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ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
Lol if you havent read the Caro books. Just lol. Still lolling.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR_myjOr0OU

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Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

mah bunghole

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

DutchDupe
Dec 25, 2013

How does the kitty cat go?

...meow?

Very gooood.
how many kids did you kill today?

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

The physicality of Lyndon Johnson extended into areas besides that of argument. During the 1940’s, Capitol Hill was, of course, very much a man’s world, in which locker-room humor and morals were common; besides, almost half the members of the House, having been raised on farms, were accustomed to earthiness. But even some of these men were startled at Lyndon Johnson’s earthiness. “He would piss in the parking lot of the House Office Building,” says Wingate Lucas, a farm boy who represented Fort Worth. “Well, a lot of fellows did that. I did it. But the rest of us would try to hide behind a car or something. Lyndon wouldn’t. He just didn’t care if someone noticed him.” In fact, Lucas says, he seemed to want to be noticed. “I remember once, we were walking across the lot and some [female] secretaries were behind us, and he just stopped and began to take a piss right in front of them.”

He would also urinate in front of his own secretaries---and since some of them were attractive young women, this, too, was startling to those who witnessed it. During the years in the House, he had a one-room hideaway office on the top floor of the House Office Building---without a toilet, but with a wash-basin in the corner of the room., concealed behind a wood and green-burlap screen. While entertaining guests in the hideaway, or dictating to a secretary, he would pull the screen aside and urinate in the basin. Sometimes he would put the screen back before he did so---and sometimes he wouldn’t.

He had always displayed a great pride in his sexual apparatus. Even at college, where sexual boastfulness is a staple of campus existence, Lyndon Johnson’s boastfulness---and exhibitionism about his sexual prowess---had been striking to his fellows. Exhibiting his penis to his roomates, Johnson called it “Jumbo”; returning to his room after a date, he would say, “Jumbo had a real workout tonight,” while relating physical details of the evening, including details of his companion’s most intimate anatomy. And if he was urinating in a bathroom of the House Office Building and a colleague came in, Johnson, finishing, would sometimes turn to him with his penis in his hand. Without putting it back in his pants, he would begin a conversation, still holding it, “and shaking it, as if he was showing off,” says one man with whom he did this. He asked another man, “Have you ever seen anything as big as this.”

None of the body parts customarily referred to as “private” were private when the parts were Lyndon Johnson’s. Nervous and restless, he couldn’t seem in public to stop moving, and among the movements was an inordinate amount of scratching; of his chest, of his stomach---and of areas not generally scratched in public. He was constantly pulling his trousers lower, either in front or back, while complaining about his tailor’s failure to provide him with sufficient “ball room,” and he was continually, openly and at length, scratching his rear end---quite deeply into his rear end sometimes. He would plunge a hand into a side pocket of his trousers and scratch his groin. “Crude,” says Representative Richard Bolling of Missouri. “Crude. Barnyard. Always scratching his crotch and picking his nose in mixed company. I’ll never forget----one time he had some injury---hernia or something---and even with the girls present in his office he pulled his pants down to show it. And he’d sit at his desk, and it wouldn’t matter if there was a woman there---he’d pull up his scrotum while talking. We men used to be a bit embarrassed.”

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I think I am going to have to gas this thread unless someone makes it specifically about LBJ's election and/or campaign.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Ralp posted:

I think I am going to have to gas this thread unless someone makes it specifically about LBJ's election and/or campaign.

LBJ 2016

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Given that the Court's opinion in Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. ___ (2013) effectively guts the Voting Rights Act of 1965—a law that Johnson personally championed—does anyone expect that we'll see LBJ's dick-swinging wraith enact some manner of spectral vengeance this election cycle? If so, in what form will his ghostly anger manifest?

DutchDupe
Dec 25, 2013

How does the kitty cat go?

...meow?

Very gooood.

Squizzle posted:

Given that the Court's opinion in Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. ___ (2013) effectively guts the Voting Rights Act of 1965—a law that Johnson personally championed—does anyone expect that we'll see LBJ's dick-swinging wraith enact some manner of spectral vengeance this election cycle? If so, in what form will his ghostly anger manifest?

Signs point to yes

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Ralp posted:

I think I am going to have to gas this thread unless someone makes it specifically about LBJ's election and/or campaign.

