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TheOtherContraGuy posted:

Debt relief should be so painful as to avoid the "moral hazard" of taking out loans you can't pay. The actual economic justifications seem to have mostly disintegrated on contact with the real world.

It's important to remember that moral hazard is never, ever experienced by banks, resulting in them making loans they shouldn't have to people that can't pay them back. Only debtors can ever experience moral hazard.

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Sounds like someone needs to read Klein's The Shock Doctrine, or listen to Deltron: "crises precipitate change".

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wateroverfire posted:

Those are not non-economic structural changes, though. Those costs add up.

1. Cook the books with the help of a few government officials
2. Demand changes that have no proven effect on a government's ability to pay back their debt, but that are hugely beneficial to corporations that operate in Greece and align perfectly with the ideology of the IMF/Troika
3. Deleverage, profit.

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KingFisher posted:

The children do not "deserve" to suffer, but they do at the will of their parents, therefore any suffering a Greek child endures is at the direct will of their parents and the Greek nation.
Likewise the responsible greeks while less guilty for the current situation are still culpable for the decades of corruption and clientielsim.

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Institute mandatory minimum wage jobs for all Americans, for a period of 6mos-3 years depending on random chance... BUT the trick is you just have to keep checking every week to see if you still have to keep that job, we don't tell you in advance. Because it's not just about the job, it's about the desperate feeling of never being able to get out.

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