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down with slavery
Dec 23, 2013
STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

AlexanderCA posted:

That's pretty goddamned racist of you.

It's actually not but who the gently caress cares about what racism actually means, right?

Just call him a racist and pat yourself on the back, job well done.

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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
i think he is racist against black people

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

corn in the bible posted:

i think he is racist against black people

Racist against Africans, maybe.

down with slavery
Dec 23, 2013
STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS
I guess it's silly for me to complain that nobody has the slightest clue what racism means when none of you know what race means either.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

down with slavery posted:

I guess it's silly for me to complain that nobody has the slightest clue what racism means when none of you know what race means either.

personally i think he is racist against the race of black people

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

down with slavery posted:

I guess it's silly for me to complain that nobody has the slightest clue what racism means when none of you know what race means either.

Racism is confusing mutable behavior with immutable characteristics like skin color. E.g., to think that a black American cannot hold unfavorable opinions of African people, merely because he is black, is racist.

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

corn in the bible posted:

personally i think he is racist against the race of black people

Your inability to write correctly is probably a function of your lack of education and laziness, but definitely not your race.

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down with slavery
Dec 23, 2013
STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

TheImmigrant posted:

Racism is confusing mutable behavior with immutable characteristics like skin color.

Nope. Maybe next quarter sign up for a Race and Gender class.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
george bush jr visited africa a lot and continues to do so

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

corn in the bible posted:

george bush jr visited africa a lot and continues to do so

Didn't know he had a cotton plantation.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Thread owns, voted 5

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Didn't know he had a cotton plantation.

your inability to write correctly is indicative of laziness

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

corn in the bible posted:

your inability to write correctly is indicative of laziness

Well you are correct

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

down with slavery posted:

Nope. Maybe next quarter sign up for a Race and Gender class.

Propose an alternate definition. I'm too old and have spent too much time on campus for more undergrad liberal arts indoctrination. I'm not going back unless to teach.

down with slavery
Dec 23, 2013
STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

TheImmigrant posted:

Propose an alternate definition. I'm too old and have spent too much time on campus for more undergrad liberal arts indoctrination. I'm not going back unless to teach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Definitions

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!
Reading Kenyan op-eds after Obama's visit is interesting.

Yash Pal Gai posted:

As far as the gay issue is concerned, religious leaders will do well to disabuse themselves of the notion that homosexuality was imported in Africa by the wicked west. Research demonstrates that homosexuality was widely tolerated in Africa as it was in India and China, and among the faiths of these places.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
i am a racist, as i enjoy participating in marathons

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011

None of those definitions are inconsistent with mine.

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001
Grimey Drawer
Hi I am racist.

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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU
So on what grounds is Obama having to answer for whether or not he is a racist? And if we could go back to pre-2008 when the accusations started that'd be terrific.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Abner Cadaver II posted:

Reading Kenyan op-eds after Obama's visit is interesting.

Not only that but it was actually the anti-gay attitudes that were imported from the west. In many of these countries the anti-gay laws still contain the exact text copied over from the British criminal code while they were under imperial rule.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Lowtechs posted:

Hi I am racist.

Just as long as you're not reverse racist. Gotta maintain the proper societal order and all.

EB Nulshit
Apr 12, 2014

It was more disappointing (and surprising) when I found that even most of Manhattan isn't like Times Square.
is obama a human centipede

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isildur
May 31, 2000

BattleDroids: Flashpoint OH NO! Dekker! IS DOWN! THIS IS Glitch! Taking Command! THIS IS Glich! Taking command! OH NO! Glitch! IS DOWN! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! OH NO! Medusa IS DOWN!

Soon to be part of the Battletech Universe canon.
This is a bad thread but this

EB Nulshit posted:

is obama a human centipede
is a good post in a bad thread.

What is Obama hiding re his butt

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

isildur posted:

This is a bad thread but this

is a good post in a bad thread.

What is Obama hiding re his butt

Junk in the trunk

http://underneathestarz.com/2013/07/28/president-barack-obama-pt-2/

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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

isildur posted:

This is a bad thread but this

is a good post in a bad thread.

