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Then wait for it to drop.
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Aug 15, 2015 07:26
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In Training is going to have a lot of posts to catch up on.
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Aug 15, 2015 07:38
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Tsubasa's problem is she's a very earnest, straight-forward person who only thinks in the short term. As a team member she'd be a valuable asset, but in a leadership position she's just a liability.
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Aug 15, 2015 23:32
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I dont know how much of an asset she's actually been to the team though. She's openly disregarded orders and pleas from other team members and does her own thing without regard to the consequences. She tends to fully ignore what people are trying to tell her with their best intentions, she just goes "Nope this is right because look here its working" "I didn't do the right thing? How could helping people ever not be the right thing? I don't get it." My point was she has the potential to be useful, but not in the position to which she has promoted herself.
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Aug 16, 2015 02:47
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It's righteous anger, I think. Both times she's transformed it's been in response to some manner of perceived injustice (not that they weren't legitimate injustices). As for why JJ picked her, I think we're going to need to finish the show to discern that. He certainly had his reasons for picking Hajime.
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Aug 16, 2015 19:35
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A good avatar, but you should've waited. .jpeg knows how to make the backgrounds invisible.
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Aug 18, 2015 10:07
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Fair enough.
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Aug 18, 2015 11:17
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He'd better not skip Paiman.
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Aug 19, 2015 02:33
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a kitten posted:Yeah for reals
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Aug 20, 2015 04:01
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If he ends up doing JJ that box better end up oblong.
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Aug 21, 2015 11:18
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If Paiman doesn't get a sprite I'm gonna rename this thread the Paiman Appreciation Station.
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Aug 22, 2015 00:40
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Looking forward to Hajime and crew talking to somebody off-screen the audience is never permitted to see.
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Aug 31, 2015 07:19
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Imagine a picture of me applauding here, but with sincerity.
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Aug 31, 2015 08:02
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Yuru-jii getting real about Japan and WWII was both cool and surprising. Usually they just kinda sweep that under the rug in my experience, so for him to just straight up say "we just went along with it and did some regrettable poo poo" was pretty impressive.
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Sep 13, 2015 04:01
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Crimes against fashion and humanity.
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Sep 13, 2015 18:38
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Valhawk posted:This is really interesting. It sort of makes me wonder if there has ever really been an attempt in an even slightly mainstream anime to address the Japanese occupation of China or other Japanese war crimes either literally or metaphorically/figuratively?
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Sep 13, 2015 21:22
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Darth Walrus posted:I thought Arakawa said that was more about the genocide of the Ainu? So similar, but not quite the same. Even if they didn't, however, Valhawk asked for a mainstream anime commenting on "Any" Japanese war crimes, and I would certainly consider genocide committed against a particular group of people to fall under that umbrella.
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Sep 13, 2015 21:39
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Finally got caught up on this and Yuru-jii's speech was good. His description of the Japanese getting wrapped up in the "Flow" of war actually mirrors the sentiment found in a lot of letters and diary entries from that time period. Lots of writing about feeling adrift in a war that had simply become the state of things. One diary entry in particular I'll always remember belonged to a low-ranking officer who went on and on for paragraphs complaining about his superiors and the commanders and his country and the war, only to close with "But we're at war and I'm a soldier, so I can only execute my duties while keeping my thoughts in my head." Or something to that effect. Lots of people wishing for the war to end with no conception of how that might be possible. Even a couple expressing hope for Japan's defeat. One guy was so lost in the haze of war he didn't even think "Peace" existed. Which is to say, someone who in their youth was romanced by Japanese militarism and nationalism and "Woke up" from the dream would probably talk about their experiences the way Yuru-jii does. I didn't want to say anything earlier cause I hadn't seen the episode, but yeah, sorry Walrus, your post was kinda overblown. While I don't think Gatchaman was intended to function as a historical allegory, even if it was it's clear that Tsubasa's grandfather is talking from a personal perspective, not a grand, overarching, "But you see the people in charge-" perspective. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Sep 20, 2015 21:50
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Insight is good, unlike Darth Walrus' fixation on WWII allegories.
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Sep 21, 2015 02:00
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Sep 21, 2015 09:28
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Updating the world, BRB. 0% complete, 24 hours remaining.
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Sep 21, 2015 10:36
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100% complete, world updated. Post The Thread.
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Sep 22, 2015 08:44
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Allarion posted:Good ending, good show. .jpg posted:Gatcha!
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Sep 27, 2015 03:11
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I definitely feel like JJ is sometimes underappreciated. Rather than rejecting his guidance and authority, usually brought up as a proxy for rejecting a "God" figure, I feel like the Gatchaman have simply learned better than to wait for his instructions. They know what they're supposed to do, what they've been empowered by him to do; their mistake was waiting on some kind of divine sign to propel them forward when, really, they already had all the tools they needed. JJ's selection of Hajime in season one was most likely intended to transform the Gatchamen from a reactive force to a proactive one.
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Sep 27, 2015 06:38
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Apparently X was the "Villain" of the third season of the original Gatchaman, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to address those concerns with the next installment of Crowds (assuming there is one).
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Nov 12, 2015 22:15
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