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the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Matlock Birthmark posted:

Can we add Wilde Life to the list? Not sure how many other people keep up with it, but I like it.

I really like Wilde Life but man the current scene is so boring. We're up to like a month and a half worth of "spooky poltergeist girl is spooky" with practically nothing to show for it.

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May 16, 2009

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Bobulus posted:

I feel like with Wilde Life, the first story with the ghost gal was plotted, and everything since then has been stream of consciousness or something. Honestly, I'd much rather read stories like the first chapter, rather than finding out this town is built on a hellmouth does the Monster of the Week thing.

That was pretty much the premise that the first chapter was pitching, though.

I also think there was a lot more going into the second chapter than you give it credit. Yes, the chase/escape sequence also went on forever, but things were actually happening. The first chapter was a cute fun read but the second chapter got me hooked, which makes me even more annoyed that we've spent 10+ pages staring at glowing swirly bullshit.

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May 16, 2009

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HorseRenoir posted:

Grrl Power is a prime example of a lame fetish comic for weirdos that insists that it is not a lame fetish comic for weirdos, just like Spinnerette and Gold Digger

What is it with superhero comix and weirdo fetishists? I'm starting to wonder if there are any superheroes that weren't created for explicitly fetishistic reasons.

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May 16, 2009

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A.o.D. posted:

why are their noses purple? Are they all hard-core, end stage, lifelong alcoholics?

Their noses are also triangular. They are Muppets.

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May 16, 2009

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RoboCicero posted:

So in Dr. McNinja I definitely though it was Old McNinja, but now I'm guessing...evil clone? Doesn't seem like clones are too hard to come by in that universe.

Also dang, Dr. McNinja himself really deteriorated fast. I'm guessing the teeth thing is a ad-hoc sonar / echolocation thing to communicate with the merpeople?

I dunno, I still figure it's Old and he's just freaking the gently caress out because he knows that he's underequipped to convincingly pose as Doc in front of his family.

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May 16, 2009

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Wittgen posted:

Actually, having a bunch of demons inside the main castle does serve as a deterrent as long as Hunter has the daughter with him. Jimmy wouldn't risk her life.

Of course, Jimmy is to the best of our and Hunter's knowledge dead. So, uh, not sure what the hell this is all for. Other than the fact that it is very Demon-y.

It's not completely pointless: it also keeps Sweetpea in . But yeah, don't know why Hunter even needs her.

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May 16, 2009

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Mordja posted:

I don't read the comic so this all sounds like the ramblings of a schizophrenic.

So you have read the comic, then?

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May 16, 2009

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Matlock Birthmark posted:

Okay, could someone link a comic again here, I forgot to bookmark it? It was the one with the suicidal astronaut who appears to now be infected with some sorta alien fungus.

https://www.marecomic.com

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May 16, 2009

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Mind over Matter posted:

I expect there to be plenty of callbacks all over the place, probably Dracula included. I was also wondering about Doc turning out to be a Chuck, but I think for example the Chuck that came back to stop dinosaur world was born in "the future" yet, so unless Chucks are born at different times then Doc couldn't be one. It's all speculation on my part, of course.

Yeah, Chuck is from THE FUTURE. Every Chuck that appears belongs to the current "main timeline", until they orphan their own timeline by averting the catastrophe they were sent back to prevent.

No new Chuck has arrived to avert whatever future crisis exists now that the dinosaur threat has been eliminated. Another Chuck appeared in time to save the President, but that was King Radical in disguise, using the White House negazone to fake the arrival of a new time-traveling Chuck.

Crazy theory: The current timeline's Chuck is King Radical. The Radical Lands are the product of King Radical's own efforts in the present time, and Radical Chuck is from the same distant future that the other Chucks are. Now that the previous Chucks have removed enough catastrophes from the timeline for King Radical to start radicalizing Earth, Radical Chuck has created a stable time loop: he's responsible for both the creation and eventual destruction (through antagonizing Dr. McNinja into unleashing Sparklelord) of the Radical Lands, which will eventually lead to King Radical's own birth and mission into the past. But since he never realizes that he's in his own past it doesn't occur to him to safeguard his timeline, so he just repeats the errors of the previous Radical Chuck.

