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quote:On 18th Birthday, Nobel Winner Malala Yousafzai Opens School for Syrian Refugees Pretty awesome of her. I am continually impressed by this woman. Sadly some of her issues with poo poo the west also does like the drone warfare seems to get cut off and drowned out. As she says here its about dropping books and not bombs. She is also sticking up for refugees who are seen as a burden, right up until you find yourself as a refugee.
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# ? Jul 13, 2015 01:20 |
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She is also a tiny little bit annoying
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# ? Jul 13, 2015 12:15 |
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Oh? In what way? Here is something from another report
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# ? Jul 13, 2015 18:42 |
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There's too many crazy people in her part of the world. She should realize this, disavow Islam, and live in Greenwich Village for the rest of her life doing Fox News interviews.
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# ? Jul 13, 2015 18:45 |
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Nonsense posted:There's too many crazy people in her part of the world. She should realize this, disavow Islam, and live in Greenwich Village for the rest of her life doing Fox News interviews. I wouldn't equate their behaviors with mental illness. It is an extreme ideology fueled by frustration, isolation, lack of other prospects, and also the occasional western power giving them money and guns. I don't believe she has disavowed Islam.
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# ? Jul 13, 2015 23:06 |
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actually now that I looked it up I really really want to read her book http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/10/14/malala-yousafzaiislamfeminism.html quote:Malala, the Muslim feminist
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# ? Jul 13, 2015 23:10 |
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Dreadfully awaiting the ISIS execution video where she is forced to read supermarket checkout Clancyesque fiction until she bleeds out of her eyes and ears to death.
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# ? Jul 13, 2015 23:44 |
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Malala Yousafzai contributed tens of thousands to construct sites of the sort which Hamas has used to launch terrorist attacks against Israel. I'd call that a bit of a problematic deficit with her character. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 01:30 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:Malala Yousafzai contributed tens of thousands to construct sites of the sort which Hamas has used to launch terrorist attacks against Israel. I'd call that a bit of a problematic deficit with her character. The fact that she wears a Hijab is itself extremely problematic. What sort of message does that send to the vast swathes of oppressed women she claims to represent? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) ----------------
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 01:34 |
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Narciss posted:The fact that she wears a Hijab is itself extremely problematic. What sort of message does that send to the vast swathes of oppressed women she claims to represent? is this a serious post
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 01:35 |
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Narciss posted:The fact that she wears a Hijab is itself extremely problematic. What sort of message does that send to the vast swathes of oppressed women she claims to represent? Its a head covering. You are not liberating women by dictating what they can and cannot wear. If anything it is an attack on her cultural identity, not oppression. She is attacking oppression, you're just profiling. My Imaginary GF posted:Malala Yousafzai contributed tens of thousands to construct sites of the sort which Hamas has used to launch terrorist attacks against Israel. I'd call that a bit of a problematic deficit with her character. They are schools, you are suggesting that Muslims shouldn't be able to have anything because some of them are terrorists. Maybe if Israel takes issue with terrorist attacks they could stop bombing the poo poo out Muslims as collective punishment
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 01:45 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:Malala Yousafzai contributed tens of thousands to construct sites of the sort which Hamas has used to launch terrorist attacks against Israel. I'd call that a bit of a problematic deficit with her character.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 04:38 |
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Mandy Thompson posted:They are schools, you are suggesting that Muslims shouldn't be able to have anything because some of them are terrorists. Maybe if Israel takes issue with terrorist attacks they could stop bombing the poo poo out Muslims as collective punishment I am suggesting that nobel peace prize winners should not be funding sites from which Hamas launches terrorist attacks on Israel, and that if they insist otherwise, that their peace prize should be revoked for their irreputable conduct.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 04:41 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:Malala Yousafzai contributed tens of thousands to construct sites of the sort which Hamas has used to launch terrorist attacks against Israel. I'd call that a bit of a problematic deficit with her character. See? Schools can be multipurpose buildings for the whole community.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 04:43 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:I am suggesting that nobel peace prize winners should not be funding sites from which Hamas launches terrorist attacks on Israel, and that if they insist otherwise, that their peace prize should be revoked for their irreputable conduct. Asking for a friend. As an added bonus, the young men and women that attend those sites get valuable on-the-job training opportunities.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 05:04 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:I am suggesting that nobel peace prize winners should not be funding sites from which Hamas launches terrorist attacks on Israel, and that if they insist otherwise, that their peace prize should be revoked for their irreputable conduct. These "sites" are schools. For girls. And she calls for investment in books, rather than bullets. Any building could theoretically be used to launch a terrorist attack. It sounds as though you would prefer them to live in squalid tents just so a colonial power can feel a little bit more safe.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 06:39 |
But what if that book... WAS THE BIBLE OF RADICAL ISLAM?
