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Welcome to the general webcomic thread!

This thread is designed for webcomic appreciation, commentary, criticism, and analysis. If you want to talk about the process of webcomic creation, or if you're a creator looking to talk shop with other creators, you might also try The Making Comics Thread.

What is a webcomic? I've looked at that word for ten minutes and I still somehow can't figure it out.



A "webcomic" is simply a comic which is primarily hosted on the internet. It does not include newspaper comics with an online presence (but a thread for those comics can be found here). Webcomics come in all shapes and flavors: long, short, story-based, gag-based, science fiction, superhero, slice of life, comedy, drama, sprite-based fanfiction, whatever Dresdan Codak is, etc. If you like comics at all, there's bound to be a webcomic out there which is right for you.

But I heard webcomics were bad!

Saying "webcomics are bad" is like saying "movies are bad" or "books are bad" or even just "everything is bad". Like anything else, there's good and bad stuff out there, and the nice thing about webcomics (as with most art) is that you're not forced to be exposed to ones you hate if you don't want to be; you have to go somewhere the webcomics are to find them. Webcomics aren't good or bad, they're just another art form like any other. What is true is that pretty much anyone can put a webcomic up if they want to without approval or oversight, so when it comes to quality the highs are very high and the lows are very, very low.

Which webcomics should I read?

All of them. Read every webcomic. Get to it.

Which webcomics are actually WORTH reading?

A brief list of comics broken down by category may be found in the second post of this very thread, so you can find something that appeals to you. Don't let that limit you, though. It's estimated by expert Bullshitologists that a new webcomic is created every 2.5 minutes, so there's bound to be something good out there that we've never even heard of. Do some exploring and report back.

In the event that you find a comic you think the thread should know about, feel free post about it in the thread (or PM me to make sure I see it) and I'll add it to the list. Keep in mind that we aren't trying to create a comprehensive list of comics, though, only those that are interesting for some reason, so it might not stay there too long if it doesn't have the goods. (Or if it isn't terrible enough that we want to keep an eye on it.)

I want to talk about a comic!

Perfect! Just be aware that some webcomics already have their own threads. They are as follows:

Achewood
Atomic Robo
Broodhollow
Cucumber Quest
Gunnerkrigg Court
It Hurts
MS Paint Adventures
One Punch Man
Order of the Stick
Paranatural
Prequel
Strong Female Protagonist
Unsounded

If your post is specific to one of these webcomics, please post in that thread, not this one. If there is some crossover and you are, for example, comparing a comic on this list to a newly-discovered one, then feel free to include that here.

In general, comics end up with their own threads if they tend to be discussed a lot (to the point where we'll get pages of discussion about just one comic on a regular basis); almost all comics are still discussed here. If you think that's happening, by all means make a new thread for that comic! The worst that will happen is that it languishes and dies and discussion naturally migrates back here. Also some people will post sarcastically about it for a while.

I want to talk about MY webcomic!

Go ahead, just be aware that this is primarily a thread for readers talking about comics they read, and that's the sort of discussion that's going to happen. If you are primarily looking for shop talk, you actually want the dedicated thread for that. Please be aware that people might not like your comic and might sometimes say bad things about it. Discussion is cool, but getting into slapfights on the Internet benefits nobody.

I hate these webcomics with a burning, fiery passion!

That's great. It's good that you have the capacity to hate things, we're all super proud of you. Here is a good lesson for you to learn: nobody gives a poo poo, at all.

The question is: can you say something interesting about the comic, and about why you like or hate it? Something that hasn't been said a million times before? Is it a comic the thread hasn't discussed, and can you explain why we should all like or hate it right off the bat? Can you take an old complaint and make it so funny that we all feel the joy of hatred anew? If so, by all means post in this thread about it. If not, well, it isn't that hard to get a personal blog or tumblr to complain about things where none of us have to look at it and be bored by it. We're all here to entertain and inform each other, so please at least try to do one or the other.

Just for example, here are a few things that have already pretty much been done to death. It will be difficult or impossible to find a way to say anything new about any of them.

* Dickwolves
* XKCD is for nerds and has stick figure art
* Questionable Content has very static panel construction and a soap opera plot
* Girl Genius takes forever to get anywhere
* Why are you guys still reading Demon?
* Dresdan Codak and Megatokyo are late again

This list is not comprehensive and may be expanded. In general, if you're just dropping by to say you don't like something without explaining why, you should reexamine your life choices. Only you can help you, man. Only you can help you.

FURRIES! NOT THE FURRIES!

A comic having cat-people or whatever in it is not a reason to hate it. I realize this may sound controversial if you're stumbling onto this thread at random from some other part of Something Awful, but people here will straight up stab you in the face if you say anything bad about Lackadaisy Cats, Cucumber Quest, or Cheap Thrills (of blessed memory).

Here's a relevant quote from Tracy Butler (link to tumblr), Lackadaisy's writer and artist:

quote:

Anonymous asked: How do you feel about your comic being associated with the furry fandom? Do you mind that readers often assume your characters are actual cat people?

The fact that they’re cats is rather beside the point. The story isn’t about them being cats. It’s intended as a playful visual for the comic more than anything else, but whether a reader sees them as literal cats, as cartoons, as punny metaphors for otherwise human characters, or whatever is really up to the reader. The fact that they’re reading it at all - hopefully because they enjoy it - is the part that matters to me.

