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DuckConference posted:Intel released skylark with 2 overclocking SKUs, they use more power and are a couple percent faster in benches and sometimes slower in games its ok. we've had a skylark "problem" before
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:reminder: this was the fastest amd chip At least AMD managed to bring the power usage down some....
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Broadwell was a loving dumpster fire and AMD still can't catch up
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maniacdevnull posted:Broadwell was a loving dumpster fire and AMD still can't catch up broadwell the uarch was fine 14nm is the hard part and its bot like GF is gonna leapfrog intel process
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Aug 6, 2015 03:14
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a 14 nm process shrink wouldn't help amd very much. bulldozer/piledriver are total poo poo. paying for a newer process node will not magically improve the crappy performance. and who the heck is lining up to pay for it?
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Aug 6, 2015 03:20
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amd is still selling "8" core (actually 4) chip designs from 2012, on a 32 nm process for $250
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Doc Block posted:My PC runs on an AMD Phenom II 3.2ghz and it might as well be a Z80 in a volcano for how slow and hot it runs. same same
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:amd is still selling "8" core (actually 4) chip designs from 2012, on a 32 nm process And 220 watts
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Aug 6, 2015 04:42
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Nintendo Kid posted:And 220 watts that is so many watts !!'
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Nintendo Kid posted:And 220 watts convert that to cents and you have their stock price!
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Aug 6, 2015 05:11
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in b4 everyone gets shaggared about using metric units
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hobbesmaster posted:convert that to cents and you have their stock price! yeah amd stock i got when i interned there in 2000, worst investment of my life.
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Aug 6, 2015 05:13
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30 dollars or smthn and i sold it for 9 and it is 2 today. lol.
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Aug 6, 2015 05:15
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Mkt cap 1.66B lol. how much are their patents worth?
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:amd is still selling "8" core (actually 4) chip designs from 2012, on a 32 nm process Nintendo Kid posted:And 220 watts lol goddamn rip in piss amd
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Aug 6, 2015 05:53
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Nintendo Kid posted:And 220 watts the new intel chips have been bumped up to 95 watts. amd's prospects are looking up, uP, UP!
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As long as Zen is close to Skylake in terms of single-threaded performance, there is a lot of things that AMD can do to stay competitive Intel. For example, price top of the line 6-core Zen at i7 prices, top of the line 4-core Zen at i5 prices, and slower 4-core Zen at i3 prices. Given that Skylake is barely an improvement over Haswell, AMD's chances of survival look slightly better.
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Aug 6, 2015 07:36
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amd ftw. hot fast and powerful, like a pc should be. rip to amd. too good for this world
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amd should just double down on ownage and require one of those super high voltage lines or whatewver like you use for the dryer and get serious about ownage and frags. low power, low heat, low headshot fags can buy intels for the laptops. master gamers need power. im willing to run another line from the city to my hoiuse to power my ultimate rig. also, forget about cores. get the ghz. 10, 15, 20. go wild. get powerful.
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 quote:Well, one pro is that you get a processor that is fairly comparable to an Intel i7 in performance, and most importantly, you'll be giving your money to a company that didn't try to screw you by attempting to corner the market through extortionate threats to their own OEM customers if they used AMD CPUs when they were better than Intel's.
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longer is better. and from where im sitting, amd is kicking intels sorry rear end and not taking any names
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jony ive aces posted:in b4 everyone gets shaggared about using metric units metric is good
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If you highlighted the amd thing at the top instead it would send a slightly different message
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Syncopated posted:If you highlighted the amd thing at the top instead it would send a slightly different message That you can waste 140 watts for doing nothing on a poo poo CPU?
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Rosoboronexport posted:That you can waste 140 watts for doing nothing on a poo poo CPU? my watts!!
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Tokamak posted:the new intel chips have been bumped up to 95 watts. for the unlocked desktop models, the laptop models will be much different, i am sure.
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kwinkles posted:for the unlocked desktop models, the laptop models will be much different, i am sure. yeah it seems like they optimized for lower power SKUs and just goosed the voltage and TDP a bit to create an "enthusiast" desktop part staggered launch presumably means either that they can't make that many (after 2 years of trying to unfuck 14nm) or that maybe Apple is buying them all
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Intel doesn't care about desktop chips anymore. their main targets are server and notebook. don't expect any real movement in the performance of desktop-class chips in the near future.
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Father Jack posted:e4300 crew represent mine wouldn't push past 2.8ghz even with volt tweaks and stay stable but u rollsl the dice. still abv good overclock and iti ran at like 22c at idle still
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sincx posted:As long as Zen is close to Skylake in terms of single-threaded performance, there is a lot of things that AMD can do to stay competitive Intel. so if amd literally doubled single-thread performance, they could conceivably be competitive? "if amd performance was competitive, their products could be competitive!" is true but also meaningless. it restates the problem sincx posted:For example, price top of the line 6-core Zen at i7 prices, top of the line 4-core Zen at i5 prices, and slower 4-core Zen at i3 prices. Given that Skylake is barely an improvement over Haswell, AMD's chances of survival look slightly better. intel's 2012 chips are still faster than what amd is shipping in 2015 price is not the issue
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if you buy an amd processor you are literally, unironically retarded
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Citizen Tayne posted:A Massive Disaster
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pram posted:if you buy an amd processor you are literally, unironically retarded Being awfully hard on console havers.
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i have a little low-power hp thin-client type system at home that i've been usign as an ssh tunnel host for a few years now, it's got like some athlon proc at 700mhz or something. kill-a-watt says it idles at 19w. okay. same kill-a-watt says a dell optiplex with a haswell i7 and 32GB of RAM idles at 33w. owned
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Being awfully hard on console havers. Garbage people deserve garbage products, no apology, trump out. maniacdevnull fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i have a little low-power hp thin-client type system at home that i've been usign as an ssh tunnel host for a few years now, it's got like some athlon proc at 700mhz or something. kill-a-watt says it idles at 19w. okay. If all you're doing is ssh stuff, wouldn't a raspi work well enough and consume waaaaay less power?
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probably, although that would have been a purchase, and i got the hp box for free from a friend. electricity's dirt cheap where i live, if i'm doing the math right it's like  to keep that thing on for a year
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