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May 16, 2009

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Doc and Dino-Chuck arrived in the modified dino invasion timeline about 20 years in the future, judging by how everyone else aged. Dino-Chuck said that this was far enough before his own time that he had no idea what to expect the world to be like.

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May 16, 2009

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The closest I've come to Aaron Diaz was seeing him sulking by himself at a booth at a con. Maybe he's really charming in personal interactions but that's certainly not the impression he gave off.

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May 16, 2009

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Burkion posted:

Real Talk, back when it was still current and not a fairly early part of a multi decade comic, I actually really loved the That Which Redeems storyline for everything it did and tried to do. Never felt as engrossed with anything that came after it and all of the Bun-Bun stuff was just annoying.

I have not read it in maybe a decade, but I'm sure it still holds up!

:agreed:

Every now and again Sluggy did some really cool things in between general silliness and outdated parodies.

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May 16, 2009

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Quinton posted:

The biggest unaddressed issue seems to be people who "unsubscribe" at the end of every month just before billing and then resubscribe afterwards.

The gently caress? Christ I hate people sometimes.

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May 16, 2009

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A Wizard of Goatse posted:

this isn't a mark against 'people' so much as a subscription system so profoundly loving dumb that doing this would work, to be fair

I've just always seen it as a donation system first and foremost. I know some people have incentives for supporters but I have a hard time picturing any backer incentives so important that I'd be willing to do the equivalent of withdrawing my money from the tip jar when no one is looking.

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May 16, 2009

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Scaramouche posted:

Hah, I started reading Guilded Age and was thinking at first "hey this isn't bad, but one of those names is kind of familiar??" Sure enough it was a T Campbell joint that:
- Killed off characters (or appeared to) with abandon
- Ham handed handling of prejudice/racism
- A convoluted meta plot up its own rear end

It's like you could set a watch to him.

Also MAJYCK.

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May 16, 2009

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This is more depressing than bunny comix.

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I am simultaneously impressed and disappointed that you don't recognize The Rugrats Storyboard Jam.

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May 16, 2009

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Oxxidation posted:

Demon wasn't a logic puzzle. It was either the inane scribblings of a madman or the most straight-faced joke in webcomics history. Maybe both!

The joke was definitely on the reader. The way the ending very specifically fails to resolve the story's main mystery is hilarious.

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May 16, 2009

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So beautiful.

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May 16, 2009

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After 748 pages, Vattu has finally finished its prologue and transitions into the buddy stoner comedy it was meant to be.

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May 16, 2009

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LemonRind posted:

I'm calling it now somehow it's always been his monster talking we've seen, and the wriggles of the monster are the real Rjinder trying to assert some control again.

The one doing the talking (or at least the one not doing the whispering) seems to disagree with the actions of the skin-flaps, though.

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May 16, 2009

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fritz posted:

I think Lesnick's another example of what you said a couple days ago:

and yeah the art's scribbly but it's scribbly with intent and skill, and it's things like as Oxxidation says "[his] good grasp of anatomy and action lines" which make the comic.

tbh most of the Lesnick pages I've seen were ugly indecipherable messes. Yeah, the technical skill behind them is evident and I'd bet he could do fabulous things in animation but I don't think his art works very well in a comic format.

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Twibbit posted:

For some reason I still like Girl genius. Mainly due to the characters

I just binged the last 30 months of it due to thread talk and I was pleasantly surprised. The pacing has improved immeasurably and while the faces are very not good they've at least reined in some of the worst excesses.

