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Irony Be My Shield posted:Tyrant's Throes does look wonderfully oppressive, I remember how miserable anti-summoning floodgates can be. Is Rescue Rabbit->those rank 4 dinosaurs still a good enough thing to be doing? They seem good if the gameplan is to try and lock the opponent out. Also is Heart of the Underdog actually fast enough to work in the current game? Dino Rabbit is pretty much dead. While still playable if you don't see laggia turn 1 you're probably going to either hide behind backrow or pray you draw into rabbit/gold sarcophagus. Rabbit got limited which kinda hurt real bad. A friend of mine tries to make dino rabbit work in today's banlist era but when he plays against me I just kinda run him over with Infernoids.
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Lisandra_brave posted:He's playing normal pendulums. He can poo poo two dinos onto the field easy with the power of pendulums. Oh neato. I wasn't sure if this was actually a thing but I guess it is
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Turbo towers is going to be a thing for qli players and will top that list non-stop. Tellarknights are hardly the problem.
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Beef Chief posted:I swear to god if the next banlist happens and Dante and Cir are not unlimited, I am going to loving kill someone. You're going to jail (both of those are likely, plus dante to 2  )
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Oh. A monarch with actual reason to stay on the field than being a beatstick after popping its effect. mega mobius and mega caius are really good
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Cabinet posted:I say all this without playing since March. I really want to get back into it but I have no irl friends to play with I have irl friends and tournaments that are local.  ...I haven't won in a while though. Locals are crowded with Nekroz 
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BurritoJustice posted:Is there a reason that nobody seems to use Nephe Shaddoll Fusion? It is more niche than the other two fusions, but being able to pick any of the fusions as long as you have at least one shaddoll on the field and one in your hand (which you basically always have), seems pretty useful. A more consistent way of summoning El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis for sure. E: WOOP BEATEN Double Edit: Grysta also wrecks Ritual Beast (inherent contact-fusing) which is super frustrating to play against Koguma fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Lisandra_brave posted:Rank 4 is cancer.
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You don't play the BA fusion, it's just 3 dante and 1 virgil (maybe two). rubic's the other (kinda) money card. rest of the extra is just rank 3s and downerd unless you're playing rank up stuff.
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You have way too many traps for a shaddoll deck. Consider running 2 denko and getting rid of compulse, for one. I'd also run one core, since you're not running the fire fusion. You only have one real target for core (unless you're synchroing for star eater), and despite grysta being pretty good, nobody really plays him. you also have a good amount of targets for shek (you could also put in maxx "c" for her) also I'd recommend armades over samsara. goyo is really up to you, I prefer HTS psyhemuth or nothung the starlight. but 2800 level 6 is still really good.
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BurritoJustice posted:I run two cores both because of the two card synchro for star eater and the graveyard effect. Fusing a core and another shaddoll and then getting your fusion card back is really useful, so is sending core with squamata if you need a fusion card in a pinch. I do have a grysta that I'm seriously considering running, it was crazy effective against my mates pendulum deck when I played him on devpro. I'd probably drop either samsara or a shek for Grysta. I'm seriously considering maxx "C", though I feel I'd clog a lot with earth fusion targets though unless I drop a math. Fair call on the traps though, I have compulse/bottomless/torrential etc just because ~staples~. I should probably drop some of the traps for more dolls cards but I don't really know what would be best there. I'd go two denkos but I don't really want to drop another $20 on one, so I am considering a thunder king rai oh. Rai-oh is great, yeah, can't go wrong there. Denko is getting a reprint soon in the tins so you might as well wait, I suppose. edit: you can drop the bottomless, compulse and ring (I haven't liked ring since its errata) for a third mistake, another beast (great in the mirror for when you have a fusion out, you can just tribute set beast so you don't leave a face-up extra deck card out), and allure of darkness (unless you really don't like banishing dolls) or just 3 upstart goblins! consistency's never a bad thing. 
