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Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

too smmall,,, too slowo.... too fat.... bad phoen.

perfectly sized, according to steve, perfect speed if you're smart enough not to add bloatware (i.e. ios 6+), sturdy contruction and does not bend with normal use

:perfect:

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Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

hmmmm a cutally ios9 owns? and alsoo the6 andn6 s do nto bebdn with normal use unlelss normal us eofor ou is brekainig the phoen

ios 9 does not own because it uses comic sans

you are correct, normal use should not break the phone, or bend it, which the iphone 6 does: bend with normal use

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

soudns like u need to buy ana andorid phoen as u cllearly have a deadlyl addiction to fail.

no thanks, i have the best phone ever made: iphone 4s with ios 5

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Snapchat A Titty posted:

actualy do any of yall have a 4s? how does it run after the init

my 4s runs incredibly well since I was smart enough not to install ios 6 or later

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Soldier of Fortran posted:

im curious how well ios 5 handles web pages these days. would you mind posing a screenshot of some recently updated website so I can see?

i would mind because i really don't want to get harassed by people

i can assure you it works just fine, however

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

zen death robot posted:

Are there still people mad that Apple quit making small iphones?

not mad, just disappointed

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

zen death robot posted:

You all have small hands

hand sizes are uniform across a very small range and the iphone 4s was ideal for all hand sizes within that range, based on rigorous testing

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
the main difference between apple now and apple under steve is that when steve was in charge, products were designed with usability and human factors in mind

data was the primary factor that determined how a product would be created and if the data contradicted the current consumer whim then they would still move forward because the data was the data and not subject to idle fancy

tim is constantly triangulating about current fickle trends and releasing products that ignore human-centric, data-driven rigorous testing, all while cutting corners that results in overlarge phones that bend with normal use

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Tanith posted:

they named the loving font san francisco, lol

it already has a name: comic sans

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
steve literally had someone killed over leaking iphone specs

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

THC posted:

10.11 is extremely good.

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
if apple builds a car i don't think anyone short of the completely delusional will finally deny that apple is a pale shadow of its former self, chasing consumer whims and disinterested in building quality products

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
lololololol a coworker just tried to brag and show off the ad blocking on his new iphone with purity, went to a web page and it was still littered with ads

verified the safari settings and everything

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

emoji posted:

Is that what people do at the Labour Factory?

it's shocking i know, but when you work a real job you don't get looked down upon when you actually eat lunch during lunch time and, you know, take a break

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
it's never anger

just disappointment

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
i guess plugging things in very awkwardly to get a pittance of usable time is now a regular thing with apple

here's a nutty thought: design them properly so you don't have to constantly plug them in, or at the very least make them convenient to plug in

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

fits my needs posted:

the UI for apple music loving blows though. why is it so terrible?

because apple no longer cares about quality due to poor leadership

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

fits my needs posted:

who is the rightful successor to lead the overthrow of the current regime?

the one guy who got fired because he wouldn't sign off on apple maps being terrible and killing people would be a likely candidate

ios 7+ wouldn't be indistinguishable from android at the least if he were in charge

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
magic trackpad: for when you want the experience of controlling your computer by tickling a robot's taint

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
i still refuse to believe that apple, even under the incompetent leadership of tim, would be so baldly stupid as to get into the auto making business

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
they probably will and it's going to be a disaster, but i don't want to believe :(

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

hahah yeah 6 million paying subscribiers on a brandn new service thatas awful! a whole third of spotifys customer babse in 3 months, what a flop!!

given that the trend is downward and shows no sign of increasing yeah, it's most definitely a flop

tim is too busy starfucking to care whether or not apple creates products and services that are of any quality, and apple music is the best proof of this

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

what rtend? subscriber numbers? they're goping up. overall accounts arent as free trials run out, but payingi customer caccounts are going up. im sorryr u cant understand the beauty of apple music.

i'm glad you agree that accounts are going down, which is the only metric that is relevant

there is no sensible way to consider a service that has a 50% decline in subscribers as anything other than a flop

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

unless u take into account a 3 month free us eperiod extended to all users which has recently expired.

it has been taken into account and disregarded because it's irrelevant

the intent of subscribers discontinuing the service is irrelevant, the subscribers left, that means the service is a flop

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

The Management posted:

Apple Music went from zero paying subscribers to 6 million as of this month. more than 50% retention rate in the conversion from free to paid is pretty loving high.

