GoonTier 2015: NFL Fantasy Promotion/Relegation Keeper League (Season 3)

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Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

All hail two-time defending champion of Tier A: darkspider42.

League Links
Tier A: The Tier Jerkers
Tier B: The Trail of Tiers

Traded Picks

quote:

Suave Fedora
4th & 6th rounders lost to old dog child (relegated)

IRC info
Diqnol and old dog child setup an IRC channel for discussion and general jackassery:

synirc
#goontier

2016 Waiting List

quote:

Michael Corleone
Professor Moriarty
Lock

Zypher fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Dec 15, 2015

# ? Aug 6, 2015 21:04

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# ? May 5, 2024 21:22

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Rules

What is Promotion / Relegation?

Wikipedia posted:

In sports leagues, promotion and relegation is a process where teams are transferred between two divisions based on their performance for the completed season. The best-ranked teams in the lower division are promoted to the division above, and the worst-ranked teams in the higher division are relegated to the division below.

Tier A (the Tier Jerkers) is a keeper league. Tier B (the Trail of Tiers) is a redraft league. Sucks to be in Tier B.

Buyin: $20
Website: ESPN
Tiers: 2
# of teams per tier: 12
# of teams promoted each year: 3 winners of a 6 team playoff
# of teams relegated each year: 3 losers of a 4 team playoff
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
Roster: QB 2 RB 2 WR TE FLEX K 1 DL 2 LB 2 DB DFLEX 7 BN IR
Scoring: 0.5 PPR, otherwise ESPN Standard

IDP Scoring

quote:

Tackle Solo: 1
Tackle Assist: .5
Sack: 3
Interception: 4
Fumble Force: 3
Fumble Recovery: 3
Defensive Touchdown: 6
Safety: 6
Pass Defended: 1
Block Kick : 6
Tackles for Loss: 2

Payout
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout

quote:

1st place: $115
2nd place: $40
3rd place: $20
Highest points total each week of regular season: $5 (x13)

Keeper System

quote:

A) Every keeper has a one round penalty.
B) Penalties that can't be enforced will transfer to the next highest keeper.
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
D) All penalties must be enforced.
E) The following season, keeper value is based off the highest of the following: 1) The round drafted in the previous season or 2) their draft value last season prior to any transferred penalties.
F) Once a player hits free agency in any form, that player is no longer eligible to be kept the following season.

Example:

code:

2012 Draft:
1.) Drew Brees
2.) DeMarco Murray
4.) Percy Harvin
16.) Alfred Morris

2013:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
 	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (2nd rounder) 
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
3.) Harvin (4th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
13.) Morris (16th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Brees
	-1 for keeping DeMarco

2014:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (3rd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
8.) Morris (13th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
 	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)

2015: 
Can�t legally apply penalties to keep only Brees, DeMarco, Harvin, and Morris. 
One way to fix this is to let go one or more of the players. 
Another possibility is to keep 2014 20th round pick Johnny Manziel to absorb additional penalties.

2015:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (2nd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
4.) Morris (8th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
17.) Manziel (20th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Manziel
	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	-1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd rounder (Harvin)

Supplemental Draft
Every year at least three teams in Tier A will be disbanded. The players comprising their rosters will be put into one large player pool. Teams from Tier B will be promoted to take their place, and they will be able to select keepers from the player pool in a supplemental draft.

Any players selected in the supplemental draft will retain the same value they would have if they were kept by their previous owner. For example, if a relegated team drafted Andrew Luck in the 14th round, drafting Andrew Luck in the supplemental draft would let the new owner keep him in the 13th round (barring any other penalties).

Owners will have an unlimited number of picks in the supplemental draft, but their keepers must abide by the same keepers rules as the rest of the league. Once every owner opts out of the draft, and the commissioner determines that their keepers adhere to the league's keeper rules, the supplemental draft is over.

The supplemental draft will be in order of their finish in Tier B. The draft will snake.