That the comic has been associated with the furry fandom has been detrimental on the whole. I need to clarify why, though, and it’s not because I’ve had any troubles with people who identify as furries. It’s because the terror of being mistaken for a furry (presumably for liking something with animals in it) turns certain individuals into obnoxious, insecure, trumpeting assholes. I’ve learned to stop caring when that happens in forum discussions or even right in front of me at comic conventions, but when it happens at, say, a corporate level (and it has) then I get kind of pissed off. I’m sure there are plenty of legitimate reasons to dismiss or dislike my comic, but for those of you who do it because junior high school level internet politics hold sway over some part of your real life decision-making, you should probably be less concerned about furries and more concerned about just what is wrong with you.

…And that’s probably enough pontificating from me for the evening.

Sometimes people just feel like the best way to handle their comic is to put talking animals into it, and sometimes it's useful to give the talking animals hands. It isn't always because they have no imagination or are trying to support some kind of fetish.

In summary: don't hate a comic because it has furries in it. Hate it because it has Sonic MPREG in it.

What's the policy for posting images?

Post them. Webcomics are a visual medium and having an example of the work in front of you is going to help a lot when it comes time to discuss it. Make sure you follow the forum rules when you do it, though. (But you're already following those every time you post, right?)

Here are some guidelines that might help:

1. Don't break tables by using huge images. Scale them down first or use timg if you don't know how to do that.
2. Don't hotlink images. If you do that, everyone in the thread is using the webcomic creator's bandwidth without actually going to their site. Put the image into something like imgur or minus first and use that.
3. Don't turn the thread into an RSS feed. We don't need to see every single Penny Arcade (and the thread would tear itself to pieces if we did), just post examples that you think are interesting or that you want to talk about.
4. Don't post anything that is or that you fear might be Not Safe For Work. Just link to it instead in that case.
5. Link to the original site somewhere in your post so we can go look at the rest of the comic if we want.

Sometimes people feel leery about posting the most recent page of a comic out of a well-intentioned desire to not take revenue away from the artist. You shouldn't feel badly about this, though; part of the purposes of this thread is to help people find comics that they like, and if they don't see some, how will they know? In the long run, you're actually helping artists that you like by getting them new readers.

Why do you all keep saying that Ryan Sohmer has a tiny, shrivelled penis? Isn't that a bit personal?

We'll often tend to project the work onto the people that do the work. This is sometimes regrettable, but given that the Internet as a medium encourages a direct connection between creator and consumer, it's essentially inevitable. Some amount of discussion of the creators of webcomics is going to happen.

We have to walk a line here, though; it's not okay for us to go Internet Detective on the authors, harass them, stalk them, or in any other way invade their privacy. Things that they have said and done publicly are fair game, but are really only germane to the thread if they have a direct bearing on the comic they produce (or webcomics in general). Don't be a loving creep, basically.

How can I support webcomics?

Many successful webcomics now have shops with merchandise. Also, clicking on banner ads can provide revenue on some sites if you can bring yourself to do that. Many sites will have donation links as well, and these days comics will periodically run Kickstarters or similar fundraisers to print books. Patreon is also popular these days; it's a service that automatically bills you periodically and donates the money to the creator, and is super convenient to use. If someone has a comic on the web, they usually will arrange some way you can give them money, and giving comic creators money is the best way of supporting them.

You can also leave nice comments and send polite e-mails to the creators, especially if you can't afford to donate (or don't quite like the comic THAT much). Please note that a polite e-mail does not include phrases like "I touch myself whenever I think about you", "I want to have your babies", or "I am standing under your window right now wearing a Nixon mask and carrying fourteen bottles of Zima". Just tell them you like how they draw things, for God's sake.

Webcomic creators love being told their work is good, because people who complain about it are frequently more motivated to contact them, so it's easy to think everyone hates your stuff if nobody who likes it speaks up. Of course, some kinds of feedback are less useful than others:



Is there an IRC channel for webcomicking it up?

Sure. It's #webcomics on irc.synirc.net. It isn't too busy, but go nuts.

Where are the previous versions of this thread?

* The Webcomic Readers' Thread
* Webcomics Thread 2: Now Found in Barnes & Noble
* Webcomics Thread 3: Posting with an Irregular Update Schedule

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THE ALL-STARS

These are the comics that 90% or more of the thread agree are good. They are not completely without blemish, but overall they are all worth reading.

Bouletcorp: A well-known French comic artist's amazing works online in three languages!
Cucumber Quest: The colorful and positively adorable adventures of some bunny children, created by the very skilled Gigi Digi. If you like any of the Super Mario RPGs, you'll enjoy this. [store]
Gunnerkrigg Court: The adventures of a young girl and her best friend, the two of whom study at Gunnerkrigg Court, a technological wonderland which borders a mystical forest. No description of this webcomic will do it credit, so you'll have to take it on trust that this is a story you don't want to miss. The art changes styles after the first few chapters, so if you're having trouble getting into it, at least read until that point. [store] [patreon]
Lackadaisy: A phenomenally-rendered sepia-tone comic about rum-running in St. Louis during the Prohibition. Now updating regularly thanks to Patreon! [store] [patreon]
Nedroid: Hilarious, crazy, adorable, astounding, divine, life-changing, and potentially anti-carcinogenic: Nedroid has been called some of these things. No matter the labels, Nedroid is a wonderful comic and fully deserving of the attention it has gained. Don't miss Party Cat! [store] [patreon]
Oglaf: The most best :nws: comic you'll ever read. Oglaf is a pornographic fantasy strip that revels in amazingly clever absurdity. Look out for the navigation; many stories have several parts! [store]

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Goon-made Comics:

Comics made by goons. Since people are interested in reading comics from other Something Awful users, these have been separated for your convenience. Please note that Gunnerkrigg Court from the list above is also made by a Something Awful user (Tea-san).

