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McDowell posted:He could still be VP as part of whatever power sharing agreement the nominee has to make with the Kochs. That's why Mitt 'picked' Paul Ryan. Why would anyone with any kind of clout pick this worthless sack of poo poo who only bombed further every time he opened his mouth as a VP? I hope Walker does the right thing and drops out of life next.
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Melmac posted:Can people genuinely explain to me how he is so well disliked yet he won a recall election? I'm honestly curious. Wisconsin is a largely Republican state outside of Madison and Milwaukee, and public opinion against unions is very, very negative. The idea of Wisconsin as some bastion of progressive thought is a myth and really hasn't been true for like a hundred years. The recall failed because the Wisconsin Democrats ran the exact same candidate against Walker who had already lost badly to him the year before (because reasons). It's really difficult to put into words just how colossally hosed the Wisconsin Democratic Party is, but when it came to last year's election: - Mary Burke had basically been appointed as the nominee by the party about two days after the recall failed, despite being a single-term school board member who spent a few years working at her family's bike company. The party actively discouraged other people from mounting a campaign; they decided it was best to have a single candidate right away. The primary was a joke, to the point that the only candidates were Burke and Brett Hulsey, a loving whackjob member of the Assembly who once announced plans to stand outside the state Republican convention and hand out KKK hoods. - The chair of the party at that point (he stepped down this summer), Mike Tate, was a loving moron. Tate cut his teeth working for Kathleen Falk, a former Dane County Executive, and he ran the state party as though it exists exclusively in Dane County and Dane County can speak to the entire state. It can't. - The campaign was half-heartedly running against Act 10 (already a mistake because people in this state were tired of hearing about the unions), and then the rest of the messaging was "hey, gently caress Scott Walker." That message flies among only a few hundred thousand people in the state at most -- it doesn't bring out Joe Fuckoff in Oshkosh. They completely ignored everything else about the Walker administration that was completely hosed. Every word out of Burke's mouth and every word in her commercials should have been that scads of people in Walker's staff have been indicted and tried for corruption, misconduct and worse. - The ground game was a joke. The party basically assumed that people would get out and vote this time because they had another shot at Walker. The minute after a poll showed Burke neck-and-neck with Walker, they gave up and figured they had it in the bag. - They stopped running TV ads until just a few weeks before the election, when the Burke campaign's internal polling realized, "Holy poo poo, we're going to get creamed." - Basically, Wisconsin's hosed. Remember, in 2011, a justice of our Supreme Court literally admitted to choking another justice out of anger, and this justice not only did not face ethics sanctions, he proceeded to win re-election. In both the recall and the 2014 election, the WisDems ran a 2004 "anybody but Bush" campaign. That's why they failed.
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Melmac posted:This man was elected by the people of Wisconsin on three separate occasions and they deserve his triumphant return. gently caress you
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Managed to pile on more debt for himself. "National Journal reported Monday that new federal financial documents showed that Walker had credit-card debts totaling more than $20,000 from two separate cards." "In April, The Boston Globe estimated that Walker's net worth was -$72,500." http://www.businessinsider.com/scott-walker-has-tens-of-thousands-of-dollars-worth-of-credit-card-debt-2015-8 and now
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Walker dropping out of something? Who would've thought
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seiferguy posted:Who are the Koch brothers gonna back now?? Anyone but Trump.
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seiferguy posted:Who are the Koch brothers gonna back now?? Flavor of the week Carly 
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Phuzzy posted:gently caress you Well not you of course. But the people who voted for him thrice. Yvershek posted:Managed to pile on more debt for himself. There's no way this is true, is there? Is he "broke" in the way that 50 Cent is "broke"? Or like, legit broke and he's gonna have to find real work soon?
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Rocks posted:Death to Walker hail satan
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Melmac posted:Well not you of course. But the people who voted for him thrice. That college degree will come in real handy
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Melmac posted:Well not you of course. But the people who voted for him thrice. "real work" i'm sure he's set for life on the speaking circuit and with right-wing think-tank board appointments
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Pinterest Mom posted:"real work" Top-dollar to tell people why they don't want to be in a smelly ol' union anyhow  Free slice of pizza at the mandatory meeting after work
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As a Wisconsin state employee, he's going to come back and rain a firestorm on my ilk in retribution and... IT'S TOTALLY WORTH IT FOR THIS
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The thing that really stands out is that this guy didn't even put up a fight before being KO'd. He didn't appear to do anything in response to his polls dropping, no real change in strategy, no manager shake-ups, nothing. Rick Perry at least got his Christian Soldiers to move onward without pay for a little while. Jindal continues to lash out at anyone and everyone in an attempt to grab a headline or two. Walker, despite having the Koch brothers in his corner, just laid down to die. He is one-hundred-and-ten percent bitch-made.