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BurritoJustice posted:Can I ask why you think the traps don't suit the deck? They seem quite useful to me to have the reactionary plays, and they seem quite popular in the competitive dolls decks I've seen online too. Just curious. most of the traps you see in that deck I made are live most of the time and we flipped up on your opponent's standby or reacting to a search card attempt (mistake; against nekroz and tellar, somewhat ritual beast) you'll be using core to fuse or chump block, and shadow games is a themed foolish burial that you might plus off of if you have set dolls. the staple traps usually will have to wait for your opponent to make a play, which means they'll be set for a majority of the time, and this will turn off denko, which is your main way of breezing through backrow since you don't run more than 1 dragon right now. vanity's is still good though, making a huge board and flipping vanity's is basically "what do I do???? no mst? *scoop*" but sometimes you can lock yourself out. It's up to you, don't let me tell you how to play, if you have success with your build then you might just have your build suited to your tournament scene which differs everywhere. most builds I've seen are trapless somewhat and only have core and mistake and don't even run shadow games. I personally think it's good, though.
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Burning Abyss and Infernoid slaughter nekroz. EDIT: but they still kinda beat everything else :T Koguma fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Sep 9, 2015 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Well this card is BA in all but name. Infernoid also
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went to a 400-man 9 round regional playing performage shaddoll. I went 6-3 I largely beat the mirror match losing only one game, but no matches to it; which some builds were star seraph and some were performage. mind control put in work. I played only 1 BA but got destroyed by it, didn't have a decent hand either game while the BA player had vanity's both times. he was later DQ'd for cheating so I actually got the win. faced tellarknights twice, one of them was a friend that goes to my locals and I otk'd him both games, I felt really bad. the other tellar player I lost to when he opened shadow mirror and constellar diamond both games. played psyframes which I had no idea what to do against game 1. game 2 and 3 I dropped majesty's fiend and he folded. I played......deskbots and hilariously lost when he synchro trished me and dropped naturia beast 3 times (I got rid of it twice with shaddoll squamata but then he call of the haunted one of them  )played ritual beasts and bricked game 1. games 2 and 3 I saw both denko sekka and imperial iron wall, so I didn't have trouble. came in 54th place, barely missing the top 48 that were given invites to nationals. maybe next time. 
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Needs an errata to only spellbook cards counting towards its surplus. You could use any spell for it, such as upstart goblin or magical mallet.
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Basically you'd either put Priestess, Jowgen or Kycoo on board after judgment, or if you had a bad hand, Justice. Kycoo and Jowgen locked out Dragon Rulers and the mirror match, preventing them from banishing or special summoning.
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Or just play infernoids. Slur scoops at those.Cabinet posted:Fiendish chain works too or has that fallen out of fashion? Breakthrough Skill is better unless you're playing tellar right now. Poison Mushroom posted:Raigeki Break? Hammer Shot? first one is a niche pick in BA, hammer shot is bad. dark hole is at 2.
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BurritoJustice posted:I'm switching up my pure shaddoll to clowns and at the same time building a side deck for the first time (not too sure exactly what to put in the side mainly). I can tell you right now that denko sekka mained isn't all that great an idea until Nekroz is no longer the best deck. They will hardly EVER set backrow unless they are playing a single vanity's emptiness. Consider 3 squamata as it sends everything in your deck to grave (including core, which is important to get back fusion spells for spun/bounced fusions) that you want except the clowns (which you should totally have a third mathematician for) 3 mst over royal decree, you should already have 2 denko sekka in side, which is stronger than decree. honestly retaliating C is not only good versus infernoid in some cases, but is also stronger against nekroz and the mirror. in fact, if infernoids side in chaos hunter, and they hit chaos hunter off their reasoning when you retaliating C them, you do NOT banish their cards. something important to note. side iron wall for ritual beasts and kozmo over lancea, unless you were playing the artifact variant, which, despite having only 1 moralltach, is still quite strong. some people dislike iron wall because you can't banish your clowns, but I honestly feel like the shaddoll/connie group can just take care of the rest while you have it up. consider siding mistake and maybe taking out 1 instant fusion and 1 norden. you're really only going to go into him once. if they maxx "C" the instant fusion you can just go into winda. I'm not sure how often you go into masquerade, but definitely find a diamond crab king (if you're in the right region for it) over a star eater. if you're not in NA, disregard. I know how KoE doesn't like to get manga cards until like years later. consider breakthrough skill in the main deck as it can shut off unicore, which is your REAL problem in the nekroz matchup. also some people complain about the 3rd shaddoll fusion, but I'd honestly run it. there have been so many games where I wanted to see one but only ran 5. (or the arg format which forces you to run 5) everything else looks normal/typical.