and yet it is still a 50% decline in overall subscribers which is unacceptable as a metric to anyone with any sense

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

a subscriptionbn is a paid service, members not paying, for example sooemone who took advantage of sosme kind of free period of use, are by definitition not subscribers, so subscribers, thaht isi member s of the service who are paying a subscription fee, have gone up. im srory basic use of words and concepts known to a 10 yea rold are so diffiicult for you to comprehend.

no a subscriber is someone who subscribes to a service, and they will not be paying for it in any context now because they have discontinued the service

the service was poor enough quality that fully 50% of their subscribers said "no, i will not continue subscribing to this service" and this makes the service a flop

or are you insinuating that apple was stupid enough to not monetize "unpaying" subscribers somehow?

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

i agree a subscriberbe is someone who subscribes 2 a service. a subscription is the paying of a fee at regular intervals in exchanenge for a service, so anyone not paying a fee is not a subscriber. please ring up ur high school english techer to confimr these basic facts about what wwords mean.

subscribers are subscribers, whether they are paying or not is irrelevant to their status as a subscriber

i guess you've accepted the fact that apple designed their service so poorly that they can only consider paying subscribers as valuable to their service, which further cements apple music as a flop from its inception

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ludwig van Halen posted:

if you want to look at free to paid conversion, spotify's numbers are horrendous. 80% of their users don't pay them a dime

and yet their service is designed that those free users are still monetized, unlike apple music apparently

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

a subscriberb paying or not is only irrelevannt if u disagree with how the english languuage works and what words mean

applel propibably only consider paying customers as valuable 2 their service, becuase the entire service is based on a apid subscription. unbbelievable that apple makde a service u have to pay for and then only count paying customers as paying customers.

great, thanks for confirming

tim has rolled out a service so poorly designed that it has been failing since its creation up until this month because it had no paying customers and yet was providing a service

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

is english ur 2nd language. do u always have such issues such as not udnenrstanding basic concepts such as "free trial" and "paid service".

i understand them just fine

you seem to be struggling with the idea that services that are subscriber-based function based on a promise of a certain base of subscribers to the content providers to attract them and if those subscribers have a drastic decline in less than a fiscal quarter, those content providers may be less than eager to continue providing their content

sorry to move beyond what the definition of "subscribers" is :(

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Stux posted:

no i udnnerstand and agree with that idea, and apple music has done jusut that, because the word subscriber in regards to a serveivce which is a apid service implicitlyl means someone paying a recurring feee for that service, and ur wishes for it to mean something different doesnt erase the definition of a word.

look, i'll lay it out here because you're struggling with this: apple music, like other similar services, was created with the intent that all subscribers, whether they are paying or not, have a monetized value to the service provider and, in turn, the content providers enabling the service to exist

basically, i'm giving apple more credit than you seem to be which is strange

when those subscribers decline 50% in the quarter, there is no meaningful distinction because all subscribers, whether they are paying or not, are valuable and therefore the value of the service has declined to the content providers

when the value of a service declines to such a drastic degree it is reasonable to declare that it is a flop

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ludwig van Halen posted:

what value do non paying customers have?
and don't say ads because apple has literally never done anything that was ad-supported

they are consuming the content which is a prerequisite for paying for the content through any number of other sources, such as itunes

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ludwig van Halen posted:

but why should they pay for it if apple themselves are giving it away

because the myth of the freeloading content consumer is just that, a myth

content producers know that even the most inveterate pirate will still buy content

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Blue Train posted:

no I would pretty much never buy content; can't think of a time when I would

you have, you just may not be conscious of it

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Grandmaster.flv posted:

not quoting stymie but what don't you understand about free vs paid subscribers? this is exactly like a regular customer at a restaurant vs somebody with a groupon. a pretty large amount of consumers had no intention of paying for music they just got a deal and used it. the fact that they had 50% retention is pretty amazing considering the groupon restaurant conversion is like 8%

a bad comparison or the worst comparision? you be the judge!

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

iwatch is hosed - that article

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
i hope joe biden joins the presidential race so we can hear donald trump insult his son

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

echinopsis posted:

i make them read every insulting post as a lesson about trolling and fags

hey

cool it with the homophobic insults

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
cool it with the irony too because you're no good at it

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Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Silver Alicorn posted:

what's the opposite of buyer's remorse? I haven't been this satisfied with a product in a while (iPhone 5s)

self-delusion

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