Draft Order
The first year the draft order will be randomized. After that, the two tiers will follow the following draft order:

Tier A
1: 1st place Tier B
2: 2nd place Tier B
3: 3rd place Tier B
4: 9th place Tier A
5: 8th place Tier A
etc, etc

Tier B
1: 10th place Tier A
2: 11th place Tier A
3: 12th place Tier A
4: 12th place Tier B
5: 11th place Tier B
etc, etc

The draft will snake. Every attempt will be made to accommodate a live draft.

Trades
Trades will now process instantly. I'll obviously reserve the right to veto extreme attempts at collusion / cheating. We've got a good group of people here, so I doubt it'll ever come to that.

Trade deadline is the last week of the season.

Trade Draft Picks At Your Own Risk
Future draft picks can be traded in Tier A. However, keep in mind that the draft picks of a relegated team are valueless.

Furthermore, if you trade your own future draft pick to a team, your rights to that draft pick are forfeited (even if that team is then later relegated).

Ties
During the regular season, matchups can result in a tie. It's not very likely because we're using fractional points, but I've seen it happen before.

Overall record determines playoff seeding. Ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

During the playoffs, ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

Relegation Cannot Be Avoided
If someone in Tier A decides not to continue on next season for whatever reason, their roster will join the player pool for the supplemental draft and an additional team from Tier B will be promoted to take their place.

# ? Aug 6, 2015 21:04

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

Your league links go to the 2014 pages

# ? Aug 6, 2015 21:34

Boywunda: Jun 25, 2003

When I see that scoreboard, it just reminds me of how much I suck at managing a team fit for the playoffs. My playoff records in all my leagues is very underwhelming. I hope to redeem myself this year (in all leagues, not just this one).

# ? Aug 6, 2015 21:54

Amergin: Jan 29, 2013; THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES

I'll join in, just tell me how to throw money your way.

# ? Aug 6, 2015 22:03

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Azhais posted:

Your league links go to the 2014 pages

Thanks. Fixed.

Amergin posted:

I'll join in, just tell me how to throw money your way.

Sweet. Welcome! You can Paypal me at zypher at gmail.com

And I'll use your Paypal e-mail to send you the ESPN invite link. Unless you want it sent somewhere else. Then PM me or whatever. Kazak_Hstan -- this applies to you as well.

# ? Aug 6, 2015 22:42

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; Can't post for 12 hours!

Boywunda posted:

When I see that scoreboard, it just reminds me of how much I suck at managing a team fit for the playoffs. My playoff records in all my leagues is very underwhelming. I hope to redeem myself this year (in all leagues, not just this one).

When I see mine, I just laugh and laugh (at all of you)

e: scrounged :20bux:

, sent

e2: I'm stupid and did not put my forums name in the note. I'm Randall

3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Aug 6, 2015

# ? Aug 6, 2015 23:39

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

Drafting sixth. Career record is 13-13. I am the middle ground.

also do you want us to repost our keepers?

Parmesan Basil fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Aug 6, 2015

# ? Aug 6, 2015 23:44

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Redid the scoreboard to better reflect darkspider42's dominance of our league.

Parmesan Basil posted:

also do you want us to repost our keepers?

No need if you're just gonna keep it as is. I won't lock it in until that Sunday just in case.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 00:11

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

I'M DOODLING NOW :siren:

e: doodl'd and paid

Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Aug 7, 2015

# ? Aug 7, 2015 00:42

Chen Kenichi: Jul 20, 2001

Keeping Forte and the DeAndre Bros.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 02:44

von Metternich: May 7, 2007; Why the hell not?

Zypher, the invite sent me to a page that said "Invite does not exist in LeagueMember"...did someone join twice, or am I taking over someone else's team?

# ? Aug 7, 2015 06:14

zeroordie: Aug 27, 2004

When I joined it gave me Vons team. I also got two emails. Maybe I did something wrong? I changed my team name to try and make it clear who I am. Sorry if I messed something up!

# ? Aug 7, 2015 06:23

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

I probably hosed it up somehow. Lemme fix

# ? Aug 7, 2015 06:26

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Try again now, von M?

e: also you're taking over my old team, so you'll be the 2nd owner. Not gonna mess with your team; just so I can keep tabs on the league.

Zypher fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Aug 7, 2015

# ? Aug 7, 2015 06:30

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; Can't post for 12 hours!

