien cost 1 Million USD in 1980 dollars, I guess.
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May 23, 2017 19:50
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:No joke my favorite scene in the entire film. I recently watched Splice, and I think it's the sickest comedy I've ever seen.
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Guy A. Person posted:Oh absolutely. This is the scene where I "got it" and immediately started cracking up. Basebf555 posted:It really doesn't do action schlock very well and never has. The only time that's ever been successful is when Cameron was involved. It was a one-off lightning in a bottle situation. And I don't know where this comes from. The Dark Horse comics? The video games, more likely? Like how do you look at the Alien franchise and say "this is an action movie franchise" and be totally confused when the movies employ nightmare-logic instead of *~tactical realism~*. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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Jul 25, 2017 16:22
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Clearly, Hell is other people.
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Y'know I feel like Screamers was at least a good premise for a franchise.
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I mean if Screamers and Screamers 2 had been good movies, a series showing things from the androids' point of view would be a great continuation. KW Jeter's Blade Runner novels at least toyed with that.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:47
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When I read about the movies, they sounded awesome; I pictured the Screamers as being like whirring spiders made of blades. Instead they're bulky contraptions that make it look like soldiers are being attacked by old power tools, which looks funny and pretty much ruins the movies for me.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:In literally every Alien franchise movie, the survivor characters come into close contact with the aliens while not wearing a helmet, and still make it to the end of the film. Even better idea: the Space Marines are a multicultural cast of drone operators who bomb the aliens to dust by tweeting.
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Aug 15, 2017 20:15
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I think part of the reason I never watched Pandorum is the aggressively meaningless title and box art that didn't distinguish it from everything else on super-sale at dying Blockbuster franchises.
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Aug 15, 2017 20:54
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This is a shot in the dark, but I remember SMG mentioning one of a zillion B-movies with "Alien" in the title, about a man transforming into an alien monster, and culminating in his lover saving him by torching him with a flamethrower. Anyone know what I'm talking about? There are too many alien body-horror movies for me to just go digging through Wikipedia. Oh, and have we ever discussed Carnosaur in this thread? If not, why not? It's an incredibly cheap Corman joint, but rather than being a gory take on Jurassic Park, it's loosely based on a James Tiptree story and does a shocking circuit through the anxieties over the tyranny of biology and sex present in her work.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Transformations, AKA Alien Transformations (1988, d.p. Sergio Salvati of Zombie, Puppetmaster, Ghoulies 2 & The Beyond). quote:Only really watchable if you like Z-Grade horror,
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Aug 16, 2017 02:18
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I can't find that video showing all the visual references in Prometheus to Erich von Daniken type stuff.
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Got my Blu-Ray copy of Alien: Covenant yesterday and rewatched. Like Prometheus, it rewards a second and third viewing. I think I'll watch the extras tomorrow night in a double-feature with those Blompfkampf indie films on YouTube.Paolomania posted:There is nothing mysterious at all about people who want guilt-free war porn. But I think I figured it out: I've often heard the Alien movies equated with zombie movies. (Which isn't entirely wrong; at least the people doing this have identified a motif of metamorphosis rather than mere consumption.) And zombie movies are definitely subjects of people's desire for war porn where they use heavy weaponry to slaughter a horde of subhumans. What's more subhuman than a person who's been transformed into a xenomorphic drone?
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In Prometheus, David appears to be an abused child recreating the circumstances of his abuse as an externalized set-piece that he can explore and control, much like Sarah Polley's character in Splice. In Covenant that aspect of his character is recurring, but David's personality seems to embody humankind as pure Product. He values music and civilization as abstract concepts, but doesn't give a fig for that first Cro-Magnon blowing through a reed. Humankind is "unworthy of their creation," regardless of the fact that they created him. For me, the germ of horror in Alien is Giger's: Life is a cycle of birth-sex-death. All the lived experience that comes in between, all the physical characteristics of a human body, are just details, a pulpy afterbirth that is discarded in the metamorphosis into a sleek black alien form. So Covenant doesn't discard Alien's premise at all; that premise is the main character's obsession. I believe this is why Taintrunner characterized the movie as a journey into the depths of Ridley Scott's psyche, etc.: because there is a character in the diegesis, in fact the main character, orchestrating this process and vocalizing his enshrinement of it. I'm still baffled by his statement regarding a "kind world." That it's a specific reference to Byron is a little hard to swallow. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:You really obviously have no idea what you are talking about.  eXistenZ came out in '99But that's not the actual problem with their statement, which is the idea of hiring various auteur directors to fill various roles like ordering a combo platter. It's to be expected, though, when so many people appear to review movies by preparing a checklist of TVTropes and grading the movie on how well it met their expectations.