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BurritoJustice posted:Since that post I've changed a few things after playing around with it. I've taken out book and foolish and gone to three math. I played with two instants but ended up keeping it at three, because I abuse noden so heavily and being able to instant a winda is both useful to pull a fusion from the grave or to just get a shaddoll out to fuse with when you get a brick clown hand. I'm also trying out three trick clown, which I am unsure of. It helps when you need to damage juggler search a light for a construct and your other clown is tied up, but it is super cloggy when you draw into both as it is OPT. I'm probably going to drop it again for a third squamata or foolish. you definitely want dweller and emeral. emeral is important when you go through all of your constructs, which can happen a lot in the kozmo matchup. dweller is for grave stuff like BA and the mirror, also anoyatillis. stick to 1 (max 2 if you really like it) trick clown. it kinda sucks to draw them sometimes. foolish is definitely a staple, I'd find room for it. yeah if you don't see yourself going into masquerade a lot you can drop it. you can el shaddoll through nekroz of valkyrus so you don't need to commit 3 level 4s to just get through valk. keep 2 winda as you're not always going to see light monsters and winda is the next best thing to make when you have anoyatillis out. (shekinaga being the first so they can't go into an R4 to deal with anoyatillis) MST > fairy wind, but I mained 2 shaddoll dragon for a regional last weekend and it hardly bothered me as the flip effect came in handy a lot. thus I felt like I didn't need it for the qliphort MU.
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That card is a 3-card must against qliphort. I've never seen such a savage card that isn't fairy wind against them. That's a nice disk/shell/stealth you have there, would be a shame if it was only 700 atk. shame is, literally nobody is playing qliphort right now, unless you're going to a regional or something. Koguma fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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I could try to set up a goon-yugitube, I also stream duelnetwork sometimes.
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So hype for neptabyss. Glad I kept my mermail stuff and my moulinglacia. They've all shot up to 20+$
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Dexie posted:Sibyl Shaddolls are still the most fun way to play Shaddolls. Yeah, nah
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just got back from philadelphia regionals going a high 7-3 of about 570 people attending. 10 rounds of exhausting card game shenanigans. warning: it's shadolls, so Slur, do not read decklist: 1 BLS 2 Maxx c 3 Mathematician 2 Beast 3 Squamata 1 Dragon 2 Hedgehog 2 Falco 3 Juggler 2 Tricker 2 Clown 3 Shaddoll Fusion 3 El Shaddoll Fusion 2 Instant Fusion 1 Mind Control 1 Raigeki 1 Book of Moon 1 Foolish Burial 1 Soul Charge 1 Vanity's Emptiness 1 Shaddoll Core 2 Breakthrough Skill Extra 3 Construct 2 Winda 1 Shek 1 Anoyatillis 1 Norden 1 Trishula 1 Exciton 1 Castel 1 Emeral 1 Diamond Crab King 1 Dweller 1 Trapeze Magician Side 2 Denko Sekka 2 Majesty's Fiend 2 Iron Wall 2 Mistake 2 Retaliating C 1 Thunder King 3 MST Matches: R1: the mirror, 2-0 R2: kozmo, 2-0 R3: watt burn? 2-1 I dunno, was some girl playing a burn variant, sided Denko Sekka and just left hat tricker on board and eventually won. R4: infernoids, 0-2 vs. Ryan Levine, winner of ARG Atlantic City. this MU was brutal as I almost always had a lord omega to deal with and I didn't see fusion spells. R5: the mirror, 2-1 R6: kozmo, 1-2 I otk'd him game one and games two and three I just misplayed a bunch. R7: the mirror, 2-0 R8: infernoids, 2-0, I open BLS both games and every time he summoned devyaty I just ran over it with him. R9: the mirror, 1-2, game 3 I made the misplay of the evening forgetting he set squamata and running into it with BLS instead of banishing. I facepalmed immediately after he activated core and then emptiness later when I tried to summon my core to defend myself and he just attacked a few times for game. R10: the mirror, 2-0, probably the round I was worried about the most, since if I didn't win I probably wouldn't top 32. however, I get the trapeze/construct OTK both games and had enough rank 4 resources to spin whatever he had on board or run it over. talk about anti-climactic. it was over in like 12 minutes. I had gone first both games. finishing 7-3 and no string of losses next to each other I sat there and waited the rest of the standings to be posted and for everyone to finish up. once they're put up I somehow manage to wade past the forest of people and see my name plastered under number 31, barely making it. top 64 were given invites, so if I still lost round 10, I -may- have made it, but I doubt it. I was incredibly proud of how I did seeing as I haven't been to many events since coming back, so I got my invite to nationals and left pretty happy.