On the other hand, the man had an enormous penis or so I hear

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Actually there are fun LBJ election topics:

1) 1956, he crashes Adlai's coronation and refuses to withdraw because he just wants it so bad and he's wanted it for so long and god damnit he's the youngest best Senate Majority Leader in history

and better

2) 1968, he plans to crash Humphrey and unite the party after making a peace deal with North Vietnam that, no joke, Richard Nixon treason'd into dust. Now this is newer reporting and seems incredible to me - How serious were the peace talks, what exactly were the stipulations, why did LBJ stay silent about Nixon's poo poo and stay so friendly with him? Ok and, assuming LBJ created a workable treaty, would he have a chance at the nomination? Could he've gone on to beat Nixon?

I'm sure serious Johnson-heads know a lot more, he ran a lot and the dude was a once in a generation political genius. Which makes his presidency all the more disappointing for its disasters and unfulfilled potential.

Mia Wasikowska has issued a correction as of 18:40 on Jul 21, 2015

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Ralp posted:

I think I am going to have to gas this thread unless someone makes it specifically about LBJ's election and/or campaign.

but it already was

LBJ being a bully and crass is iconic to his career

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
Like everybody else in Texas politics at the time, LBJ commited hilarious amounts of fraud to get himself elected to the senate. The first time he was actually out-frauded by "Pappy" O'Daniel, so the next time he basically had an entire county vote for him in alphabetical order with the same pen and handwriting, and won the election by 87 votes.

He called himself Landslide Lyndon after that.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


He must've been really obnoxious to the democratic establishment before he became it because they put him in there as VP to grab the southern vote for JFK then sidelined his rear end best they could till that unfortunate bullet in dallas

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

Mr. Pumroy posted:

mah bunghole

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

This is a LBJ quote btw, not just a shitpost.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
my favorite story about lbj was during biafra. it was really the first "we need to do something for these poor starving africans" moment in us history. with the ten cents a day commercials and all that, only it got ten times more publicity than what we're used to. this pissed lbj off, because now he had a whole bunch of people demanding that he give aid to a bunch of blacks in some far off land and filling up his tv with a bunch of crap. so he approved millions of dollars in aid for the biafrans and in the process of doing that, he told the secretary of state "just get those drat friend of the family babies off my tv set."

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
So if everybody knew that the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was a compromised piece of poo poo, why'd LBJ get any sort of credit for it? Was it only with years of hindsight that people figured out that it didn't actually do anything?

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

gradenko_2000 posted:

So if everybody knew that the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was a compromised piece of poo poo, why'd LBJ get any sort of credit for it? Was it only with years of hindsight that people figured out that it didn't actually do anything?

They had to compromise it to death to get anything past those southern animals in the senate, and even then it was quite the feat.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

As far as im concerned, BJ is the only real black president.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Dude clawed his way to the top from really humble beginnings in a part of the country that was dedicated to resisting everything he ever fought for, he gets all this poo poo done, fucks up by escalating vietnam, that's all he's remembered for, presidency taxes his body so hard he dies a couple years later with a legacy constantly poo poo on by liberals for Vietnam and called a socialist by conservatives for his insane and awesome domestic policy.

He's really cool in my book. One of the only Texas politicians I have any serious respect for.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
I enjoy reading about his blatant sexual harassment

Izumi Konata
May 4, 2012

by Ralp

rear end cobra posted:

This is a LBJ quote btw, not just a shitpost.

Quite true. I feel it is intended to be a satirical display of one in power who is too preoccupied with a tricky dick to sweat over the small stuff (like burdensome articles such as a legitimate bible when being sworn into office, or pants, when addressing a group of countrymen, or even due process, when compiling an executive list of naysayers, dingleberries, emissions signifying venerial malaise, or unkempt rear end hair who/which might disrupt his legislative circus during his seat in office).

They say when a Big Johnson is in office, the royal ballroom requires big pants, and big pants must be worn above the waist. In times of famine the waistline wanes, bt an age of prosperity causes it to wax big and fat. I concur with the need for special tailoring to fit articles beneath the beltline so as to keep the head of state from showing his rear end. After all, spare the belt on someone who shows his rear end, and you are no different than the hoodlum class of troublemakers and rabble who test the legislation simply to create a ruckus.

LBJ is characterised as the man on the moon, and during the day, he needs custom-fit trousers to hide it.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

rear end cobra posted:

those southern animals in the senate

I want to throttle Jim Eastland and Dick Russell from across time and space.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Zas posted:

Actually there are fun LBJ election topics:

2) 1968, he plans to crash Humphrey and unite the party after making a peace deal with North Vietnam that, no joke, Richard Nixon treason'd into dust. Now this is newer reporting and seems incredible to me - How serious were the peace talks, what exactly were the stipulations, why did LBJ stay silent about Nixon's poo poo and stay so friendly with him? Ok and, assuming LBJ created a workable treaty, would he have a chance at the nomination? Could he've gone on to beat Nixon?