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SlothfulCobra posted:

I feel like the pacing is always way better when binging through the archives, since they definitely wrote everything with the completed books and chapters in mind rather than the day to day pages. It's really a page-turner that makes you want to keep going as a bunch of things happen on every page. I really liked the radio plays they used to have on their site, because they really showed what kind of frenetic pace the Foglios try to get at, and how incredibly pulpy the whole thing is.

This helps, but even on a binge the castle is still a terrible plod. The time skip was the best thing that's ever happened to the comic because it condensed the action back down to a manageable number of viewpoints (and I say this as a fan of sprawling ensemble casts.)

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Wittgen posted:

Gunnerkrigg is the best.

You might also enjoy Wilde Life. It's kind of a rural urban fantasy set in Oklahoma.

Wilde Life, incidentally, also has serious pacing issues.

This thread is pretty much just comics with pacing issues.

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Rice Boy and Order of Tales are both super high quality finished comics.

I liked Darken too, but it's pretty janky at the start. It improves a lot a long the way though.

John Allison sort of "finished" Bobbins/Scary Go Round/Bad Machinery but he never finishes them so much as he gets bored and shelves them to focus on other characters in his massive shared universe.

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JuniperCake posted:

Are you talking about needing to scroll down to see panels? Every comic on that website has that format. Makes them easier to view on phones/tablets/etc. It's more of a convention of that style of webcomic than a choice made to make a statement.

Fleuter's other work, Derelict, doesn't use that format for example.

It is a bad convention for bad webcomics. It's just as obnoxious to read on a phone as it is on a desktop; worse, actually, IMO because my desktop has a scroll wheel whereas I have to swipe continually on my phone after every individual panel. Look at this poo poo:



Like, if this was something used occasionally to create a "pregnant pause" effect that would be one thing, but no, this is in the middle of an action sequence and every single panel has that much separation or more.

If they stuck more closely to a conventional comic book type layout and put more than 1-2 tiny panels on the screen at a time it would be vastly easier to view on any device, while also being able to control the flow and pacing a lot better. Even straight-to-tumblr comics are more convenient to read than this garbage, and that's saying a lot.

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Twibbit posted:

Have you tried zooming in?

Surprisingly, making the panels and space between them larger and increasing the amount of scrolling does not, in fact, alleviate the amount of scrolling.

I did try not reading poo poo comics, though, and that seems to have done the trick.

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JuniperCake posted:

I think calling all korean webcomics garbage because you hate the format is pretty narrow minded but whatever floats your boat. Just avoid that website and all webtoons cause they'll all be like that.

I think making your webcomic garbage because other people in a certain scene make garbage comics is pretty dumb, but hey, I guess some people like wasting their effort.

It's not like every Korean webtoon out there is bad, either, since it turns out Koreans are actually not an entire race of idiot men and most of them have adopted key innovations such as:

-Putting more than one panel on a single row
-Actually filling the canvas space with most panels
-Using gutters between panels that are generally smaller than the panels they separate
-Inserting dialogue and narration between panels

Consequently, most Korean webtoons are much more readable than the English knockoffs that keep getting posted here, even if (like me) you don't actually read Korean at all.

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It's a reasonably legitimate style*, but that doesn't mean that everyone aping it has any idea what they're doing. I know this is a bit worn out as my go-to example, but the one Korean jump scare comic everyone's seen uses it to good effect, even discounting the autoscroll animations. The Sword Interval comic linked above does not.

*I suspect that the principal reasons behind it have to do more with laziness than anything else. Talented creators can use the effort that it saves and put it to good use elsewhere to produce cool and good things, but apparently at some point people just started imitating the worst parts of it without really understanding the whys and wherefores of it. Not unlike anime.

Tollymain posted:

i usually don't have the time of day for webtoons' format but sword interval is good enough that i put up with it

Yeah, if you enjoy the comic that's cool, just don't post it and then get super defensive when people mention obvious flaws.

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Didn't mean to imply that you did, sorry! You are the Gallant in this scenario to other peoples' Goofuses.