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well why not posted:I want Eastern Promises except with Xenos. Played 100% straight, just recast all the Russians (bar Viggo) as Giger monstrosities. Give them subtitles but have everyone speak to them in English or Russian.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYtQmayyDLA I think this video Taintrunner posted was the perfect answer to my question: some people want an Alien film to be a shoot-em-up because shoot-em-up video games have been ripping off Alien for decades. I don't know or care about Alien: Isolation, but I'm a little disappointed he didn't mention Alien Syndrome or Project:Firestart. The latter was a suspense-driven adventure game, and from the Commodore 64 era no less! Gaz2k21 posted:Do this but with Contamination.... quote:Keep the original score.
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Now I'm watching the Covenant extras. Some of this is really on the nose; the extended prologue with David/Weyland especially. Oh, and Walter describing David as "like meeting a distant you." I love smoking and watching Alien movies and suddenly Walter pulls out a few joints. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Cronenberg from Dead Ringers on seems like he would include a more blunt and gross sexual pun, as funny as that line is. precision posted:Which in a roundabout way brings me to something I noticed in the RLM review (and many other people have said it); complaining that people wanted Covenant to explain why the Engineers were planning on wiping out humanity. An entire film about humans being utter dipshits and failures is all the explanation that's needed, I feel.
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precision posted:e: It occurs to me that Naked Lunch is David Cronenberg's Alien movie. Hell, it even has the black goo. This might require some further thought when I'm more high
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K. Waste posted:The cool thing is that in Requiem, the matriarchal warrior is the Predalien.
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A peculiar thing about the short film is that Shaw's fate was apparently far less horrible than what you're lead to imagine from viewing Covenant.remigious posted:My ultra simplistic reading of the meaning of that phrase is that David grew to hate humanity because Weyland was a dick to him. If humans could be kind on the new world, maybe the new world would treat them kindly. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Er... really? The movie made it look like she was vivisected and harvested for organs, and Advent reveals that she was, in fact... vivisected and harvested for organs.
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Ferrinus posted:The big takeaway from the Prometheus movies is that the xenomorph is this multifarious, demonic avatar of fecundity rather than a discrete species of bug with a predictable life cycle.
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chiasaur11 posted:The irony of the film is that Deckard's human, hunting and killing replicants because they have no empathy. In this process, he kills without blinking an eye. Then he hunts down Roy Batty, the alpha killer, and Roy spares him for no reason except basic human kindness. The thing that humans used as an excuse for cruelty is as empty as these things always are, and yes, it's almost a cliche at this point, but it's still a purpose to the arc. The thought of torturing a turtle is upsetting to me, but the test focuses on Leon's biological responses. I have no idea what my eyeball looks like when I am asked to imagine torturing a turtle.
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I really love it when people complain that some evil empire in a movie or a video game is irrational. If you were writing a Star War or a Throne Game or some other such genre property and you modeled the principal nation on U.S. foreign policy, every pop-cultural YouTube would be tripping over their own dicks to call you out as the worst writer in history.
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Xenomrph posted:I keep harping on it, but if Blomkamp has a mailing address or something I will mail him a copy of Aliens: Labyrinth on my dime.   
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It's like an Alien movie and Whedon's outline for Firefly mashed together.
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well why not posted:The three female leads from Firefly:
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NarkyBark posted:The only scene in Resurrection that really worked for me was the discovery of the clone lab. Wonderfully creepy. The rest of it misfires in so many ways. Left: You're gonna die Right: Now you're playing Simon! Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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Crimpolioni posted:I've run into the idea (only on science fiction forums, for reason) that by doing death of the author type interpretations one is trying to 'steal' control of the work away from the author and its not only an arrogant but fundamentally immoral act. Takes all kinds, I guess. Low Desert Punk posted:nerds are loving insane, what else is new Invalid Validation posted:I bet Star Trek writers did the same thing each episode.
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Neo Rasa posted:Every single character in the movie got exactly what they passionately asked for.
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There's an official book that says they were both convicted of murder as juveniles. That's if you want to treat a 2014 book written by a different person as "canon" to Aliens.
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A backstory in which people rebelling against the system were turned into its murder-drones would certainly be in line with the themes of the film
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People often recreate the circumstances of their childhood abuse in a more-or-less controlled environment. It's a major part of Splice--a lot of which is subtly, darkly humorous, but this theme is made clear in a scene that's not at all played for laughs.
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Fish Noise posted:I want to see a Predator's trophy wall lit just so that it takes a moment for everyone to realize it's all biomechanical dongs and tits
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CelticPredator posted:The cool thing with Predator and us fans is that even if a film is bad, the Predators themselves are pretty alright. All the AvP predators look neat, Wolf is super popular still, even that Batman vs AvP Red Predator looks super awesome.
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Xenomrph posted:Counterpoint:
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Is there any merit at all in Forbidden World, or is it only memorable for the gratuitous nudity?
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