Atomic Robo by Hyperactive: Rule #5: The Main Robot Punches A Different Robot (Or Maybe A Monster)
The Adventures of Dr. McNinja by Doctor McNinja: Yes, that is actually the title. Yes, it's actually a good webcomic. A doctor (who is also a ninja) protects his city with the assistance of a velociraptor-riding former circus boy, a gorilla receptionist, and sometimes even his mom, dad, and little brother.
Astral Aves by Space-Bird: a coming-of-age story with some amazing use of color. If you like Cucumber Quest, you might give this a shot.
Bad Reputation by Tank! with background work by Dvega: Pirates! loving PIRATES!
Beyond the Canopy by Blaine the Train: In a fantastic world, a young leaf-headed boy goes on a journey of self-discovery. And also an actual journey, like, with walking.
Bittersweet Candy Bowl by SuitCase874 and partner: A slice-of-life comic with anthropomorphic animals. Very cute and worth looking at if that sort of comic is up your alley.
Blasphemous Saga Fantasy by Fortis: Fantasy adventure comic. The scene may or may not be stolen by various monsters and golems.
Bob 'n Ed by Phylodox: Sort of a gag-a-day strip, it just sometimes takes more than a day. Occasionally has aliens. (Always has bros.)
Curia Regis by RobinPierce: Rex mortuus est. Vivatne regina?
Dead Winter by Reiley: During the zombie apocalypse, the survivors (in dwindling numbers) do their best to carry on despite personal agendas, lack of combat skills, unfriendly factions, and a crazy guy who beheads pretty blonde girls.
Devoto by Pick: What is the value of beauty? Faust thought his soul was a fair trade, but perhaps there are other bargains to be made. :nws: for explicit everything.
Doomsday, My Dear by Grantaire: In the face of a plague which might mean the last generation of mankind, how much of our humanity will we give up in the name of survival? It's doomsday, my dear.
Ellie Starling's Very Long Walk by Travis343: A fantasy-themed adventure story about a little girl. If you're a fan of the Legend of Zelda series, give this one a look.
The End by Angry Diplomat and raaaan: Aliens decide to engage in a desperate, last-ditch effort to save the human race by kidnapping con attendees to start a new human colony.
A Ghost Story by fun hater: A ghost story. But is a ghost story really the ghost's story?
The Intrepid Girlbot by Dianasaur Go!: A story about a robot who is also a girl who is also a robot. Enjoy her wacky robot adventures and accidental animal murder.
Iothera by Rincewind: A comic that contains the word "astrothaumatology" (the study of magic in space), and that should tell you a great deal of what you need to know. Sometimes :nws:.
Kill Six Billion Demons by Operant: So far, it's only really about a dozen demons, but there's plenty of time! Features a really weird, imaginative world with inhabitants to match. Also takes a certain amount of reader input, so be ready to sharpen your mind and PRAISE YISUN.
Latchkey Kingdom: A humor/adventure story starring a young girl. The first chapter is heavily inspired by the Legend of Zelda games.
Mythos by Kismet: Fireside tales of god and man, and the wide world that lies between.
On the Shoulders of Giants by Mercury Hat: A post-apocalyptic slice of life.
Over the Wall by faxmaster: The story of a girl who goes over the wall into an ancient city, and what she finds there. Once you're done with that, move on to the sequel, Stonebreaker.
Poppy O'Possum: Part slice-of-life home comedy with animals, part fantasy adventure story, all crazy. (And awesome.)
Prequel Adventures by Kazerad: An Oblivion (as in the game) themed comic starring a catgirl. Much better than it sounds from that description. The artist tends to be a controversial figure.
Prince of Sartar: The history of the Gloriantha role-playing setting, now in webcomic form!
Riverside Extras by a bloody icon: A comic about the relationships and rivalries of the members of two gangs in a city called Riverside set just pre-Prohibition.
Rusty & Co. by ZnCu: A fantasy parody comic starring a rust monster, a mimic, and a gelatinous cube. No, really.
Serious Engineering: Everyone knows that cyborgs are cool, but what would being one really mean?
Templar, AZ by DarthVersace: A long-form webcomic about the inhabitants of a town in Arizona that, remarkably, doesn't exist. It might exist in an alternate history, but in Arizona, who can tell?
The Last Cowboy by sweetguts: The human race is slowly dying. Its legacy might well be in the hands of a small girl raised by aliens, and a handful of scientists studying them. Will we continue, and what will we leave behind?
Three Word Phrase by Fifthace: Very odd and kooky gag comics. Also butt-abs and your bee game.
Widdershins by Kojiro: This pentagram was clearly inscribed by a left-handed forty-year-old man from Surrey, and if I catch that wanker I'll shoot him right in the bollocks. The game is bloody well afoot now!
You Suck by SuperHappy: A slice-of-life pornographic webcomic with occasional demons. Needless to say, :nws:.

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Gag-a-day Comics:

Comics with little to no running narrative, and sometimes without a constant cast. These comics will generally be humorous, but might also be surreal or thought-provoking. It's hard to predict what you'll like, so it's worth giving them all a spin, since the investment you have to make to try a continuity-free comic is quite low.

