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New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Can I get some friend requests from fast goons? I need more times to compete against :getin:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/_sneakyness/

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New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Do we know the actual maximum length of a track? Full pikes peak is what, 22.500m? I think the longest Finland stages are around 14.500m.

I really, really just want to beat on one of those bone stock Porsche Cayennes they have parked on the side of most tracks :3:

Hopefully Codemasters doesn't sweat themselves too much over whatever frills they think this DiRT was missing that a "DiRT 4" would need. I would happily pay full price for another helping of tracks and cars in the same drat engine. I almost feel guilty that I got this for like $22.50 or whatever when they first started the early access.

Okay, I take that back… I'd like to have a track editor or some sort of procedural endless driving mode. That's it don't change nothin else

Haven't been able to play, waiting for all my poo poo to get moved to my new place (on the other side of the country). It gets here tomorrow morning, I'm not even unpacking anything else I just want to DiRT

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Why don't I ever see any of you nerds on the daily/weekly challenge leaderboards? You're slacking!!! :whip:

I'm rusty, and I have an awesome blister on my thumb from grabbing a 375º oven rack, but I still managed to be the 4th fastest American up Pikes Peak today in the rain! (Fastest with a controller because I'm an alien :hehe:)



Still looking for the quicklike goons, posthaste :getin: http://steamcommunity.com/id/_sneakyness/

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Only took me 400 hours, but I've finally beaten dirt rally

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Well, I just broke 400 hours. I can't tell if they keep making the game easier, or I keep getting faster.

This is my first time driving using a traditional monitor since VR came out. VR is fun but this game absolutely does benefit from >100fps framerates

Oh, btw, in VR, try playing without resolution scaling, and instead go for 4x or 8x MSAA. It seems like some visual effects (mainly related to cockpit reflections and lighting) are gated behind having one of those options selected.

Please beat my garbage times on Monte Carlo, they're all top 20-30. No such thing as a perfect run, so there's definitely some slop in all 4 runs.

60s - 2:42.376
80s - 2:36.743
Group B AWD - 2:25.194
2000s - 2:26:860






All attempts (and some failures) here (it's 2k Twitch stream so it's compressed to poo poo, forgot to bump that up after they raised their limits!)

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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How many miles have you driven? https://www.dirtgame.com will tell you under racenet stats. I'm @ 9,720mi, with 700 events completed :eyepop:

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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You're killing your average speed dude! It's lower than 20mph, need to :gitgud: (and also imperial like god intended)

Seriously though, add me on steam I tend to do the daily challenges pretty often

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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RallyCameraman making things look easy as usual

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTuYV_y5F2E

:eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop:

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Read the descriptions for each option and adjust as necessary to suit desired driving style

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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I'm not at all interested in the modern stuff unless it's hillclimb. Give us ALL of the old cars

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Aug 29, 2008

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Qmass posted:

the group bs all go too fast flat out and have bad brakes

this is literally the definition of fun, if I'm not fighting for my life I don't want it


Jumped into the wager event yesterday, nothing stresses me out like a full length Sweden track. While the banks do bother me, they really nailed the actual "feel" of driving on snow IMO. It stresses me out in the exact same way as driving in snow IRL. I drove like poo poo, still ended up in the top 100 / 5th in USA. I did get away with this (audio is low because of hasty recording) When in doubt, throttle out :getin:


Edit: All the brakes on the old cars will lock up like crazy, you need to repeatedly let go and rebrake when the wheels lock if you expect to hit your shifts (assuming youre not using the clutch)

Look at this loving dog

https://twitter.com/flashman/status/770393232945446913

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Aug 29, 2016

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Squeaked into Top 100 for the Weekly Group A event in Wales 8)



Full run here: https://www.twitch.tv/sneakyness_912/v/87664406?t=15m32s

Xbone controller, no tune, no assists, close chase cam :v:

I've had people claim it's an advantage (the camera), but I get the same times as using in car, and VR. I just like looking at the scenery, Wales is real pretty

Personal review: a handful of stupid crashes, but nailed all of the corners I usually gently caress up on. A+ throttle modulation :golfclap:

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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RWD Group B in Wales in the Rain makes for a good daily challenge, I think my time is at 88th now

https://www.twitch.tv/sneakyness_912/v/88896908?t=02m15s Now in 60fps goodness, AND you have to listen to my poor choice in music (I don't use pacenotes)

