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Can anyone recommend me a reasonably cheap good deck to get back into the game with? I used to play casually with a few friends way back before Synchros became a thing, and recently a bunch of my friends have been into the modern game (all my old cards are seemingly worthless in the current meta). My friends have masked hero, lightsworn, blackwing, nekroz and odd-eyes decks, so I'd rather get something different to any of those. I'm only going to be playing casually, no comps.
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Dabir posted:I like Mecha Phantom Beasts and they're fairly cheap. The most expensive part of any deck is gonna be the extra deck, really. Speaking of extra deck, can you recommend anything fun focused on pendulum/XYZ/synchro stuff? I've never played with any of them before and my mates play very heavy with all that and it seems like fun. I can probably put down low three figures if it gives me a fun deck that will actually be capable versus my friends tier 1-3 stuff.
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Aug 5, 2015 11:48
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Dabir posted:If your friends are good people, Shadolls will upset them. He doesn't play Nekroz typically, he bought that deck for playing comp at a local store. He usually plays Blackwing, which is a little bit less absurd. I played a few games against the AI with a Shaddolls deck I netdecked in YGOPro, and I couldn't really get a feel for them. The whole idea of dumping cards in the graveyard for various effects is cool, but I couldn't actually get much done with them. Game is 100x more complex than 8 years ago. Senerio posted:A fun pendulum "archetype" (though I use that word loosely) is Pendulum Normals. I'm considering buying this just because it would be basically nothing to build a full deck from that. Doubt it would be too effective against the more crazy archetypes though.
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Onmi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1pPk0S22CM I've gotta say, the European games are a lot more watchable. Better on screen info, less background noise, better camera angles, better commentary
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Welp, went all in on a Shaddolls deck. Now I just have to figure out how to be not poo poo at the game by the time it arrives.
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I spent $140 Aussie on the core (~$100 American), got me: 3 x Falco 3 x Dragon 3 x Beast 3 x Hedgehog 3 x Squamata 2 x Mathematician 1 x Lightsworn archer 3 x El Shaddoll Fusion 3 x Shaddoll Fusion 2 x Shaddoll Core 1 x Sinister shadow games 3 x El Shaddoll Construct 2 x El Shaddoll Winda 1 x El Shaddoll Shek 1 x El Shaddoll Anoyatolis By all accounts it was a pretty good deal. I then proceeded to go mad and spend like $60 on random extra deck singles and poo poo like raigeki. E: Star Eater, BRD, Samsara rebirth Dragon, Leo the keeper, raigeki, goyo guardian, peropero, another Mathematician, another Shek and a Winda. BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Aug 8, 2015 |
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Onmi posted:Oh hey, another AUS player. Yeah that sounds like a good Shaddolls deck to start with. Where do you buy your singles from? The best I've found so far is a yugioh sales Australia Facebook page, but I literally cannot find a Black Rose Moonlight Dragon for sale anywhere in Aus. Most people have never heard of it.
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Onmi posted:I haven't purchased cards since Power of the Duelist in 2007 $26 postage 
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Julias posted:You might want to make sure it's tournament legal over there, first. Sometimes European regions have a weird thing where Manga Cards and other Promos aren't considered legal in those regions, and that might apply to Black Rose Moonlight Dragon as well, since it came from one of these mangas. Yeah I've been informed that BRMD isn't legal in Australia, hence why it is impossible to find. I'm considering buying it anyway just to finish off the deck, dunno if it will get more or less expensive when it becomes legal.
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Is there a reason that nobody seems to use Nephe Shaddoll Fusion? It is more niche than the other two fusions, but being able to pick any of the fusions as long as you have at least one shaddoll on the field and one in your hand (which you basically always have), seems pretty useful. A more consistent way of summoning El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis for sure. Also what does everyone think about the two rarely used Shaddolls, Grysta and Wendigo? Grysta seems like a weaker Anoyatyllis (except for being able to block synchro summons), but Wendigo seems like a useful defensive card and an easy access to level 8 synchros. What staples does everyone recommend to add onto the Shaddoll stuff I posted above? No idea what to side either. Thanks everyone for helping me get back into this batshit game.
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Julias posted:Nephe Shaddoll Fusion is a decent card, but the Regular Fusion and El Fusion work better for the deck, not to mention that Shaddoll Core serves almost the same purpose. (And you can send him with Construct to retrieve your fusion from rave to push for more damage/defense. In a fit of impulse buying, I ended up with both a playset of effect veilers and a playset of the star seraphs stick and chair combo. This is way too much isn't it, or can I use both in some ungodly 1/4 of my deck combination. I am bad with money. I also grabbed Foolish burial, black luster soldier, compulsory, book of moon, vanity and mistake (x2). I'm also considering mind control and soul charge, having watched profiles/games on Ido Marcus' 1st in europe deck. Somehow I am going to compile this ungodly assortment of cards into a workable deck.