A Lesson is Learned but the Damage is Irreversible: Weird comics, amazing layouts, updates very infrequently.
Awkward Zombie: Short-form gag comic, mostly about the absurdity of video games.
Dinosaur Comics: Same graphics, different words, often gold! Totally has dinosaurs.
Hark, a Vagrant!: A very popular and well-regarded webcomic about any number of topics, but primarily history. And CANADIAN history.
Perry Bible Fellowship: Adorable art concealing a wellspring of humor as black as pitch. Buy the book!
Penny Arcade: The archetypical "two guys on a couch discuss video games" comic. Sometimes delves into other worlds the creators want to play with, but always returns to that format. Frequently criticized for, well, a variety of reasons that won't even fit into this space, but generally held to include everything that comes out of Gabe's mouth. Notable for being one of the most profitable webcomics in the world; their media empire currently includes the web comic, books, card games, video games, print comics, a multi-million-dollar charity, and three yearly video game conferences.
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal: Nerdy comics which are still somehow funny and not merely pandering to the dorkiest common denominator.
Space Avalanche: Surreal, multi-panel gag comic which touches on various aspects of pop culture.
Subnormality: There are some recurring characters but usually it's made of standalones. Also they're less often funny and instead interesting. Text density puts a lot of readers off.
XKCD: Stick figures and nerdery. Often criticized for being opaque if you have fewer than two PhDs.

Humor:

Webcomics with a story, but one that focuses entirely or almost entirely on humor.

Brawl in the Family: Video game comic based on the characters from Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Much better than it sounds.
Bad Machinery: The tweeist and most British of all humorous story comics.
Gone with the Blastwave: Beautifully rendered but rarely updated, Gone with the Blastwave is about fighting a war about... something. It was probably important before everything went to hell. Needless to say, this is some dark comedy.
Luffinpuff & Eric: The splendiferously cute adventures of a boy and the imaginary friend he's somewhat outgrown.
MS Paint Adventures: Low-fi art combined with liberal use of movies, music, and mini-games. One of the most irregular schedules on the Internet.
The Non-Adventures of Wonderella: A webcomic about Wonder WomanWonderella's adventures. Largely superhero-based comedy.
Order of the Stick: A stick-figure comic based on Dungeons and Dragons. Extremely long and convoluted.
Tiny Kitten Teeth: This painted comic is artistically reminiscent of old Golden Books. If Tigerbuttah doesn't make you smile, you've been replaced by Scrooge McPodperson.
Whomp!: Are you a neckbeard who loves anime? Then this comic is definitely for you! ... If you have some sense of self-awareness.

Fantasy:

Swords, magic, dragons, and castles. May also be urban fantasy, which is similar except the castles are skyscrapers and... actually, the swords, magic, and dragons tend to be exactly the same.

BACK: a fantasy western about the end of the world, maybe? Who cares, you should read it because both K.C. Green and Anthony Clark are working on it.
Godsend: Set in an alternate version of the historical Middle East, Godsend is about a prophecy that got royally screwed before it could even truly begin....
HERO: A rarely-updated webcomic with interesting artwork that uses mouseovers for text, freeing up space for daring and beautiful compositions. Has a manga aesthetic, but is by an actual manga artist.
Hemlock: The adventures of a witch, her three-eyed frog familiar, and the giant snail they live in. Also it's set in Finland.
He is a Good Boy: An acorn fails to learn lessons about life.
Hobo Lobo of Hamelin: A perfect example of how the internet can be used to enhance the comic-reading experience, Hobo Lobo is clever and beautifully rendered.
LAMEZONE: I won't bother trying to explain this, you just need to read them.
Nimona: A wonderful, lighthearted fantasy romp with no okay actually it's a lot of murder. The art style is really cute, though, and the comic is by turns dramatic, humorous, and whimsical.
Strong Female Protagonist: A superhero comic with a... well, you can probably guess. Explores the concept of what a superhero really would be in modern society.
The Meek: Political struggles, the fate of the world, the inner workings of the gods, and nudity. Now back from a ridiculously long hiatus!
Unsounded: Great art, cute characters, and a story which almost immediately plunges into unsounded (har har) depths of horror.
Vattu: A story about cultural conflict and the nature of freedom.
Zebra Girl: One of the oldest quality webcomics still updating, Zebra Girl began in 2001 and has been recommendable almost from the get-go. Features some of the best monochromatic artwork among internet comics. Not furry, the "zebra" refers to something else.

Science Fiction

Robots, lasers, and spaceships. We'll include Steampunk in here too, because why not?

Tom Siddell, via Twitter posted:

I made a steampunk cog. It's two cogs.

Ava's Demon: A girl is possessed by a very unfriendly spirit. Created by a Dreamworks employee; very beautiful.
Dresden Codak: A long-form story about a nerdy cyborg girl and the upcoming Singularity. It is generally assumed that the real, actual Singularity will occur before this comic gets around to it. The author is frequently criticized for sexualizing the main character, which he claims he does not do while drawing her in her underwear.
forming: A science fiction/alternate history/mindfuck by a well-respected professional artist who currently works on Adventure Time.
Girl Genius: Melty people trapped in a series of castles. By the Foglios, well-known fantasy artists.
Lady Sabre and the Pirates of the Ineffable Aether: Steampunk adventure, only good!
O Human Star: An SF family drama with gay robots. Has great art and a fairly intriguing mystery.
Power Nap: An outcast working for a faceless corporation learns of a destructive force creeping in on reality from dreams.
Red Moon Rising: Politics, guns, fire, steam-powered stuff, pretty art.
Shadoweyes: The story of a young woman who finds she can transform into a bizarre creature. Takes place in a Battle Angel Alita-esque decrepit futuristic city.
Stand Still, Stay Silent: Ragnarok has come and gone, and the world is different now. An underfunded and underprepared crew of heroes prepare to explore the ruins of the old world to find the true state of things.
String Theory: Following the life of one Dr. Herville Schtein, String Theory is about a physicist's fall from grace. ... Well, no, not quite. Nothing about Herville was ever really... "graceful".

