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Broccoli Cat
Mar 8, 2013

"so, am I right in understanding that you're a bigot or aficionado of racist humor?




STAR CITIZEN is for WHITES ONLY!




:lesnick:
Yeah, so pussies and retards hate this guy to pieces.

Clown hair

Says stupid poo poo.

Has balls.

Understands grownup poo poo like business and how we all need jobs, even if we're pretending to be socialists.

I'm in just to anger twats...you?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

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Lyapunov Unstable
Nov 20, 2011
Actually presidents do not have much power so despite Trump's best efforts he may fail

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





I, too, am an accelerationist

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
There is, however, another parallel right-wing drive, the “other” side of reaction’s Möbius strip—the same side, really. It emerges, for instance, in phrases like Barry Goldwater’s campaign slogan: “In Your Heart You Know He’s Right.” Or “Silent Majority”: Richard Nixon’s phrase, deployed in a November 1969 speech two weeks after the largest antiwar demonstration in human history, the National Moratorium Day, when approximately 2 million Americans from all walks of life, in cities and small towns alike, took the day off from work or school to protest the Vietnam War. They express a core conservative contention: that there are certain things that a vast majority of Americans know to be true, even if propriety—or the liberal thought police, what Nixon called by implication the silencing minority—do not allow them to say.

(And the skill and determination deployed by conservatives in convincing each other that the vast majority of Americans—and all “real” Americans—believe what they do is bottomless. The Gallup poll? As Phyllis Schlafly explained in 1964, they ask “a lot of questions of a very few people” until they “come up with answers that [please] the New York kingmakers.”)

This particular understanding of the gap between public profession and private confession is one of the five or six things most fundamental to conservative thought. The spectacle of Republicans lowering a flag could not be more public. The act of a Republican anonymously telling a pollster what she really believes about the candidate with the guts to call Mexicans what they “really” are, which is barely-human vermin, is not so public. Significantly, one of two polls that finds Trump ahead by four points was staged by YouGov, which does its polling online, without requiring respondents to talk to another, possibly judgmental, human being—about as private as a political act could be.

Another eminently private political act, of course, is entering a voting booth. Which was what Barry Goldwater was trying to encourage when he invited people to have the courage to vote what they knew in their hearts. The work of conservative politics is, at bottom, the attempt to create the conditions to flush out the forbidden truths that Americans supposedly bear in their breasts—the “conscience of the conservative” to borrow another Goldwater idiom—from the realm of secrecy into the arena of policy.

Timing, though, is everything. The annals of conservative history are full of documents not meant for public consumption, theorizing over the stand-or-fall question of for how long time needs to be bided before the subterranean truth can practically be surfaced
, and how the ground can best be prepared for the crucial moment: the Cato Institute’s 1983 “Leninist strategy” for privatizing Social Security; the Discovery Institute’s 1998 “Wedge Document” for undoing the teaching of evolution. Timing, however, demands discipline.

And discipline is precisely what the demented Mr. Trump lacks most.

This helps explain why the Trump business finds Republicans in such political disarray. Soon after Trump’s immigration utterances, Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona (95 percent lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union, 99 percent from the Koch Brothers’ Americans for Prosperity), called for the Maricopa County Republican Party to pull its sponsorship of last weekend’s Trump campaign rally: “I don’t think that [Trump’s] views are reflective of the party, particularly in Arizona, a border state.” He also called Donald Trump “coarse.” That was the old way to play it.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, on the other hand, was thrilled to read the political cues differently. She said, “I believe that Mr. Trump is telling it like it really, truly is.” Arizona’s Republican rank-and-filers, ecstatic to finally find someone to say what they know in their hearts to be true, plainly agreed: thousands of them turned out to the Phoenix Convention Center to hear Trump cry, “The silent majority is back, and we’re going to take our country back.”

All these figures, the censorious Flake, the welcoming Brewer, and, of course, The Donald Himself, pose as daring truth tellers. The real truth-teller in this business, however, was Lindsey Graham. He’s harvested praise for being the only Republican contender willing to call Donald Trump out. But note how Graham hardly criticized the substance of what Trump wants to achieve. Graham, too, thinks we need to “secure the border” (he wants to triple the number of drones), in abject denial of the fact that the border is more “secure” by any objective measure than it’s been in a generation. He blamed 9/11 on undocumented immigration. Instead his moral objections took a back seat to utilitarian ones: “We have to reject this demagoguery. If we don’t, we will lose, and we will deserve to lose.” That gives the game away.

I’ve never seen anything that lays bare the core lineaments of conservatism so neatly: there is our tribe, which is good, true, and pure; and there are those other tribes, who are existential threats to you and me (Reagan’s favorite phrase), and must be suppressed in order for good to be preserved. “We” all know this, even if “they” don’t allow us to say this. If anything, the lowering of the Confederate flag in South Carolina opens space for this particular new longing to air this other silent truth more freely.

This is important: conservatism is like bigotry whack-a-mole. The quantity of hatred, best I can tell from 17 years of close study of 60 years of right-wing history, remains the same. Removing the flag of the Confederacy, raising the flag of immigrant hating: the former doesn’t spell some new Jerusalem of tolerance; the latter doesn’t mean that conservatism’s racism has finally been revealed for all to see. The push-me-pull-me of private sentiment and public profession will always remain in motion, and in tension.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006
godDAMN my fingers are tired from typing all that poo poo

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Hopefully if he gets your country to serve as his demented playground, he'll stop trying to turn mine into a golf course.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

TomViolence posted:

Hopefully if he gets your country to serve as his demented playground, he'll stop trying to turn mine into a golf course.