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Julias posted:Just so you know, Ido Marcus said that he would have cut the Mind Control for Compulsory Evacuation Device, but it isn't a bad card, especially against Nekroz. A lot of card choices just depend on the meta around where you live, and the like. My extra deck is 100% Synchros and fusions right now. If anything, I'll likely play with either the seraphs and XYZs or the veilers and Synchros (veiler being a lvl 1 tuner helps). The seraphs were a bit of a silly buy, I don't really want to lay down the money for XYZs to use with them right now, but it'll be fun when I eventually have a second variation of Shaddolls to play (Shaddolls are just so drat fun). I got an OK price on the set too, $35 USD equivalent for all six shipped, which was a factor in the impulse buy. I know what Ido said about mind control, but I ran it in a few devpro games and while it wasn't helpful too often it was fun stealing a monster for my fusions. I can see it being far more effective in casual play with my friends than against the people Ido played against, ha.
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Dexie posted:I was wrong. It's Nutellas vs. Nekroz for the finals. If I can get this burning Abyss deck for 125USD including shipping would it be worth it? I just spent a bunch building shaddolls to get back into the game (hell I'm not even finished on that deck...), but it seems to me at this price I would be paying less for the whole deck than just the Dante's would cost on their own. BA seems fun to play and similar to dolls, but I'd probably resell if the margins are good. Edit: I totally didn't meant to quote this but as I did, gently caress yeah nekroz lost. Go tellars. Can anyone explain why tellers weren't at the WCQ finals much but successful in the WC finals? BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Julias posted:BA isn't legal in OCG, so It wasn't allowed at Worlds. Shaddolls have a bunch of holes in it (Such as Construct to 0, El Fusion to 1, Mathematician to 1), and Nekroz, while filled with holes, still had its power plays, and is, in general, a very adaptable deck, which many weren't considering as viable for worlds, so it had a surprise factor to it. Satellars are a decent deck, and didn't loose anything from the combined list except for two Reinforcements of the Army (ROTA). The BA deck is everything on that list plus a bunch of common and super staples. It includes three Dantes, two Virgil's and one or two of the fusions I can't remember. For the money it seems a bit absurd. Like I said I'd probably be buying to sell though.
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I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for my Shaddolls deck. It is pure shaddolls right now, but I also have the star seraph engine and matching XYZ's that I am not using right now. Monsters: 3x Shaddoll Falco 3x Shaddoll Squamata 2x Shaddoll Hedgehog 2x Shaddoll Beast 1x Shaddoll Dragon 3x Mathematician 2x Effect Veiler 1x Peropero Cerberus 1x Felis, Lightsworn Archer 1x BLS Envoy 1x Denko Sekka Spells: 3x El Shaddoll Fusion 2x Shaddoll Fusion 1x Raigeki 1x Foolish Burial 1x Book of Moon 1x Mind control 1x Soul Charge Traps: 2x Sinister Shadow Games 2x Mistake 2x Shaddoll Core 1x Ring of Destruction 1x Torrential Tribute 1x Bottomless Trap Hole 1x Vanity's Emptiness 1x Compulsory Evacuation Device Extra: 3x El Shaddoll Construct 2x El Shaddoll Winda 2x El Shaddoll Shekhinaga 1x El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis 1x Samsara, Dragon of Rebirth 1x Goyo Guardian 1x Black Rose Dragon 1x Black Rose Moonlight Dragon 1x Arcanite Magician 1x Leo, the Keeper of the Sacred Tree 1x Star Eater
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Koguma posted:You have way too many traps for a shaddoll deck. Consider running 2 denko and getting rid of compulse, for one. I'd also run one core, since you're not running the fire fusion. You only have one real target for core (unless you're synchroing for star eater), and despite grysta being pretty good, nobody really plays him. you also have a good amount of targets for shek (you could also put in maxx "c" for her) I run two cores both because of the two card synchro for star eater and the graveyard effect. Fusing a core and another shaddoll and then getting your fusion card back is really useful, so is sending core with squamata if you need a fusion card in a pinch. I do have a grysta that I'm seriously considering running, it was crazy effective against my mates pendulum deck when I played him on devpro. I'd probably drop either samsara or a shek for Grysta. I'm seriously considering maxx "C", though I feel I'd clog a lot with earth fusion targets though unless I drop a math. Fair call on the traps though, I have compulse/bottomless/torrential etc just because ~staples~. I should probably drop some of the traps for more dolls cards but I don't really know what would be best there. I'd go two denkos but I don't really want to drop another $20 on one, so I am considering a thunder king rai oh. I might be wrong but Goyo seems pretty bloody amazing to me. 2800 beater and you can steal your opponent's monsters for fusions and synchros.