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 06:59 |
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Nonsense posted:There's too many crazy people in her part of the world. She should realize this, disavow Islam, and live in Greenwich Village for the rest of her life doing Fox News interviews. What if she believes she has the authentic form of Islam? My Imaginary GF posted:Malala Yousafzai contributed tens of thousands to construct sites of the sort which Hamas has used to launch terrorist attacks against Israel. I'd call that a bit of a problematic deficit with her character. Well that means she is universal in her support for liberating people. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Nessus posted:But what if that book... WAS THE BIBLE OF RADICAL ISLAM? I hardly think she intends to promote "radical Islam" given the Taliban shot her in the face but rather bona fide education for girls. She is a muslim and she is also a feminist. These are not contradictions. There is no religion of peace or religion of terror, its what you bring to it, religion is not merely a belief system but an important aspect of people's cultural heritage. Even western secular empiricism has been twisted to justify things like eugenics and massively unethical coercive human experimentation on top of the really great stuff like polio vaccines, smart phones, and toilet paper. Its what you bring to it.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 07:05 |
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Mandy Thompson posted:actually now that I looked it up I really really want to read her book and yes she hasn't disavowed islam; she's kind of conservative in some social views as a result of growing up in a less populated part of pakistan. When she was recovering in a british hospital after being shot, "Bend It Like Beckham" was showing and she asked that they turn it off because the characters taking their shirts off was deeply unsettling to her. She comes at her work in the same way christian reformers do, by citing specific parts of texts that oppose different parts that their opponents cite (for instance, she cites that god gave us the ability to learn so that we can use it to the best of our ability and make this world better). It might be hard for some people to believe but she opposes both taliban/extremist jackasses and american intelligence/military hegemony as they both have a history of disposably using normal people and ruining places in pakistan without any benefit to the people who end up as collateral damage. Rodatose fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Mandy Thompson posted:I hardly think she intends to promote "radical Islam" given the Taliban shot her in the face but rather bona fide education for girls. She is a muslim and she is also a feminist. These are not contradictions. There is no religion of peace or religion of terror, its what you bring to it, religion is not merely a belief system but an important aspect of people's cultural heritage. Even western secular empiricism has been twisted to justify things like eugenics and massively unethical coercive human experimentation on top of the really great stuff like polio vaccines, smart phones, and toilet paper. Its what you bring to it.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 07:13 |
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Mandy Thompson posted:These "sites" are schools. For girls. And she calls for investment in books, rather than bullets. Any building could theoretically be used to launch a terrorist attack. It sounds as though you would prefer them to live in squalid tents just so a colonial power can feel a little bit more safe. See, what you've done here is treat MIGF as having had a serious point and that's just encouraged him to ramp the gimmick up even more. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Jul 14, 2015 |
# ? Jul 14, 2015 11:44 |
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i was worried that this thread was only going to be gushing about malala yousafzai evidently i underestimated the sheer pig-headedness of certain posters For real, though, does it seem as though she is a symbol of a trend, or is she as exceptional an individual as we're made to believe? I haven't been watching very closely
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 12:05 |
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forkboy84 posted:See, what you've done here is treat MIGF as having bad a serious point and that's just encouraged him to ramp the gimmick up even more. lesson learned, he's on ignore now.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 14:54 |
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V. Illych L. posted:For real, though, does it seem as though she is a symbol of a trend, or is she as exceptional an individual as we're made to believe? I haven't been watching very closely She hadn't feared direct reprisal too much at the time because before her, no specific assassination orders by the taliban had ever been made against teenage females so the thought they would specifically target one was a bit much to imagine. If anything, she and her father feared the school being burned down or bombed. That's not to say others haven't stood up for or believed in female education and were killed for it (see the aforementioned school burnings and bombings) but she's pretty clearly using the pulpit in a way others haven't, and was the target of a direct political assassination attempt for it. Rodatose fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jul 14, 2015 |