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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I did the new weekly challenge right away so you have all week to try and beat it, it's top 40 right now, that'll probably float up a bit by the end of the week

It's Group B (AWD) in Greece, lots of fun

https://www.twitch.tv/sneakyness_912/v/88964888?t=38s

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Thel posted:

So I've started doing the monthly and have run into a hilarious bug

I've got the same thing happening if you're in the monthly right now. Repeatedly dipping into my extended repair time just to stay with the pack. Never had to do that in my DiRT career so I'm going to assume it's either somehow way more hardcore than usual, or an awesome bug. I didn't really feel that I was driving aggressively, which was frustrating. These sorts of things would be marginally better if they would give us some form of heads up, even just a vague "something is different!"



That said, there is a :frogsiren: Special Event Today & Today Only to remember Colin McRae



It's under Career > Online Events > Bottom Right

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Nice! I felt the most "Colin" thing to do was to use the oldest car



Think I ended up just outside the top 200 at the end of the day, I saw that Wanderer89 beat me for once! That fancy steering wheel might be good for something after all :haw:

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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That's a nice jump

El Hefe posted:

The Lancia 037 Evo 2 is the devil's car holy poo poo how are you supposed to keep that car going straight?

Like most mid-engined cars, only let go of the throttle if you want/need to spin

Qmass posted:

Wonder what they finished :O

Saw a few other DiRT people sending around WRC 2017 Test-drive videos, if I had to guess it'd be more of those. Hopefully they work in at least a few more old cars, too

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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El Hefe posted:

The Lancia 037 Evo 2 is the devil's car holy poo poo how are you supposed to keep that car going straight?

I did a run on my favorite stage w/ the overlay on, maybe this will help? https://www.twitch.tv/sneakyness_912/v/91291570 Ended up being a top 20 global run :stare:

Next time I'll use the green BG so the overlay chroma keys better, kind of hosed up the stream a bit.

I like to try and do a stage somewhere with rain first when I'm trying to get used to the RWD Group B cars, that way I'm extra afraid of being stupid with the gas. If I'm really having trouble I'll go for a longer final gear ratio by 1 or 2 pips, but this kind of gimps you in some recovery situations

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Sep 25, 2016

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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DiRT Rally is 50% off on Steam

http://steamcommunity.com/app/310560

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New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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It's nice to see some new names in the thread! Leagues are kind of poo poo anyways TBQH, the daily/weekly/monthly challenges are great. Especially the Daily's, you can go see your ~CREST TELEMETRY~ or whatever the hell on their website, which is pretty neat.


Just threw down a 7:38.414 up Pikes Peak in the Modern class, good for 98th globally



then I pulled a 2:18.544 on my favorite Monte Carlo course, good for 8th globally \o/



I was drunk the entire time, don't let anyone tell you drinking and driving is bad heh


Maybe it's October speaking, but I kind of wish this game had ghosts. Never thought about it until now but a racing game w/o ghosts is kind of hosed

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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^^^ They had horizon lock turned off which is a really cruel thing to do to someone who has never experienced rally racing before. If you don't know where to look you're going to make yourself sick as hell. Also they picked some of the most violent courses lmao

Qmass posted:

To go fast, when you turn in do you turn more aggressively than you need then catch the oversteer or is it just really fine inputs with weight shifts ? I have a feeling I have done so much rally with aggressive steering that I turn the wheel too much and need to really change my approach.

IMHO that is a "bad" habit you picked up from driving all of the modern stuff, where the cars respond to that really well because they're kind of underpowered and chunky, but the brakes and suspension are great (I loving hate it)

Did you have a specific track type/car in mind?

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Double posting 'coz I snagged 8th up Rainy Gravel Pikes Peak in the Daily Challenge today! Always honored to end up on the same page as RallyCameraman (a literal rally cameraman who also drives IRL)



When I actually do really well like this, I like to head over to their website to tick the "My Nationality" and then "Controller" buttons to see myself as both the fastest American & fastest controller racer :911:





I also got like 56th or something in the Finland event, meh

I see that twitch now has a beta uploading feature, probably going to experiment more with full quality local recordings and uploading after the fact.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Is that you?! I'd be so pissed lmao what a way to lose your rear end (did rears lock up first under braking there or what?)

:negative: So jealous of the lady co-driver, it's so much easier to hear her voice!!