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Koguma posted:Rai-oh is great, yeah, can't go wrong there. Denko is getting a reprint soon in the tins so you might as well wait, I suppose. Can I ask why you think the traps don't suit the deck? They seem quite useful to me to have the reactionary plays, and they seem quite popular in the competitive dolls decks I've seen online too. Just curious.
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Koguma posted:most of the traps you see in that deck I made are live most of the time and we flipped up on your opponent's standby or reacting to a search card attempt (mistake; against nekroz and tellar, somewhat ritual beast) Don't get me wrong, I'm a super new player (started a month ago) so any input is hugely appreciated. I've ordered a Thunder King and an allure of darkness online, and I'm going to drop two of the traps to fit them in. I'm thinking bottomless and compulse as torrential and ring seem more versatile (torrential kills multiples and triggers all my dolls affects and ring doesn't just have to be on summon). I'm unsure about the upstarts because they seem to be sacrificing utility for consistency with having three cards just to thin the deck. If anything I'd drop another trap for a third veiler, the hand effect is good and level 1 tuners are useful. I also dropped samsara for Grysta considering the two cores. E: I'd also love archfiend eccentric or ghost ogre but $$$$$ BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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Senerio posted:Just play on YGOPro/Devpro like the rest of us. I have a Physical U.A. deck and a Ghostrick deck (no Alucard though) but nothing more because $$$. (I'm getting the Yugi thing when it comes out for nostalgia sake though) I've an alucard and no ghostrick deck  I'm buying physical because I have a group of mates (10~) who all play the physical game frequently. I do also play devpro with mates, but it is a lot more fun with the physical cards.
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If I wanted to watch Arc-V online, where would be the best place? Do any of the streaming services have it? I'd rather not resort to  Also is this whole sub vs dub bullshit worth anything? I prefer to veg out and watch stuff while doing other things, so dub would be way easier, but I don't want to watch it if it is trash compared to the sub or anything.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Dante and Vergil reprints are confirmed for the megatins. So I guess BA don't get a premium product like the NK. Got a source on that? (I have three dantes and two virgils )
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I'm guessing it is time to sell sell sell? I'm think I'll keep the rest of the BA deck and just sell the dantes/virgils and rebuy them after the tins, probably the best option? What happened to prices on the super wanted $50~ cards with last years tins?
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Hahaha gently caress I put my Dante's on ebay and I got $202.50 for them, which is substantiality more than I paid for my entire BA deck. Can't wait to buy them again post reprint 
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I'm switching up my pure shaddoll to clowns and at the same time building a side deck for the first time (not too sure exactly what to put in the side mainly). Maindeck: 1x BLS 1x Thunder King Rai-Oh 1x Denko Sekka 2x Shaddoll Beast 1x Shaddoll Dragon 2x Shaddoll Squamata 2x Shaddoll Hedgehog 2x Shaddoll Falco 3x Performage Damage Juggler 2x Performage Hat Tricker 1x Performage Trick Clown 2x Mathematician 3x Maxx "C" 2x Effect Veiler 3x Instant Fusion 1x Raigeki 2x Shaddoll Fusion 3x El Shaddoll Fusion 1x Foolish Burial 1x Book of Moon 1x Shaddoll Core 1x Vanity's Emptiness 2x Mistake Total: 40 Extra Deck: 3x El Shaddoll Construct 2x El Shaddoll Winda 1x El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis 1x El Shaddoll Shekhinaga 2x Elder Entity Norden 1x Star Eater 1x Number 104: Masquerade 1x Performage Trapeze Magician 1x Castel 1x Evilswarm Exciton Knight 1x Daigusto Emeral Total: 15 Side Deck: 3x Artifact Lancea (RBs and Kozmo) 3x Flying "C" (BA and Tellars) 3x MST (staple) 3x Fairy Wind (Qliphorts) 3x Royal Decree (not sure about these) Total: 15 If anyone has suggestions or fixes I'd super appreciate it!