What is Obama hiding re his butt

I heard on Fox he wears mom jeans, if that answers your question.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Obama's the head of state of the United States of America. He signs off on drone-striking arabs on the other side of the world because their lives are deemed to have less value than those of his electorate. That alone makes him a figurehead of a racist system, in which he plays a knowing, willing and fairly significant part. Also, he presides over a country that disproportionately executes, imprisons and otherwise discriminates against people on the basis of ethnicity. That he's half-black doesn't really diminish the role he plays in perpetuating that injustice, even if only by continuing to permit such injustices to take place.

As for having the gumption to say that women are entitled to not have their genitals mutilated, that's pretty irrelevant to whether he's racist or not.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

AlexanderCA posted:

That's pretty goddamned racist of you.

Against who, white people?

Smudgie Buggler
Feb 27, 2005

SET PHASERS TO "GRINDING TEDIUM"

SedanChair posted:

It was never even particularly legit to frame criticisms of African homophobia as racist anyway. As always you have to look at the person making the criticism and their motives. If racist people try to bring it up, it's racist as well as homophobic (not to mention an insincere, fake argument). If the person bringing it up isn't a racist, neither is the criticism.

You can't possibly believe this boneheaded Aristotelian claptrap.

How can you tell if someone is racist or not if the racism of their speech and actions is indexed to the racism of their character?

down with slavery
Dec 23, 2013
STOP QUOTING MY POSTS SO PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IDIOTS DON'T HAVE TO READ MY FUCKING TERRIBLE OPINIONS THANKS

Smudgie Buggler posted:

How can you tell if someone is racist or not if the racism of their speech and actions is indexed to the racism of their character?

You look at the character of the person making the speech and actions. I know, it's a lot to take in. Deep breaths, we'll get through this together.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Smudgie Buggler posted:

You can't possibly believe this boneheaded Aristotelian claptrap.

How can you tell if someone is racist or not if the racism of their speech and actions is indexed to the racism of their character?

In the greatest struggle life has to offer?

Smudgie Buggler
Feb 27, 2005

SET PHASERS TO "GRINDING TEDIUM"

SedanChair posted:

In the greatest struggle life has to offer?

Thunderdome?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Smudgie Buggler posted:

You can't possibly believe this boneheaded Aristotelian claptrap.

How can you tell if someone is racist or not if the racism of their speech and actions is indexed to the racism of their character?


It's generally pretty blatant when someone is concerned about young women or LGBT people and trying to make positive changes in their lives versus someone who is using minority rights as an excuse to dehumanize Africans and justify imperialism and conquest.

Most of the second group reveal themselves right away by being generally anti-gay and anti-woman except in the few instances when it's black people doing all the things they want to do here. The few who disagree with the practices themselves but are still racist are almost as obvious because they're the European supremacist Dawkins types.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

SedanChair posted:

Against who, white people?

Everyone, seeing as you're determining whether someone is racist based on the colour of their skin. I'm sure obama would be delighted to hear his defense of gay rights is only not racist because he's black. While I'm calling you racist based on your words.

Also lol I'm darker than your lily white rear end, so obviously I can be less racist than you if I were to spout the same bullshit.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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IMO we should bring back colonialism.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
That seems like a bad opinion.
Obama isn't racist and neither are the people you're trying to mischaracterize. There's perhaps a point on relativism to be made (you can't separate good & bad from social norms that cleanly), but being relativistic is not exclusive to having conviction (you just have to own it). The sentiment being expressed, 'it's necessary to forget/trash the past/traditions' is the starting block for progress. That includes anti-racism, being that race is a retroactively imagined pedigree, which you've got to forget/dismiss.

So even if you're going to mischaracterize leftist here, the...uh...'more accurate' strawman would be imperialism, not racism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tblx00nIZB0

rudatron fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Jul 27, 2015

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Fojar38 posted:

IMO we should bring back colonialism.

I'm up for retaking new Amsterdam.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Fojar38 posted:

IMO we should bring back colonialism.
TBF it's not like we could make Africa any worse.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Rent-A-Cop posted:

TBF it's not like we could make Africa any worse.

Idk Africa is not exactly a shining example of any kind of good track record for colonialism.

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Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!

Rent-A-Cop posted:

TBF it's not like we could make Africa any worse.

oh we so could though

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