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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I don't even like R4 (from soon-to-be-yesterday's Daily Wager Event)



I'm confident my success in DiRT Rally is a good indicator that I should pursue race car driving more seriously :smug: (kidding but only a little bit hey Codies sponsor me tia)

Seriously though, if you just play the Daily Challenges every single day, often less than 20 minutes of driving, you will get extremely good. I'm on a streak of ~3 weeks right now and am really happy with my growth as a driver

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Oct 5, 2016

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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The tire tracks on the hills are generally a decent indicator of which direction you want to throw yourself, took me a while to pick those up

Thank you, daily challenge, for reminding me how poo poo the F2 Kit Cars are, also Sweden. I'm probably just looking for something to blame but I feel like if they could have really nailed down the soft banks/terrain the game would have benefited from it a lot.

On the upside I did get a new PB on Modern Pikes Peak, wound up being 0.200s faster, now 95th global

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Calling all scrubs: The Pugeot 406 T16 is pretty awesome too, it also happens to be the current selection for the DAILY CHALLENGE :getin:

8:52.595 is the time to beat (mine)

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Qmass posted:

edit2: ok now this thing is making sense



:smug:



I spun out twice, too

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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:argh: WANDERERRRRRRRRRRRRR



Got like a 140 with a reset, saw the 05, had to give it another go. Laid down a blazing run, then managed to do this within throwing distance of the finish line :negative:



Imagine the A110 w/ a proper LSD and a sequential gearbox, it'd be SO FAST



Love big spreads

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Oct 19, 2016

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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70s RWD all have enough power to throttle oversteer in any gear, and in general are far more sensitive to camber. "Steering with the throttle" is really important.

Once you sense that you're starting to lose your rear end, completely let off the gas (you should already be countersteering), then ease back on

The escort is the "hardest" because it weighs the most and also has the most power/torque, but what makes it hard is the gearing. The 2nd-3rd timing is unconventional and if you aren't really mindful of it to half-rear end the gas on upshift it'll spin you right round

I took them all out for a spin on my favorite track to compare them all, came within 3/10ths of my 21st Global

:negative:



I also forgot that the Kadett sounds like it's inhaling gravel, what a glorious sound :allears:

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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All of my times are with default tunes. :vince: Learn to race without tuning your car, as they don't allow that in most of the daily/weekly/monthly challenges. Have a rant (feel free to skip this):

Tuning is a waste of time. Drive better. Think about how you can use the oversteer to your advantage, drive differently to anticipate or prevent that from happening when you don't want it (countersteer and or less gas). Remember that the tires work best when they're only doing one thing at a time (You get to choose between steering, braking, and accelerating)

Try finishing a few stages without pressing the gas all the way down. Watch some WR youtubes with telemetry overlays and notice how sometimes they actually aren't using gas/brake at all, and just steering. Being really smooth on the throttle eliminates unnecessary gear shifts, which will completely change the timing of a lot of sections and make you a lot faster.

IMHO, unless you've got a top 20 global time and you're looking for those 3/10ths, theres not much point in tuning. It's tuning, not change the entire behavior of the car.

You can try making the gear ratio a little longer, but all that's doing is further encouraging you to hamfist the gas instead of applying proper throttle modulation.

I think the best thing for you to do would be spend like an hour doing nothing but rainy/misty/overcast Monte Carlo and Germany stages, then switch back to dry. It should just "click" after that

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Or just, you know, learn how to drive lol

All the time you spend tuning is time you could have spent driving

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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^ That's loving sick, do you have video?

Honestly, if you are 100% concerned with going fast and not bending the car to suit "your needs" :gay:, your time is better spent memorizing all the off camber spots and cuts on your favorite stages. Stop listening to the co-driver





Started drinking wwwwway before I remembered to do the daily challenges, probably could have snagged first in either if I was sober lol. Drove right into the same wall both times, depth perception am gud

FWIW, the one I got 12th in is an Owners Club event with the 70s Opel, Owners Club events are unusual in that tunes are allowed. So if they're so useful feel free to post a faster time you have 6 hours :smug: /s

I finally remembered to switch to 4500kbps, so you can actually see what I'm doing now: https://www.twitch.tv/sneakyness_912/v/96403347

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Thanks for the heads up. loving hate Sweden. All I can think about when I drive on it, is what it would be like if they could have gotten the deforming terrain/snow banks right (they pulled this feature after promising it). I like to think it bothers them a lot too, as I play a furious game of "don't. loving. touch. the. sides."