Horror/Paranormal:

Ghosts, goblins, ghoulies, and other spirits of the night. Or maybe the true horror is other people? (Other people with CHAINSAW HANDS.)

Broodhollow: A horror comic by Kris Straub of Checkerboard Nightmare/Starslip/Chainsawsuit fame. As the dedicated thread describes it: "Steamboat Willy in Silent Hill".
Demon: A young man is bitten by a radioactive suicide attempt and discovers that with great power comes great being an enormous rear end in a top hat.
Elsie Hooper: Elsie Hooper is a grungey black and white serial about a small American town invaded by creepy humanoid creatures who have kidnapped the main character's sister.
Helvetica: Dead people in the afterlife, very cute skull dead people!
Monster Pulse: A comic about a girl and her monster. What part of yourself would you give up to create a new life? What can you live without?
Paranatural: A kid moves to a new city and can see ghosts and spirits. He and his friends set things straight. Sounds lame, is actually super cool.
Wilde Life: A man, a ghost, a werewolf, a town, Panama. (It's not actually set in Panama.)

Modern Day/Slice-of-life:

These comics may occur in our world or in something more fantastic, but overall they are mostly about people just like you hanging around doing things just like you do. Or you would, if you lived in colonial America or were a cop.

Double Cross: The brightly-colored adventures of some cops at various levels of corruption. Used to be called Chaos.
Family Man: (Risk of :nws:)The story of a lecturer living in the HRE is 1768 who may or may not become a werewolf. Why do we say this? Because he's also a character from the comedy webcomic Bite Me!, now complete. These comics are unbelievably dissimilar, but share some cast members.
It Hurts: a comic about a sweet stupid little boy in love. Read until at least number 100 before deciding if you like it.
Let's Speak English: A charming little webcomic about teaching English to small Japanese children.
Love Me Nice: It's about toons in show business, somewhat Roger Rabbit style, but with its own unique spin. Fantastic and very appropriate artwork coupled with a fun, intriguing story.
Octopus Pie: A slice-of-life webcomic about Eve and Hanna's lives.
Questionable Content: Slice of life with music nerdery and AIs. Frequently criticized for playing it safe with the art.

Buttlord

Buttlord.

Buttlord: Buttlord

Completed Comics and/or Standalones:

These comics are complete; more updates are not expected. Some are "standalones"; that is, they had a determinate run scripted from the beginning.

The Abbadon: Incompatible people together in a room that will not open, and only one of them gives the slightest drat. Can be :nws: for breasts.
Balloon Adventure Comic: by the amazingly skilled Emily Cicierega, this is one adorable and colorful adventure that you don't want to miss! Can also be purchased in book form.
Buffet of Lies by FunkyAl: A collection of gag strips early, tending towards small, darkly humorous storylines later on. Party cloudy with showers of surreality.
Bobwhite: A delightfully quirky webcomic following three art students studying at Bobwhite. This comic has been completed, and now the same writer/artist is working on Monster Pulse.
Buttlord GT: This comic has been complete for 12 years. People still love it and talk about it. Think about what that means for a DBZ parody.
Digger: The story of a wombat on a strange adventure where she might not belong.... This comic has received rave reviews, and now's the time to give it a shot!
Don't Cry for Me, I'm Already Dead: by Rebecca Sugar (previously a storyboarder on Adventure Time and now the creator of Steven Universe), an amazing comic about two brothers and their love of The Simpsons.
Friends with Boys: A previously-homeschooled girl enters her first year of high school and the tangled social web there. Also, there is a ghost. NOW PRINT ONLY.
His Face All Red: by Emmy Carroll, yet another "EC" with truly fantastic graphic novel skills. Don't miss her story of Anu-Anulan (slightly :nws: possibly) or The Prince and the Sea (minor :nws: for breasts).
Gunshow: Has some recurring characters, such as the Anime Club, but is made of largely unconnected strips. Some pages are not comedic.
I Want You To Feel The Pressure: Sci-fi/spy story with relationship drama. Or maybe it's a relationship story with spy drama. Either way, it's NOT a side project of Dresden Codak's Aaron Diaz. "Season One" is done, which implies there might someday be a Season Two, but it's definitely stopped for now.
Job Dog: Job Dog is an artistic and introspective look at a dog who has a job.
Minus: Wonderfully charming adventures of a young girl!
Order of Tales: a story about storytellers by the same author as
Princess Planet: The wacky hijinks of a psuedo-superhero princess and her family and friends.
Rice Boy: A somewhat surreal, very imaginative fantasy adventure. By the same author as
Shortpacked: Follows the escapades of a bunch of toy store employees who make jokes. The author is well-known for turning previous humorous comics into bizarre dramafests, but that does not seem to have happened here.
smokes: This comic is... odd and incredibly depressing, but despite the unusual art style, absolutely worth a try.
Sin Titulo: If Lost were a comic, pretty much. Very creepy and cool but quite confusing to most.
TJ & Amal : (Risk of :nws: - splash page will tip you off if the most recent update is NSFW. ) The Less than Epic Adventures of TJ & Amal. This comic is about the two titular characters taking a road trip across the United States.
Transient Man: A beautifully-drawn story about a homeless vagrant in San Francisco who believes he is the destined savior of mankind. May not be possible to complete the story without buying the print volume.