# ? Jul 14, 2015 15:06 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:I am suggesting that nobel peace prize winners should not be funding sites from which Hamas launches terrorist attacks on Israel, and that if they insist otherwise, that their peace prize should be revoked for their irreputable conduct.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 18:39 |
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Rodatose posted:well, if you're asking if she's just one activist out of many in a movement who rose to prominence after being shot, no. she is pretty exceptional, and is in the situation she is in because her father wanted to open schools for girls and ended up getting involved in politics because they lived in the borderlands away from urban centers where the taliban ended up getting a stronghold. The strong sense of justice rubbed off on her. She ended up making waves against the local command because of blogging complaining about the injustices and hypocrisies of taliban rule, and ended up a specific target of an assassination attempt. yeah, one of the interesting things about her book was that she was actually regionally known before she got shot; her blog was on the bbc website, though it was pseudoanonymous. I forget if she got a school named after her before or after the assassination attempt, but I want to say it was just before? Mandy Thompson posted:actually now that I looked it up I really really want to read her book it's a good read, though the writing leaves something to be desired. the foreign correspondent who's co-credited with the writing really helped smother everything that makes her character stand out. it still shines through here and there, though.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 19:02 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:Malala Yousafzai contributed tens of thousands to construct sites of the sort which Hamas has used to launch terrorist attacks against Israel. I'd call that a bit of a problematic deficit with her character. anyway, goldmine.
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# ? Jul 14, 2015 19:02 |
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The cool thing about MIGF is that while his posts are always stupid they're not actually that much dumber than the way Israel and the USA actually behave a lot of the time. In that sense his gimmick is rather educational.
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 00:14 |
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He is usually very good at speaking as a member of the DNC- albeit one that has a questionably strong allegiance to Israel.
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 02:39 |
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Narciss posted:The fact that she wears a Hijab is itself extremely problematic. What sort of message does that send to the vast swathes of oppressed women she claims to represent? I don't get why this deserved a probation, it was a perfect follow-up to what I assumed was a joke post. I mean considering the way this forum runs on politics I am unsure what is worth debating. Malala is great human being and an inspiration to women across the Muslim world. Is there really anything controversial about her?
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 02:51 |
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Uroboros posted:I don't get why this deserved a probation, it was a perfect follow-up to what I assumed was a joke post. She's a socialist, which is very controversial to certain people.
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 03:30 |
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Not just any socialist, but a loving Trotskyist at that !
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 03:34 |
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18-year olds are known for being politically sophisticated.
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 03:38 |
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Uroboros posted:I don't get why this deserved a probation, it was a perfect follow-up to what I assumed was a joke post. In many parts of Pakistan she is seen as a tool of western imperialism so in theory that angle could come up.
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 03:41 |
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TheImmigrant posted:18-year olds are known for being politically sophisticated. I trust you on this because you've probably had many conversations with people roughly around that age which've dragged on long that you start to reach for topics so that it doesn't become awkwardly silent and end up talking about half formed political views
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 03:47 |
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FourLeaf posted:She's a socialist, which is very controversial to certain people. Kim Jong Il posted:In many parts of Pakistan she is seen as a tool of western imperialism so in theory that angle could come up. I get that other people find her controversial, otherwise they wouldn't of shot her. My point is more that here on this forum, being a socialist is par the course, and I can't see anyone really finding issue with trying to ensure Muslim women in the Middle East have access to education. Perhaps DnD is in need of a thread where we celebrate human beings doing good things in the world?
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 04:07 |
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Yes that would be good
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# ? Jul 15, 2015 04:32 |
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Crowsbeak posted:What if she believes she has the authentic form of Islam?
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