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Quincytbb posted:infernoids are probably going to get popular so some retaliating c's might be useful instead of the 3 royal decrees Haha oh man I hadn't thought about how good chaining retaliating "c" to monster gate or reasoning would be. That is basically a win condition. They're going in for sure. Only thing I'm unsure about now is ratios in my main, mainly with the clowns and instant fusions etc.
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Koguma posted:I can tell you right now that denko sekka mained isn't all that great an idea until Nekroz is no longer the best deck. They will hardly EVER set backrow unless they are playing a single vanity's emptiness. Consider 3 squamata as it sends everything in your deck to grave (including core, which is important to get back fusion spells for spun/bounced fusions) that you want except the clowns (which you should totally have a third mathematician for) Since that post I've changed a few things after playing around with it. I've taken out book and foolish and gone to three math. I played with two instants but ended up keeping it at three, because I abuse noden so heavily and being able to instant a winda is both useful to pull a fusion from the grave or to just get a shaddoll out to fuse with when you get a brick clown hand. I'm also trying out three trick clown, which I am unsure of. It helps when you need to damage juggler search a light for a construct and your other clown is tied up, but it is super cloggy when you draw into both as it is OPT. I'm probably going to drop it again for a third squamata or foolish. I definitely agree with you on the Denko's, I am going to grab a second one and move it to the side. I've changed the royal decrees for retaliating "C", and I need to decide which three-of side deck cards I drop to two-of to fit in the two denko's in the side (looking like fairy wind and mst rn but I am 0% sure so input is helpful). I keep the mistakes and tking in the main because they are what I would be definitely siding in against Nekroz, and as I'm mostly likely to be playing Nekroz I keep them in the main. They're the first things I'm going to side out for other decks. I'm based in Aus, so as much as I would love to use Number 52, Star Eater is my only real out. I'm using Lancea right now purely because I love going for sacky otk clown combos. It is really the tradeoff of longer lasting lockdown versus freedom in my turn. I've bought some iron walls and I'll gently caress around with them at locals this weekend. I'm definitely not tied to masquerade. I go into it the least of the XYZ's, but I do like it in the as security versus hand traps. Can never feel safe attacking these days even without backrow. Other things I'm considering are Abyss Dweller and 101. Abyss gives easy R4 access to Anoyatyllis for the Nekroz matchup (though I do have noden for this too), and it counters the mirror and BA hard. 101 is easy non-destructive removal for when I've already used my Castel to spin a continuous s/t. I've also experimented with being controversial and going for one Winda, I barely ever go into the second and I can recycle it easily with Daigusto Emeral. Extra deck space is pretty tight as it always is with dolls.
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Can someone explain to be how Ptolemaeus is used to abuse Outer Entity Azathoth? I see it mentioned repeatedly as why Ptolemaeus was banned in the OCG. I'd have thought the main Azathoth play would be instant fusion -> noden -> noden summons a lvl 4 synchro -> overlay nyarla -> overlay Azathoth.
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Dexie posted:Cyber Dragon Infinity and Constellar Pleiades are why Ptolemaeus got banned. In a thread on Reddit about CDI coming out in the TCG. People are arguing that CDI coming out isn't going to cause ptol to be banned because ptol was banned because of its abuse with Azathoth. I don't have an exact link unfortunately. Ptolemaeus tripling in price because CDI was announced is pretty hilarious. E: Just read the card text more closely. I'm guessing it isn't because of the nuke effect of Azathoth, but rather the "your opponent cannot activate monster effects for the rest of the turn" component. Detaching three from ptol to summon Azathoth and disable monster effects sounds pretty crazy good against EMEm, combined with shock master blocking spells that is an effective instant win. BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Cabinet posted:Jumping in on the AznEyes hate train. His videos are insufferable. Clickbait YGO. I'm fond of Cimoo and Lithium2300. Cimoo for his in depth tech videos (if you can handle his hyper-enthusiasm), and Lithium2300 for his cross banlist duel videos
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Koguma posted:you definitely want dweller and emeral. emeral is important when you go through all of your constructs, which can happen a lot in the kozmo matchup. dweller is for grave stuff like BA and the mirror, also anoyatillis. Took suggestions on board and took my deck to locals. Dropped book and move denko to the side, and added in foolish and mind control. I only drew into mind control once in the nekroz matchup, and it got trishula'd. I'm undecided on keeping it in or swapping it for a third squamata (if I do then mind control is going into the side). Foolish I ran into a few times and it was always useful. I took out masquerade for Abyss Dweller, and I am glad I did. It was crazy useful in the Nekroz match to stop them from getting back their ritual spells, and making it with noden makes it a more useful 2200 beater. I'm thinking of dropping 1 instant fusion and 1 noden (I can recycle my noden with emeral quite easily) to fit in glow up bulb and naturia beast, and probably drop 101 for a trish because I never make it. I'm thinking this mostly because I got a synchro trishula as collateral in a trade I came first at locals undefeated and won a bunch of High Speed Raiders and Astral Packs, so thanks for the help!