Abandoned

These comics stop partway through and are unlikely to be revived, but may be worth looking at anyway.

The Abominable Charles Christopher: The tale of a sasquatch on a journey to save the forest he calls home and the neighbors he loves. [store]
Achewood: a unique brand of surreal humor and wordplay. Holds a special place in the hearts of Goons. May sometimes update, but it's basically an accident if you spot it.
Alpha Flag: A strange man awakens in a world of strange symbols, each of which is a part of him. Difficult to explain, a joy to read.
Camodad: Mostly known for the Bendytoots comic, but is generally pretty funny.
Cheap Thrills: This comic was about a group of (anthropomorphic animal) teenagers who aren't particularly special. Still, their failures and triumphs struck any number of chords.
Curio: Utter cuteness! Also horror.
Dubblebaby: Longer-form, well-drawn gag comics somewhat similar to PBF in character.
The Lair of the Dreaded Atrox: A charming story following some monsters and woodland creatures. This comic is created using clay models, making its appearance distinctive.
Monster Commute: Monsters have to get to work too, you know.
Pictures for Sad Children: The world's primary source of depressive humor. May occasionally appear to have a story, but don't be fooled.

WARNING: If You Say You Like These Popular Webcomics, the Webcomics Thread May Track You Down and Poop on Your Face:

These are kept here as a courtesy to inform readers of the thread's bad opinion of these comics, because all of them are popular enough that someone might recommend them to you. Many of the comics above have justified criticisms, but these comics are regarded by at least 90% of the thread as being unsalvageable. Be warned.

Ctrl+Alt+Del: Had the honor of being terrible and being made by a terrible person.
Goblins: Dough people playing by D&D rules. All characters are bags full of six gallons of blood.
The Least I Could Do: Misogyny and racism!
Drowtales: Elf bullshit plus creepiness

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Literally Kermit posted:

15 years and counting but I still don't understand what a webcomic is, except you can't find them in glass coke bottles or misty forgotten rainy afternoons on the moor.

I have it on good authority that you can find them in the first springtime of your youth, though.

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You got it.

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It might need its own.

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DekeThornton posted:

That list has a distinct lack of Stand Still Stay Silent, which just started a new chapter after a short hiatus. It's good,.

RobinPierce posted:

The Meek should probably be moved out of 'abandoned' in the OP. It's updating weekly again, and should be for the foreseeable future given patreon figures! (I am very happy about this)

dmboogie posted:

The Last Cowboy is a very cool sci-fi story about a human girl raised by aliens, and also about the scientists who are studying said alien species's planet. The art is gorgeous and I'm pretty sure it's goon-made, too.

Grievous errors, now corrected.

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DekeThornton posted:

Oh, and maybe Atomic Robot could be added as well. It is a free online comic these days after all.

Dabir posted:

And It Hurts, with a disclaimer to read to comic 100 before you make a decision on it.

TwoPair posted:

Good OP idonotlikepeas, though you can put Shortpacked in the completed category.

All set.

khy posted:

Maybe we could just consolidate the two lists and have a link to the BSS thread in the webcomic list instead of two separate lists.

Thought about doing that, since that's what I'm doing with the store/patreon list (still working on that) but people already miss that things have separate threads often enough already, so I figured it's better to keep it as a separate section for now.

Captain Bravo posted:

Let's use the Subnormality comic that's also four times as wide as normal and packs text in at either end, so you have to scroll the screen back and forth. That is a good idea that I can't possibly see backfiring.

I'll put that right in the section where I say to timg things, and then follow it with six Scott McCloud comics.

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Tesseraction posted:

Actually, these comics rule and are awesome.

It's cool, man. We're here for you. We'll help you get through this.

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fun hater posted:

My comic got added to Hiveworks! :buddy: I'm really excited.

Hey, congratulations!

neogeo0823 posted:

I should definitely stop reading it at work, that's for drat sure.

I think this whole scene is kinda just there to poo poocumfart in the face of anyone who, like me, got bored of the comic but kept reading on for whatever reason. Once again, I feel like I want this to just skip to the end so I can see who dies and move on.

At least it's the most "fun" Jimmie's had in like 200 years?

I'm sure that someone will mention in this thread when it's over, if you actually want to do that.

nimby posted:

Worst thing is his announcement that it'll get released in print. It's a horrible wreck that I just can't look away from, even if it is just setups for more filth.

I actually saw a print volume of it in a comic store a few days ago, so I'm a bit confused. Maybe it was someone selling one of those handmade booklets he was talking about.

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I'm pretty sure Ys-Voya is already at least partially composed of boobies.

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Closing in on an extra update already. May you reach concordance.

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KSBD is now $116.50 from full-time updates. Shall we start a pool on how long it'll be before it hits that? I'm betting it'll get a boost after the next update.

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I wonder who gets to decide exactly what kind of skill is used. Alison could, in theory, turn this around on that basis.

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MikeJF posted:

I'd have thought the introduction of dozens more Demons into the story would have more fanfare. I hope they ran extra loyalty tests on those commandos.

Doesn't matter, because they're all going to be dead within thirty pages.

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Now is the time... for games.

Oh, Alison. :allears:

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I don't see any reason why someone shouldn't talk about their own comic in here as long as they aren't being a weirdo about it or breaking the forum rules. (Tip, though, pretending it's someone else's comic is weird.)

The comic itself reminds me a bit of this print one:



Bit of a different focus, of course.

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Plethora posted:

Sure thing. I'll only post links now.

Sorry about that.

I think there's nothing wrong with posting images, personally (although we probably don't need to see every last one). You can always timg them to be considerate to those with a more delicate disposition.