Zypher posted:

Try again now, von M?

e: also you're taking over my old team, so you'll be the 2nd owner. Not gonna mess with your team; just so I can keep tabs on the league.

You're a real trooper. A lesser commish would've rigged things to stay in Tier A. :911:

# ? Aug 7, 2015 07:11

von Metternich: May 7, 2007; Why the hell not?

old dog child posted:

You're a real trooper. A lesser commish would've rigged things to stay in Tier A.

Agreed! Unless I lose, then clearly you are destroying my team behind the scenes. Just on principle though. In any case, I am in and ready to party.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 09:32

Suave Fedora: Jun 10, 2004

Can you please obscure the name from pick 1.1 of last season's Tier Jerker Clickydraft, i want to preserve my legacy pls thanks.

Until further notice, the returning Fedoras are:

3 Le'Veon Bell
8 Brandin Cooks
12 Paul Worrilow
14 Martellus Bennett
19 Travis Kelce

traded picks:

+ 9th round pick (from old dog child)
- 21st round pick (to old dog child)

Suave Fedora fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Aug 7, 2015

# ? Aug 7, 2015 14:14

Amergin: Jan 29, 2013; THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES

Zypher posted:

Sweet. Welcome! You can Paypal me at zypher at gmail.com

And I'll use your Paypal e-mail to send you the ESPN invite link. Unless you want it sent somewhere else. Then PM me or whatever. Kazak_Hstan -- this applies to you as well.

You should get the money shortly, let me know if you don't/anything went awry.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 16:03

ffoecaf: Sep 17, 2005; Get Off My Lawn

Paid

# ? Aug 7, 2015 16:06

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Amergin posted:

You should get the money shortly, let me know if you don't/anything went awry.

ESPN invite sent. Also, please fill out this little doodle device: http://doodle.com/bs6hxnrwsdk9ic3m

# ? Aug 7, 2015 16:34

Amergin: Jan 29, 2013; THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES

Zypher posted:

ESPN invite sent. Also, please fill out this little doodle device: http://doodle.com/bs6hxnrwsdk9ic3m

Doodled and joined.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 16:46

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Reached out to Deer_fire via e-mail. Hope he's still down to fight it out in Tier B this year with us.

If we can get him on board, I'd like to set the Tier B draft for the evening of Sunday, September 6th.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 18:34

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Have you sent out invites for B yet? Because I haven't received one.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 18:54

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

Sent my

in. Let me know when you get it.

# ? Aug 7, 2015 18:54

Master Stur: Jun 13, 2008; chasin' tail

I am ready for another year of being mediocre

# ? Aug 7, 2015 19:04

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

HiroProtagonist posted:

Sent my in. Let me know when you get it.

Got it

Dandy Kaiser posted:

Have you sent out invites for B yet? Because I haven't received one.

Sorry -- what do you mean? For the ESPN league? You shouldn't need a new invite. http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/leagueoffice?leagueId=259386&seasonId=2015

# ? Aug 7, 2015 19:22

Teemu Pokemon: Jun 19, 2004; To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Oh wow I didn't know that I was already in it :3:

# ? Aug 7, 2015 19:55

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; Can't post for 12 hours!

As of right now, my keepers will be:

7 Greg Olsen -> 6
9 Jeremy Hill -> 8
15 Ahmad Bradshaw -> 14

I'll PM you if it changes.

quote:

old dog child
3 Roddy White
3 Rashad Jennings
5 Luke Kuechly
5 Giovanni Bernard
5 Percy Harvin
6 Jeremy Maclin
7 Greg Olsen
9 Jeremy Hill
15 Ahmad Bradshaw

- 4th round pick (to darkspider42)
- 9th round pick (to Suave Fedora)
+ 21st round pick (from Suave Fedora)

3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Aug 9, 2015

# ? Aug 9, 2015 01:02

Mikey Purp: Sep 30, 2008; I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

I'll be keeping:

1 Julio Jones -> 1
2 Demarco Murray -> 2
7 TY Hilton -> 4

# ? Aug 9, 2015 03:36

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Deer_fire is dropping out so we need one more tier b replacement if anyone is lurking. I'll throw a post out to the main fantasy thread tomorrow

# ? Aug 9, 2015 04:40

zeroordie: Aug 27, 2004

So we're starting the supplemental draft tomorrow? Do we just post picks here?