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BurritoJustice posted:Congrats, that's awesome! I run a Shaddoll clowns deck myself that is incredibly similar (with veiler instead of BTS and 2 noden 3 instant 3 maxx c with no trish and one less trick clown). I'm heading to the Newcastle regional in three weeks, so I might shamelessly steal inspiration from your build and test it out at locals imo BTS is far more important than veiler in the case that it turns off problem cards from grave: unicore construct in the mirror winda in the mirror psy-framelord omega in infernoid constellar diamond Pleiades I've only ever found the need for one noden since I run soul charge, but I took the ability to bring back constructs/fusions as well instead of just 1 R4 possibly. trish is extremely easy to go into with this variant (falco math and level 4) I played 2 clown because I sided 1 out at times for denko or majesty's fiend. it was always nice to have game 1.
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Dabir posted:Interrupting? There's not a hell of a lot to interrupt. Go ahead.
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Welp goodbye shaddolls, it was nice getting my regional invite with you!
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"We are gathered here today...."
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Not really, you just summon/resolve Devyaty and Infernoids win. The whole banishing thing doesn't really work against them but you still have huge monsters like Onuncu/Devyaty.
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well good thing I held onto mermails. looks like I'll do some experimenting with them and noden until neptabyss.
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Play infernoid! They have a monster named after you, baal. 
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Kozmos are going to be the best deck with their new support so you're going to have to play a deck that's good against them and sometimes Infernoid, Majespecter, and Magepals. Yang Zing is Kozmo's absolute worst matchup but you have to be afraid of CL 1 Maxx C CL 2 Torrential so I'd hold on to something like wiretap or divine wrath. Chaofeng with Chiwen (later Jiaotu) as a synchro material is their bane. Spellbook is actually really good against Kozmo with 2 fate (3 is too much) and lose 1 turn. Fate doesn't target and is a natural out to the big ships, Forerunner and Dark Destroyer If you're good with Geargia that's also an option but you should probably main deck iron wall and anti-spell fragrance.
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You don't need Galaxy Cyclone because the only thing it'll out is vanity's. You can't use it against Iron Wall (your biggest threat). You do need Omega, though. Infernoid is a lot stronger but is weak to the infinite resource Kozmo (seriously the deck just wins if it sees farmgirl vs. you) I've been trying to find a way to make the matchup easier for the main deck without sides, but nothing's come up yet except for dragged down and mind crush. Tellar can beat Kozmo I think but you have to have access to Triverr at all times because forerunner and destroyer are huge and can't be targeted.
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Lose 1 Turn Spellbooks (no priestess/justice; using kycoo and jowgen instead) actually fantastic against Kozmo.
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Dexie posted:Do you have a decklist for this? I will after the New Jersey state championships. ok well here goes: 3x kycoo 2x jowgen 1x injection fairy lily 3x spellbook magician 1x raigeki x1 book of moon 3x crescent 3x secrets 2x master 2x fate 2x eternity 2x tower 2x wisdom 1x life 1x power 3x lose 1 turn 3x mirror force 3x fiendish chain 1x solemn warning 1x vanity's emptiness extra castel gagaga samurai gagaga cowboy downerd honor ark steelswarm roach dire wolf dweller shining elf daigusto phoenix cat shark ghostrick socuteboss herald of pure light gachi sky cavalry side 3x mind crush (generally anything, but mostly majespecter and kozmo) 3x black horn (for tellar and ritual beast, both extremely hard) 3x MST 2x mind drain (psyframe) 2x cyber dragon (kozmo) 2x chimeratech fortress dragon (kozmo) i'd fit bottomless somewhere but i don't want it in the kozmo matchup, but i do want it against majespecter. sorry for being stingy about the list but i don't know who plays here in tournaments in the states or not  double edit: tournament was with the new list, hence fate at 2 in the deck (despite having 3 available) Koguma fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Nov 7, 2015 |
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