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Kojiro posted:

It's extremely tempting to base a later story around it, to be honest. I had a lot of fun with the flashback characters, and writing a Disaster Wedding would be fun as hell.

I beg of you, do not resist this temptation.

Plethora posted:

Why? Should we post links only?
I'll start posting links from now on then.

I don't know if you read a lot of threads on SA, but in general one person replying to you doesn't represent the opinion of the thread. If you want to stop posting them, you can stop posting them, of course, but if you want to keep posting them, most people who have expressed an opinion are still on your side.

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I had kind of guessed at the religious angle in Daughter of the Lilies before it was explicitly revealed, but I don't blame people for being blindsided by it. If you haven't read a lot of Christian literature, it's going to seem to come out of nowhere.

I don't think the characters' attitudes being referred to here are about persecution of Christians, per se. I think it's more about fear of the new and different. That said, I'll be happy to eliminate it from my bookmarks if it goes too far that way. I am worried by the author's direct reference of Narnia. The earlier Narnia books were my favorites growing up, but as the series went on, the stories themselves started to become subservient to proselytization; I'm happy to read a story that wants to tell me to think something, but it needs to be a story first and a polemic second, and the later Narnia books drifted into the wrong end of that spectrum. Particularly when Lewis takes it upon himself to jab at people or places he doesn't like, which, again, happens more and more as the series goes on - witness him making GBS threads on the entire concept of scientific progress in the second-to-last book, The Magician's Nephew. (It's sort of like including H.G. Wells as an unwitting agent of Satan in That Hideous Strength; a self-indulgent, somewhat mean-spirited way of giving the middle finger to whatever you don't like in your narrative. If you want to do this, for God's sake be subtle.)

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FlyinPingu posted:

does kind of explain the author's childish censoring of the middle finger and swearing though, while having no problem with showing blood and gore. :v:

I found that a bit a precious too. If you've just shown someone getting bisected by a sword, the word "poo poo" should not send you into conniptions.

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Zweihander01 posted:

After binging Daughter of the Lilies I don't really mind if it's got some Christian influences. The bizarre alien angel/vision/aura/whatever is what gives me a good feeling; the people who remember how terrifyingly psychedelic and hosed up angels are supposed to be tend to be pretty knowledgeable and level-headed, as opposed to the White Jesus types. And I gave Kill Six Billion Demons a pass for being pretty heavily inspired by Buddhism and all.

And the main character isn't some Bibleman standin for Jesus, either. She's insecure and anxious and has no idea what she is or how her talents really work. If she's supposed to be Jesus then it's a hell of a fresh take on him instead of being another Aslan or Gandalf leader-type.

I still think she literally has No Face, though.

One possibility is that she is, herself, an angel. A lily is symbolic of innocence - that's why they're common at funerals, as the soul of the departed is said to regain its innocence in death. People react to her appearance with confusion and fear, but that doesn't need to be a result of ugliness; there are plenty of ways of being unnatural and terrifying people.

Another is the she's one of their universe's equivalent of the Lilim, which would be an interesting play on words. (The children of Lilith, Adam's first wife, are something like demons.)

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Plethora posted:

Nooooooooooo: http://bunnymeat.webcomic.ws/comics/26

Honestly though this one isn't so bad.

This one is actually the worst so far.

The typo in the last panel almost killed it for me, though.

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Plethora posted:

Oops, fixed.

Oh, thanks. I thought you were preserving something from the original story you got.

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That said, there is a whole thread already for Homestuckin'.

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RandomPauI posted:

[a good post]

Good heavens, I learned something today and it was even funny.

I don't think I've ever seen a comic or show or book do that right, really. Although sometimes I guess you get people sitting on the back end of an ambulance with blankets on them.

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TwoPair posted:

"making content people enjoy" is definitely not indicative of one's writing talent, or this thread wouldn't have a bimonthly 2 minutes hate for Aaron Diaz.

Diaz's main problem is that he keeps forgetting the "making content" part of that.


What comics like Dumbing (and Sluggy, et al.) tend to offer is reliability. You know when you're going to get them, how much you're going to get, and about what the content will be. That's why Willis freaked out and went a little overboard with the content warning, because he knows this and realizes that by going outside of his ambit, even if only briefly, he's compromising on the thing that keeps people reading his comic. (Of course, he always does this, he can't help himself.)

Lest I sound dismissive here, reliability is actually a good thing in entertainment and something that people genuinely crave. The best works combine that reliability with imagination to allow them to also surprise the reader (stuff like Gunnerkrigg, Poppy, and Unsounded, for instance), but there are only so many of those and if you want to read more than those comics you're ultimately going end up with some things that are either less imaginative or less reliable. (Or both, but I think you have enough that are only broken in one way that you don't need to go that far down the hole unless you do nothing but read comics all day or unless it's tickling some other personal quirk you have.) Some people have a preference for one over the other and because people are people, this results in a lot of stupid slapfights which we all participate in with great glee.

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It definitely does feel like it's on the way out, at least. We can have some hope that our children will live in a post-Bun-Bun world.

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She has another book coming out, theoretically in October.

https://www.amazon.com/Solutions-Other-Problems-Allie-Brosh/dp/1501103288

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This is a thread about webcomics. It's unlikely that we'd just start talking about social problems generally. But when one involves a webcomic, it wouldn't be surprising for it to come up? Gamergate is a movement about beating up on women for daring to exist in public and endlessly hounding and harassing them, whereas this seems to be people being annoyed at an artist's casual racism, so I don't see much of a correlation? I guess I'm not real clear on what you're arguing here.