I don't know if the treaty was workable but Johnson stayed silent about Nixon's fuckery because they learned about it through NSA wiretaps. They had basically the North Vietnamese delegation wired up and they didn't want anyone to know they did that or were capable of doing it in the first place.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

gradenko_2000 posted:

I want to throttle Jim Eastland and Dick Russell from across time and space.

My favorite is the 5 foot white suprematist senator from Mississippi by the name of Bilbo.

Paper With Lines
Aug 21, 2013

The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!

Ralp posted:

I think I am going to have to gas this thread unless someone makes it specifically about LBJ's election and/or campaign.

There is a section in Fear and Loathing 72 where Thompson tells a story about LBJ calling his opponent a pig fucker during a Senate campaign.

quote:

…(I)n both the Ohio and Nebraska primaries, back to back, McGovern was confronted for the first time with the politics of the rabbit-punch and the groin shot, and in both states he found himself dangerously vulnerable to this kind of thing. Dirty politics confused him. He was not ready for it….

This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas. The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumor campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his own barnyard sows.

“Christ, we can’t get a way calling him a pig-fucker,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”

“I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitch deny it.”

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
LBJ won the biggest general election landslide in modern history by the way

61.1% :getin:

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

hemophilia posted:

He must've been really obnoxious to the democratic establishment before he became it because they put him in there as VP to grab the southern vote for JFK then sidelined his rear end best they could till that unfortunate bullet in dallas

He pretty much was the democratic establishment in the senate himself, but the Kennedy people certainly didn't like him (LBJ and RFK loving hated each other) for anything other that helping with the south in 1960. There has been some talk that Kennedy was thinking about dropping Johnson from the ticket in '64 which of course is why LBJ went ahead and killed JFK.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

If you believe Caro, Johnson was always sympathetic to civil rights, and his voting record against it was just to get ahead in southern politics until he had the power to actually do something. Looks like it worked, sorta...

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

rear end cobra posted:

He pretty much was the democratic establishment in the senate himself, but the Kennedy people certainly didn't like him (LBJ and RFK loving hated each other) for anything other that helping with the south in 1960. There has been some talk that Kennedy was thinking about dropping Johnson from the ticket in '64 which of course is why LBJ went ahead and killed JFK.

Also JFK talked about reigning in the CIA/NSA so it became a marriage of convenience. LBJ goes along with the gulf of tonkin as his pound of flesh.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

hemophilia posted:

Dude clawed his way to the top from really humble beginnings in a part of the country that was dedicated to resisting everything he ever fought for, he gets all this poo poo done, fucks up by escalating vietnam, that's all he's remembered for, presidency taxes his body so hard he dies a couple years later with a legacy constantly poo poo on by liberals for Vietnam and called a socialist by conservatives for his insane and awesome domestic policy.

He's really cool in my book. One of the only Texas politicians I have any serious respect for.

he was a good president who won by a landslide bigger than almost any president before him, the Great Society took more people out of poverty than the New Deal and he basically prevented a nuclear war by keeping goldwater out of power.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


He probably would have been FDR tier if not for Vietnam

Here's LBJ attempting to order some pants over the phone. A little before 2:00 is where it all goes classic Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3GT9UN7nDo

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
There's an awful lot of "LBJ killed JFK" videos in the sidebar.

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
This thread is good thank you. :) Pretty good subforum so far imho.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
please stop probating people for quoting lbj thanks

Michael Transactions
Nov 11, 2013

ive been reading the caro biography for months eveyrone

Michael Transactions
Nov 11, 2013

rear end cobra posted:

Lol if you havent read the Caro books. Just lol. Still lolling.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR_myjOr0OU

hell yess

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I just finished Master of the Senate this afternoon. Book owns and I wish I had the rest/more.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
Caro is 79 and uses around 10 years per book. Passage of Power came out in 2012.

Please dont die.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
Johnson called his kids Lynda Bird and Luci Baines since you have to really oversell your acronym to be a real memorable president like FDR. That's probably the real reason why he married Lady Bird as well.

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Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

rear end cobra posted:

Johnson called his kids Lynda Bird and Luci Baines since you have to really oversell your acronym to be a real memorable president like FDR. That's probably the real reason why he married Lady Bird as well.

"FDR, LBJ. FDR, LBJ! You understand?!?"

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