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Mandy Thompson posted:The take away from this is not whether or not China is worse than the US or that the US is equal to China but rather then presuming to tell other countries how to do things, we should consider what is happening in our own backyard. Another reason to hold America to a high standard is that I live here. As is said in the bible, "Physician, heal yourself." As is said in the bible "This is a lovely tu quoque and you come across as dumb to anyone who is informed when making it" Matthew 23:17 peace out brah
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TheImmigrant posted:Right, two things that are imperfect are necessarily exactly the same. An unwarranted parking ticket and burning a person at the stake for heresy are both unjust, and therefore we should consider them exactly the same. To consider degree is racist. To be fair unwarranted parking tickets are pretty unjust and we should think about getting our own house in order before talking poo poo about other country's burning people at the stake.
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welp D&D: was the Soviet Union worse than the British Empire discussion #29345
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Fojar38 posted:I wish you'd go to North Korea. dude it's pointless to argue horselord is like an unironic stalinist that even most of the hard left stays away from basically someone who should be thanking marx that the revolution is never gonna happen in his life time because he's gonna be this revolutions's version of zinoviev or kamnev and lined up against his own wall and shot
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computer parts posted:There's lots of North Koreans in the Chinese border towns so I imagine they'd give you a different (even if it's not unbiased) perspective. Yeah but then again somehow I doubt horselord went to revisionist china to interview those said north kroeans
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Jul 21, 2015 19:50
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The Ron Paul cannot fail he cannot only be failed
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HorseLord posted:The KCNA publishes in multiple languages. The North Korean media don't publish the crazier parts of it in english though
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Jul 22, 2015 19:00
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nopantsjack posted:Any nation that dominates the rest of the world in terms of its military and also actively uses it is basically by nature the most violent if you measure that in terms of outcomes. wow when do you think the sheeple are going to wake up and realize this
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Jul 23, 2015 08:22
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fspades posted:And why do we need this hegemon again? if the us went away tomorrow you just replace a sort of global hegemony with several regional ones the net effect probably won't be much better
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fspades posted:So you are tolerating the US murdering thousands on a regular basis to keep its hegemonic position because you just have a feeling that the alternative world where the US isn't the world hegemon would just be the same. Ok, then. Because while the us will gently caress with you if you get in its way it cares mostly about money and power a lot of regional actors OTOH have centuries old feuds with neighboring ethnics and religious groups. For them loving with said groups matters nearly as much if not more than money and power even when they aren't in the way. See ISIS and the yazidi
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Jul 23, 2015 19:14
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I think all of us understands there are shitloads stuff the us do is pretty evil, especially during the cold war era. otoh i think events in the last couple of years have reminded us too that you can do a lot worse than the us
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Jul 23, 2015 19:54
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Not to mention quite a few targets of historical US imperialism i.e vietnam and the philipines are today all but begging the us to stay in their region to protect them against potential regional hegemon china
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Jul 23, 2015 20:06
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kapparomeo posted:I suppose we ought to be fair to HorseLord - he himself would probably do very well as a guest of the Middle Kingdom. The CPC needs Useful Idiots to be their stooges in the wider world as much as Comrade otoh plenty of said useful idiots living in the ussr found themselves unfortunately purged during the 1930s
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Rent-A-Cop posted:He already did for a couple pages then mysteriously went silent when KCNA's website started working again and it turned out that the DPRK is, in fact, indefensible. Does the horse get turned into glue after the act?
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