I mean, I got as annoyed as anyone else when the thread descends into pages of poo poo and nonsense (probably more annoyed than a lot of people), but "it's like Gamergate" is kind of a weird direction to take this.

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Cat Mattress posted:

Now, let's go back to the 2016 announcement, what is the very first item?

I'm still trying to decide if it would be more hilarious if one of these were true this time, or none of them. I'd personally guess that the three Mary theories are true, although I guess we'll find out eventually.

EDIT:

Potential evidence:

http://www.poppy-opossum.com/comic/poppy-3-page-9-2/ - Mary has Mystana's genes, but Poppy says that the Mothers of Magic don't have any descendants.
http://www.poppy-opossum.com/comic/poppy-3-page-25/ - Silvana is still alive (and probably in charge of the Veil, whatever the Veil is), so Mystana might be too.

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I think all the information we have on that is:

Bobby posted:

Short-tailed opossums/Gamba only have very tiny natural reservoirs of magic, but in a world where possessing magic basically means “legally considered a person,” the difference between “some” and “less than none” is pretty big.

(http://www.poppy-opossum.com/comic/poppy-3-page-3/)

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Morbi posted:

Being explicitly told "magic cannot do this" and then having a character find a clever, logically sound loophole around it to solve a problem is extremely satisfying.

This is a good reason.

In general, though, one also wants to establish at least a few ground rules as a way of playing fair with the audience. Otherwise, it drains all the tension out of the story. Magic can just happen and fix anything, ever; why worry about what might happen when magic will just fix it all? It's even worse when there's magic on both sides and any contests between them become a series of magical rear end-pulls of steadily increasing egregiousness. It's like watching six-year-olds play make-believe fights where they spend a lot of time going "nuh-uh, you missed", only it's one person pretending to be two six-year-olds. (Admittedly, stories are always a bit like that, but you're at least supposed to TRY to conceal it.)

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Tunicate posted:

Yes we get it, you read bleach

Well, it's why I don't, but yes, precisely.

It's not even a specific thing to magic, just storytelling. For a non-magic example, take the Prime Directive in Star Trek. The Prime Directive may tell you something about how Starfleet operates, but its real purpose in any given story is to give the characters an obstacle to struggle against, with the conflict driving the plot. In any good episode involving it, the only purpose of introducing the Prime Directive is to prevent the characters from instantly winning the day. Instead, we get to be impressed by their cleverness when they finally figure out how to do the right thing despite it. (Or fail to, if it's supposed to be depressing.) But, of course, the entire thing can be summarized as one sentence: "Don't interfere with any low-tech alien cultures." There's not a twenty-minute break in the episode it's first introduced in to explain the entire legal system of the Federation, which is the mistake you see a lot of people making when they have no editorial oversight. Background is usually best kept as background, with details leaked out as needed to prep the story for future events.

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I still have hope that the ship can be righted, but we'll see. I feel like, especially in the first few story arcs, the comic was trying to come at it from a different angle than some of the grittier 90s versions of that story did; it's not a horrifying grimdark totalitarian world, it's basically this world with superheroes. Hell, one of the earlier plots revolves around the fact that the heroes basically already won; it turns out most people didn't want to be villains. They were vastly outnumbered and are now mostly in prisons or dead. So the question being asked is more like "what do you do with superpowers now that the comic-book battles are pretty much over".

I'd also double my usual recommendation against hate-reading comics here. This one isn't likely to produce the kind of excesses of brazen stupidity that can occasionally make that activity fun, it's just in a slump where a series of things it has attempted have missed their mark and produced an incoherent result. If you're not enjoying it, just abandon the silly thing; someone will doubtless post in its thread, or this one, if it actually gets back to a good place again.

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Nuebot posted:

The comic came to the conclusion that kidnapping and torturing a, relatively, innocent person was a-okay because a vigilante suspected him of rape. Also that being a serial murderer is completely fine and morally correct if the people you murder are bad and the protagonist was in the wrong for trying to stop the killer. It is a trainwreck.

It didn't actually come to that conclusion, or even anything close to it. If you want to get into it at that level, though, we might want to move it to the dedicated thread.

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Poison Mushroom posted:

It's like having cereal for breakfast. Not particularly exciting or important, but once you're in the habit, there's not really a reason to stop?

This is basically how I feel about QC, and a few other comics that remain in my feed for no special reason. It's kind of fun, isn't going to annoy me unreasonably, and doesn't consume much time. Overall it is a reasonable entertainment transaction, like when we used to watch an okay television show that came on between two other shows we wanted to watch, back when shows being on at specific times was a thing. Someday some really amazing comic might push it out of the list, but until then it isn't hurting anything in there, and it makes me smile, so what the hell.

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Poppy has returned. Rejoice, kill the fatted calf, sing jubilation, and so forth.

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LSE was great, but presumably Cagle only has so many amusing stories about Japan. Hopefully she'll have a long career full of similarly amazing comics for us to enjoy.

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Oh Joy Sex Toy is fundamentally an instructional comic for a variety of underserved communities who really want to find out about fetishes, sex toys, etc. I'm sure it's not IMPOSSIBLE to get off on it, in the same sense that someone could probably get off on an anatomy book or something, but if you can read OJST, you already have access to the Internet, where a rich cornucopia of pornographic options await you. It's difficult to imagine why you'd bother.

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MikeJF posted:

Oh derp, rereading a bit and I only just got what was going on with Kit's dad's chair.

The heat has to keep beating, too, since that's what generates the anti-magic field.

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