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Melmac posted:Well not you of course. But the people who voted for him thrice. $20,000 is credit card debt ain't poo poo. I had a friend who way paying something like $500 in credit card interest every month, which, assuming a fairly average 20% rate, would work out to a balance of around $30,000 if my calculations are correct, and he was way more of a useless fucker with no prospects than even Scott Walker, who, for all his faults, is probably not a minimally-functional alcoholic with a tendency toward profligacy and sweet gently caress all for marketable skills. EDIT: Or perhaps I'm giving him too much credit and my idiot, racist ex-friend should consider a career in politics. PT6A has issued a correction as of 04:54 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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^ Probably not?A Neurotic Jew posted:The thing that really stands out is that this guy didn't even put up a fight before being KO'd. He didn't appear to do anything in response to his polls dropping, no real change in strategy, no manager shake-ups, nothing. Rick Perry at least got his Christian Soldiers to move onward without pay for a little while. Jindal continues to lash out at anyone and everyone in an attempt to grab a headline or two. There's rumors thay his actual campaign organization / personal finances are a complete disaster (hemorrhaging cash) and the FEC might actually be looking at the obvious coordination between his broke campaign and the flush superPacs. Mc Do Well has issued a correction as of 04:54 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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McDowell posted:the FEC might actually be looking at the obvious coordination between his broke campaign and the flush superPacs. As a Wisconsin reporter this gives me a raging lede. This rear end in a top hat has skated on campaign finance and campaign ethics laws here in the state since his first governor's race. The state supreme court just finally shut down a john doe investigation into the Wisconsin Club For Growth after pressure from the administration. Please let the Feds get in on this. /please/
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Phuzzy posted:As a Wisconsin reporter this gives me a raging lede. This rear end in a top hat has skated on campaign finance and campaign ethics laws here in the state since his first governor's race. The state supreme court just finally shut down a john doe investigation into the Wisconsin Club For Growth after pressure from the administration. Agreed, he's been agonizingly close so many times.
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McDowell posted:^ Probably not? The former staffer tweeted he was ducking out because something big was coming. This sounds about what that is.
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walker has the charisma of an obese, mental deficient, who is covered in sticky syrup after eating a popsicle on a hot summer day. how the hell did the Koch brothers decide he was going to be their horse in the race? were all of the more competant candidates already bitched up with other billionaires or what?
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homeless poster posted:walker has the charisma of an obese, mental deficient, who is covered in sticky syrup after eating a popsicle on a hot summer day. how the hell did the Koch brothers decide he was going to be their horse in the race? were all of the more competant candidates already bitched up with other billionaires or what? They've gotten their money's worth out of him in the past in Wisconsin. Remember that the Kochs are Georgia Pacific, which has a massive presence in the state because of Wisconsin's lumber resources and paper industry. Also they back Americans for Prosperity which saw a massive spike in Wisconsin simply because they rode the anti-Obama wave in the off season elections, getting Walker elected when the state Democrats were still floundering after the loss of Jim Doyle. The question is, will they still have us for him in Wisconsin? I'm guessing yes. So long as they can keep him in office to make sure Wisconsin stays friendly to their positions, I'm saying we'll see AFP popping up come April.