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Julias posted:^Just a heads up, Naturia Beast isn't really good in Shaddolls, because it requires both an Earth Tuner AND Earth non-Tuners, meaning you pretty much need Glow-up Bulb + Hat Tricker/ Nefarious Archfiend Eater of Nefariousness. You can playtest it, but It won't come up very much. Dropping 101 is a good idea, though. I'm aware beast is a pain to get out. I don't really like the effort to get it out, but it is an effective win condition versus nekroz and they're the deck to beat. If I get both GUB and damage juggler in grave then that is a guaranteed Naturia Beast (fuse damage juggler with a Shaddoll for construct and send GUB with mathematician or foolish). I feel like it would be a bit wasted to run GUB just for Trishula too, but Trishula would feel wasted if I need to go for a weird hog/falco/squamata play or something involving veiler to get it out.
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Koguma posted:just got back from philadelphia regionals going a high 7-3 of about 570 people attending. 10 rounds of exhausting card game shenanigans. Congrats, that's awesome! I run a Shaddoll clowns deck myself that is incredibly similar (with veiler instead of BTS and 2 noden 3 instant 3 maxx c with no trish and one less trick clown). I'm heading to the Newcastle regional in three weeks, so I might shamelessly steal inspiration from your build and test it out at locals 
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Koguma posted:imo BTS is far more important than veiler in the case that it turns off problem cards from grave: I took advice from you and experience from locals on the weekend to change some things. Two weeks previous I came 1st and 3rd with my deck, but this weekend I went 1-3 in the swiss and noticed more of the flaws. I test this with a mate for a few hours and liked it more: MAIN DECK (40) Monsters: 24 1x Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning 2x Effect Veiler 3x Mathematician 2x Maxx "C" 3x Performage Damage Juggler 2x Performage Hat Tricker 1x Performage Trick Clown 2x Shaddoll Beast 1x Shaddoll Dragon 2x Shaddoll Falco 2x Shaddoll Hedgehog 3x Shaddoll Squamata Spells: 12 3x El Shaddoll Fusion 1x Foolish Burial 2x Instant Fusion 1x Mind Control 1x Raigeki 3x Shaddoll Fusion 1x Soul Charge Traps: 4 2x Breakthrough Skill 1x Shaddoll Core 1x Vanity's Emptiness EXTRA DECK (15) 1x El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis 3x El Shaddoll Construct 1x El Shaddoll Shekhinaga 2x El Shaddoll Winda 1x Elder Entity Norden 1x Star Eater 1x Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1x Abyss Dweller 1x Castel, the Skyblaster Musketeer 1x Daigusto Emeral 1x Evilswarm Exciton Knight 1x Performage Trapeze Magician SIDE DECK (15) 2x Denko Sekka 2x Flying "C" 2x Retaliating "C" 1x Thunder King Rai-Oh 3x Mystical Space Typhoon 3x Imperial Iron Wall 2x Mistake I found at three I drew into maxx "C" way too often, and being another earth material it felt cloggy. I got sacked by dark law in heroes and omega infernoids, which made me realise how drat good BTS is. I've kept in veilers too because in addition to their negation they're more light material and a lvl 1 tuner. I hadn't thought about that soul charge can act like an instant fusion that recycles your nodens, so that's in. Saves me space for the trishula that I got on the weekend as collateral in a trade. I'm thinking this new list is a lot closer to what I'll stick with. It is shame that yugioh isn't big enough on here to have a dedicated deck building thread like magic has, I feel like I'm interrupting the usual casual card discussion that is here.
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At my first time at the Newcastle locals, everything was going well until in the middle of one of my games an overweight, ponytailed man walked up. In the middle of one of my turns he picks up my deck, shuffles through it and starts criticising my card choices. He even left gross oily residue on my sleeves. That's the only stereotypical neckbeard experiences I've had though, no one at the Sydney locals is like that.
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Slur posted:Did you tell him to gently caress off? In more polite words yeah
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What the actual gently caress is up with this banlist. Shaddolls weren't degenerate, they weren't tier one. But they were the most fun deck to build and play in the entire game. In like two months they'll be power creeped the gently caress out by broken EMEm and pendulum bullshit anyway. Gotta learn and build something new for the regional now, poo poo.
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