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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

KingFisher posted:

By placing the blame on the banks you are removing all agency from the greek, you are making my argument for me, that basically they would take any money given to them regardless of their ability to repay it.

You see this is far more infantilizing then my household narrative screed above don't you?
I mean I know you can't personally behave this way and max out your credit card every month because you know the *banks* wouldn't have given you that credit limit if you couldn't afford it.

It just proves the greek are unfit to rule themselves, or be left alone with matches.

By your own logic then, aren't you doing exactly the same thing to the Germans and anyone else who loaned Greece money? Wouldn't their lack of agency that you've just implicitly admitted to mean said lenders are unfit to control a currency, or to be left alone with matches?

paragon1 fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jul 20, 2015

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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

KingFisher posted:


Also, I find it extremely telling that none of you have come up with an answer yet for who *forced* the greek to take those loans.

I find it extremely telling that you haven't come up with an answer for who *forced* the Germans to make the loan.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
People often mention Italy and Spain as being similar to Greece when these sort of debates kick up. Would anyone care to share if there is any validity to that comparison, and if there is, how those countries' situations do and do not differ from Greece's?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

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Pohl posted:

Are you talking historical, or recently?
That is important.

my understanding is that they were referring to recent events, so the past five years or so?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Hmm...yes perhaps we've all just been confused and actually agreed with austerity all along!

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