Are you kidding? He's gonna turn all of the world into golf courses now.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Venomous posted:

I, too, am an accelerationist

Maybe we'll get them on the rebound

Broccoli Cat
Mar 8, 2013

"so, am I right in understanding that you're a bigot or aficionado of racist humor?




STAR CITIZEN is for WHITES ONLY!




:lesnick:

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Are you kidding? He's gonna turn all of the world into golf courses now.


Golf courses are loving beautiful.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Broccoli Cat posted:

Golf courses are loving beautiful.

If you have no taste.

It's a field with a bunch of pasty-rear end old white dudes doddering around it slowly. It's like a free range old people's home.

Proposition Joe
Oct 8, 2010

He was a good man
Golf courses are environmentally irresponsible and poor use of land. The world would be a much better place if all golf courses were turned into housing or returned to the wilderness. Another upside of this is that the world will also be freed from golf, a boring and terrible sport.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
terrible, terrible thread. god awful

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!
get ready to see this face on your pennies, proles

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

The Oath Breaker's about to hit warphead nine Kaptain!
Vote for Trump! Why be on the sidelines of the end times when you can be making plays?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Abner Cadaver II posted:

get ready to see this face on your pennies, proles


He looks like Boris Johnson's dad.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

BlackIronHeart posted:

Why be on the sidelines of the end times when you can be making plays?

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Abner Cadaver II posted:

get ready to see this face on your pennies, proles


The pout of the next president of the United States of America.

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014
As an anti-imperialist and a Marxist-Leninist I can only support the American Empire being burdened with this man as President.

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
I wouldn't normally consider voting republican, but trump just tells it like it is!

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

Venomous posted:

I, too, am an accelerationist

I'm not sure even accelerationists could support Trump. Hit the ground too hard and you crater

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
Have the US ever had a president who has shittier hair than trump?

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Typo posted:

Have the US ever had a president who has shittier hair than trump?

James Buchanan.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Willie Tomg posted:

godDAMN my fingers are tired from typing all that poo poo

Man, how tired were they after you finished Nixonland?

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





gently caress You And Diebold posted:

I'm not sure even accelerationists could support Trump. Hit the ground too hard and you crater

Unless you're Donald Trump, in which case you hit the ground too hard, break through and keep going all the way to hell, taking America with you

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
He managed to bankrupt a casino which is the next best thing to having your own printing press. That's all that needs to be said.

Broccoli Cat
Mar 8, 2013

"so, am I right in understanding that you're a bigot or aficionado of racist humor?




STAR CITIZEN is for WHITES ONLY!




:lesnick:

Ddraig posted:

He managed to bankrupt a casino which is the next best thing to having your own printing press. That's all that needs to be said.

The customers lost all their money before they got to the casino.

That wasn't Trump who did that.

Trump pretty much only can make America great.

and "great" has been redefined as people having loving jobs

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Broccoli Cat posted:

The customers lost all their money before they got to the casino.

That wasn't Trump who did that.

Trump pretty much only can make America great.

and "great" has been redefined as people having loving jobs

Prostitution and pornography will save America! Hail Trump!

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender
“I think Hillary is a terrific woman,” Trump says in an earlier Fox News clip from 2012. “I just like her. I like her and her husband.”

Trump for Hillary 2016

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
Trump is the greatest anti-republican investment Clinton has made

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
I'm still certain he's a troll plant.

Broccoli Cat
Mar 8, 2013

"so, am I right in understanding that you're a bigot or aficionado of racist humor?




STAR CITIZEN is for WHITES ONLY!




:lesnick:

Cerebral Bore posted:

Prostitution and pornography will save America! Hail Trump!


please don't forget the coal industry

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





for real, Sanders/Trump would be so loving fun if it came down to that, even though it won't

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

I'm really happy for Trump and his talent at abusing idiot creditors, they're all scum, it's just a shame a lot of innocent people got hosed in his wake

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Willie Tomg posted:

godDAMN my fingers are tired from typing all that poo poo

you're a good poster but man you should do a second pass sometimes. not that I blame you, who wants to put effort into these forums, but that's some very smart eye glaze right there

Broccoli Cat
Mar 8, 2013

"so, am I right in understanding that you're a bigot or aficionado of racist humor?




STAR CITIZEN is for WHITES ONLY!




:lesnick:

Venomous posted:

for real, Sanders/Trump would be so loving fun if it came down to that, even though it won't



It would be pretty pure, in that they're both loving idiots, but each almost representing a vision and believing in it.

Trump would get the impulse vote, so he'd win, which is good.

AND THEN HE WOULD MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/admit-it-you-people-want-see-how-far-goes-dont-you-50895

This is pretty on point.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

hosed up if true op

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011
Trump will be forgotten once the GOP field narrows down. Remember Herman Cain?

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

TheImmigrant posted:

Trump will be forgotten once the GOP field narrows down. Remember Herman Cain?

Herman Cain has a few differences from Trump though.

He's not as famous.
He's not as rich.
He was a black candidate trying to get diehard republican votes.

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Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

TheImmigrant posted:

Trump will be forgotten once the GOP field narrows down. Remember Herman Cain?

Even if conservative voters do get tired of him I don't think the two situations have much in common.

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