# ? Aug 9, 2015 18:47

Anubis: Oct 9, 2003; It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.; Fun Shoe

Reserving the right to change my mind one more time. Seriously, to keep or not to keep Peyton is killing me here because he's obviously not worth a #1 pick but with all my other keepers it's more drafting him in the 8th and trading a 10th for a 16th? Uck, agonizing.

Anubis's Current Stupid Long Keeper list
1 - ALL DAY Peterson (-1 for first rounder)
2 - Peyton Manning (-2, 1 for first rounder penalty and 1 for drafting a 1st rounder in the 2nd)
3 - Demaryius Thomas (-3, 1 for first rounder penalty, 2 for drafting 1st rounder in the 3rd)
4 - Eddie Lacy (-2, drafting a 2nd rounder in the 4th)
5 - JJ Watt (-2, drafting a 3rd rounder in the 5th)
6 - Julian Edelman (+1 draft 7th rounder in the 6th)
7 - Bobby Wagner (+1 draft 8th rounder in the 7th)
8 - Zach Ertz (+1 draft 9th rounder in the 8th)
10 - Johnny loving Football (+7 draft 17th rounder in the 10th)

I know I shouldn't worry so much because I effectively have 3/4 first round value picks (depending on where you're sheet puts Watt this season) but someone should really chime in and reassure me that I'm not being a complete idiot keeping old man Peyton.

# ? Aug 9, 2015 20:11

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

zeroordie posted:

So we're starting the supplemental draft tomorrow? Do we just post picks here?

Yeah. It'll be chill unless it really starts to drag.

You'll go first, post who you want, and then we keep going in a snaking order until the three of you are done choosing your keepers.

# ? Aug 9, 2015 21:21

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

Looking forward to Anubis not drafting at all

# ? Aug 9, 2015 21:31

Anubis: Oct 9, 2003; It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.; Fun Shoe

Parmesan Basil posted:

Looking forward to Anubis not drafting at all

I just show up to the draft so I won't get fined.

# ? Aug 10, 2015 01:56

Suave Fedora: Jun 10, 2004

Suave Fedora posted:

updated keeper list

2 Randall Cobb
3 Le'Veon Bell
8 Brandin Cooks
12 Paul Worrilow
14 Martellus Bennett
19 Travis Kelce

traded picks:

+ 9th round pick (from old dog child)
- 21st round pick (to old dog child)

# ? Aug 10, 2015 13:21

zeroordie: Aug 27, 2004

Ok, let's get this started.

I'll take:

Antonio Brown - 3rd.

# ? Aug 10, 2015 15:33

bobby2times: Jan 9, 2010

Russel Wilson -9th

# ? Aug 10, 2015 16:13

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# ? May 5, 2024 21:22

Zypher: Sep 3, 2009; Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!

Supplemental draft is already underway. von M is on the clock with two picks back to back

Supplemental Draft Player Pool
Round listed is the cost this year to keep the player

quote:

1st: LeSean McCoy, Arian Foster, Reggie Bush, Alfred Morris, AJ Green
2nd: Keenan Allen, Victor Cruz
3rd: Matthew Stafford, Joique Bell
4th: Michael Floyd
5th: Marques Colston, Lamar Miller
6th: Reggie Wayne, Kendall Wright, Tom Brady
7th: Jason Witten
8th: Mike Evans
9th: Vontaze Burfict
10th: Terrance Williams, Kelvin Benjamin
11th: Wesley Woodyard, Harrison Smith
12th: Carlos Hyde
14th: CJ Mosley
15th: Josh Gordon, Jason Pierre-Paul
17th: Philip Rivers
18th: Bernard Pollard
20th: Dwayne Allen

Supplemental Keepers

quote:

zeroordie
3 Antonio Brown

bobby2times
9 Russell Wilson

von Metternich

# ? Aug 10, 2015 17:01

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