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AFL CIO came out with a statement on Walker leaving the race. http://www.aflcio.org/Press-Room/Press-Releases/AFL-CIO-Statement-on-Scott-Walker-Announcement2
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homeless poster posted:walker has the charisma of an obese, mental deficient, who is covered in sticky syrup after eating a popsicle on a hot summer day. But at least that poor figure would elicit sympathy, which walker does not, at all
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Timby posted:In both the recall and the 2014 election, the WisDems ran a 2004 "anybody but Bush" campaign. That's why they failed. It was such a poo poo effort. They had mountains of terrible policy decisions he made that totally hosed this state up, even in the eyes of Republicans, and they didn't hit on any of them. They just had stupid pro-choice commercials and other obvious poo poo that is going to turn no ones vote around. They had the loving elections handed to them and they did nothing at all. Now he gets to come back to WI instead of traveling the world looking like a fool. Send this guy back over to Israel for a month or something. Philthy has issued a correction as of 06:15 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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homeless poster posted:walker has the charisma of an obese, mental deficient, who is covered in sticky syrup after eating a popsicle on a hot summer day. how the hell did the Koch brothers decide he was going to be their horse in the race? were all of the more competant candidates already bitched up with other billionaires or what? they wanted someone easy to control and would obey without question or thought however they grossly miscalculated you can control an ignorant person, but not a special needs person
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Hilario Baldness posted:he's going to come back and rain a firestorm on my ilk in retribution And right on queue he and his legislature are trying to change the Wisconsin retirement system for state employees. They're trying to to change your pension from the average of your three highest years to your five highest years.
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Hilario Baldness posted:And right on queue he and his legislature are trying to change the Wisconsin retirement system for state employees. They're trying to to change your pension from the average of your three highest years to your five highest years. scott walker is a state-level disgrace
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Hilario Baldness posted:And right on queue he and his legislature are trying to change the Wisconsin retirement system for state employees. They're trying to to change your pension from the average of your three highest years to your five highest years. The amount of poo poo that will need to be undone is going to be insane. This guy is such an rear end in a top hat.
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Phuzzy posted:They've gotten their money's worth out of him in the past in Wisconsin. Remember that the Kochs are Georgia Pacific, which has a massive presence in the state because of Wisconsin's lumber resources and paper industry. Also they back Americans for Prosperity which saw a massive spike in Wisconsin simply because they rode the anti-Obama wave in the off season elections, getting Walker elected when the state Democrats were still floundering after the loss of Jim Doyle. GP is also big poo poo in Arkansas, where the Kochs bought malformed shitsucker Tom Cotton a senate seat so I guess they could switch to him if he could shut the gently caress up on Fox News long enough to do it
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Philthy posted:It was such a poo poo effort. They had mountains of terrible policy decisions he made that totally hosed this state up, even in the eyes of Republicans, and they didn't hit on any of them. They just had stupid pro-choice commercials and other obvious poo poo that is going to turn no ones vote around. They had the loving elections handed to them and they did nothing at all. Mike Tate seriously ran the Wisconsin Democratic Party into the ground. He's the reason Feingold lost in 2010, he's the reason they ran Tom goddamn Barrett in two consecutive elections (when he never even wanted to run in the first place), he's the reason Mary Burke was the coronated nominee like two days after the recall election despite her qualifications being "worked at her Dad's bike company," he's the reason the party messaging never shifted from Act 10 (despite everyone in the state, even Democrats, being loving sick and tired of hearing about the unions), he's the reason the ground game is such a mess, and seriously gently caress that guy.
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Yvershek posted:Managed to pile on more debt for himself. Man, where's that Koch succor when you need it?
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Timby posted:he's the reason they ran Tom goddamn Barrett in two consecutive elections In all fairness he was an infinitely stronger candidate than Kathleen Falk was for the recall election. Tom Barrett is a class act all around and they hoped he would stand out against the perception of Scott Walker as a dick. Aside from that gently caress Tate. Edit: wrote Elizabeth instead of Kathleen, I am potatohead hear me roar Hilario Baldness has issued a correction as of 01:04 on Sep 27, 2015 |
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Hilario Baldness posted:In all fairness he was an infinitely stronger candidate than Elizabeth Falk was for the recall election. Tom Barrett is a class act all around and they hoped he would stand out against the perception of Scott Walker as a dick. All four candidates for the recall were terrible. Kathleen Falk is, well, Kathleen Falk; Barrett had to be dragged kicking and screaming into running even the first time around; the other two choices were a dude who has to wear a vest with his name on it in order for anyone to know who he is, and a yokel farmer.
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Walker dropping out vs Margaret Thatcher death? Which was a better feeling
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Phuzzy posted:Draft Barca Woe to the Italians come a Barca presidency.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Walker dropping out vs Margaret Thatcher death? Walker's still alive so
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