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SlothfulCobra posted:

I can't for the life of me remember, did the dog women in Vattu have a justification for killing the emperor aside from taking power for themselves?

pee pee doo doo he is a bad emperor

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Pavlov posted:

^^^ What about the really intense one with the piercing blue eyes?

He hasn't shown up (outside of flashbacks maybe?) for like 200 pages and a year and a half while we deal with dogman politics. :( I hope the current book ends soon and the story moves on, because Vattu is reaching foglioesque levels of being stuck in a castle

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A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Dahm's art style doesn't really lend itself to easily distinguishing characters when they're not like the only guy who has a TV for a head in the world but the painter, the emperor, his daughter, and super intense army guy are the only dog people that matter, everyone else is 'some courtier' or 'the housewife conspiracy' which can pretty readily be inferred from context.

the plot's also p simple, it just doesn't tie together into a single narrative so far: bored housewives formed the Illuminati so they can pretend to secretly control the empire through their husbands and one thing led to another and now they're staging a coup; emperor is sickly and worried that his empire is coming apart; painter guy doesn't really have anything to do with anything else he's just some schmuck who got drafted into trying desperately to not get executed for loving the emperor's daughter. also the title character and her smuggler kid buddies aren't involved in any of this and have no reason to care.

I think Vattu will care; she seems to like the emperor on a personal level even though she despises what he stands for. So if (when) he gets bumped off, it'll be one more reason Sahta is at the top of her shitlist, in addition to being the direct impetus for getting her out of the tower finally.

(Also, helpful tip: the principal dogpeople actors in this arc are basically color-sorted, with lighter color correlating pretty closely with higher rank. I don't know to what extent if any this is supposed to be A Thing in the worldbuilding as opposed to a simple aesthetic convention for the readers, but it does help keep track of the dogpeople.)

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I need to get around to finishing MSPA sometime. Knowing that it pissed off the fans has rekindled my interest.

As far as Dr. McNinja goes, from King Rad's perspective he is effectively trapped on Hell forever, so it wouldn't be terribly surprising if he wanted to punch out.

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Tenebrais posted:

I feel like if he does decide to drop EGS and start something from scratch as an adult, it'll be either generic urban fantasy or actual fetish porn, and won't be greatly entertaining to read either way.

Neither is EGS, so luckily nothing of value would be lost.

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Wrist Watch posted:

I've noticed most slice of life comics aren't very well received on SA tbh, I love Questionable Content despite Jacques amazing inability to draw more than five different faces.

Although to be fair most slice of life comics are terrible, so

Bad Machinery was fundamentally a slice of life/coming of age comic (despite some supernatural high jinks) and it was generally liked here, also it was not terrible.

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I think Willis actually writes perfectly serviceable superhero soap opera and wish he would go back to that. For all its flaws, It's Walky! let him get in his progressive character soundbite moments and then gloss over the real life human relationship stuff with "fuggit, aliens happen!" If he did a reboot or true spiritual successor I would read the poo poo out of it, but Willis's stuff falls flat without goofy cartoon action poo poo to prop it up and it falls flatter when he shoehorns the goofy cartoon action poo poo in where it doesn't belong.

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Typical Pubbie posted:

It is ok for people from Africa to write stories set in Africa imo

I for one am glad we have alternate history writers willing to stand up and examine tough questions like "what if things were even better for white people???"

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shitpostmodern posted:

Yeah, seconding. Also it's super weird how some of you will immediately decide that a white author must obviously agree with and condone the actions of characters who are very obviously the villains just because they are also white.

There's a rich alt-hist tradition of writing white supremacist fantasies and then hiding behind the "but they're the BAD GUYS, just because I lovingly wrote 2000 pages about how awesome things are for them doesn't mean I agree with them" argument. There's not really much to go on yet and maybe it'll turn out great, sure, but I've read this story too many times to get my hopes up.

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