These will definitely go lower on the leaderboard by the end of the day





I wish I had the balls to throw a 7:30 down on Modern Pikes Peak :catstare:

Obs ate my audio again, oh well

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Events are meh today, snagged ~40th with the Manta



Mostly reminded me how much fun the 400 is, revisited my favorite stage and took my ~22nd global time up to 8th. Still on a default tune!!!!



I know better than to expect any more cars or anything, but it would be extremely cool if they gave us Ken Block's latest monster just to tear up all the existing content with. I don't want a drift mode or any ghymkhana garbage, just give me his car

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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n-thing turn off all assists. Also if you haven't setting sensitivity to 100 and linearity to 0 in Advanced Gamepad Settings makes the game much easier to control (if you are a gamepad user like me)

It's rear-engined, if you want the car to rotate you have to let off the gas, which unloads the rear suspension (because it's also rear wheel drive), and that upward "bounce" done in conjunction with a turning motion will spin your booty right round

Here's a decent Alpine run I did just now (no sound I had music on), was good for 20th or so (and I beat Qmass!) https://www.twitch.tv/sneakyness_912/v/98220531?t=04m48s



E: wasn't satisfied, went back and did it again



Still scrubbed off a lot of speed in inappropriate places. Not crashing is extremely important because a few extra mph of average speed can be the difference between retaining momentum/speed through a tight turn, and having to downshift all slow like

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Oct 31, 2016

New Zealand can eat me
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I'm Crap posted:

Wow, this unupgraded '95 Impreza is an incredibly terrible fat pig of a car, Jesus Christ.

It has the, if not one of the widest turning radii in the game. You're going to be using a lot of handbrake to get that rear end around

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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As far as controllers go, I think the Xbone controller is fantastic, it's what I use.

I'm Crap posted:

It's also slooooooooowwww (before the upgrades). Drive up the steep hill after the first hairpin at Waldabstieg in second and the engine feels like it's going to stall. I kept downshifting into neutral on one stage because it had no pick-up or responsiveness at all, even in first.

Use the clutch instead (you will have to enable it if you haven't). Really though you should be trying to figure out how to be more carlos santana (loving smooth), and carry more momentum into that section. A straight line is rarely the fastest path

I have no idea where to start with snow driving. I grew up driving in it, so Sweden feels a bit like some of my previous morning commutes.

- Use way way way less throttle. Upshift early and often, the bigger ratios will stop your drive wheels from breaking loose so much, and you will go much, much faster than you were prepared for.
- As far as stopping goes, never ever ever ever try to stop and turn at the same time on snow, it's just not going to work. Depending on the drivetrain, engine braking/downshifting can be surprisingly effective and will lend itself well to the type of slides you are trying to make, assuming the weight of the car is "correct" and the camber of the track is not fighting to upset that
- The handbrake is your friend, try to think about what the wheels will do when you're sliding sideways, if they're rolling forward at a given speed, vs locked into place. The advanced version of this is really "steering with the throttle", sometimes you want to gun it a bit to break the wheels loose more, and other times you need to "eat" some of your momentum so you let go of the throttle and let movement turn into revs

Really though. Sweden is miserable. It's really, really pretty, but just not fun. I wouldn't sweat spending too much time on it. It's like the opposite of bumper bowling

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Once it really started clicking for me, that you can set yourself up to abuse the camber of the environment to manipulate the weight/motion of the car, Wales became one of my favorites.

Try to force yourself to accept camber as an advantage to be leveraged, a "force multiplier" if you would, instead of some sort of speed bump or obstacle to merely mitigate.

If you have the heart for it, force yourself to race the same track 5+ times (preferably something short so you don't hate yourself) without spinning out, crashing, or recovering the car. Just rest immediately and start over if you do. it's not so much that you need to memorize the specifics of every track, moreso it's to "train your eyes" so that you know where to anticipate to look to see the opportunities.


:argh: gotta catch Wander

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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loving. Wanderer. .333 this time



I got him on the way back down tho

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New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

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Humbug posted:

I don't get how you are that fast with a controller New Zealand. I briefly tried Group B with a 360 controller, and I was immediately in all the ditches. Props.

I'm an alien.

Seriously though, sensitivity to 100 and linearity to 0 is extremely important in making the game not handle like complete trash.

In other news, :argh: SAME loving TIME GODDAMNIT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO BEAT THIS FOR MONTHS



You're creepin up on us Humbug I'm a little scared

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Dec 5, 2016

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