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Feather
Mar 1, 2003
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

MrBims posted:

Lol, Ben Carson wants to use drones to kill illegal immigrants on American soil.

Well, that earns my vote. :freep:

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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Either way, Carson is calling for drone strikes. The question is: is he calling for drone strikes on another sovereign nation or for drone strikes on American soil?

I mean, that's another reason why his 'drone strike on caves' line is retarded.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Doctor Butts posted:


The loving idiot throws a fit because...

I have yet to see him reach anything above a calm collected manner. Perhaps if this is how you are viewing things, you may want to seek mental help.



Tell us where the drone touched you on the doll.



DRONES! Don't you SEEEEE!?!?!?! DRONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Holy poo poo dude, calm the gently caress down.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


He should have done like just borrowed generously from Netanyahu speeches about TERROR TUNNELS. I don't think Huckabee's used that one yet.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Reaching back a little bit further, let's follow the story about Ben Carson and fetal tissue research and how he makes a dumb defense about something, then turns around and flat out lies about something while accusing the media of being dishonest.

@ Aug 12th, it was reported that Ben Carson did research on fetal tissue:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-aborted-fetal-tissue_55cc920ce4b0898c48869108

quote:

Famed neurosurgeon Ben Carson says that most medical research can be conducted without using fetal tissue, which has been in the news recently after a series of secretly taped but edited videos showed Planned Parenthood officials discussing how to legally provide aborted tissue to researchers. He has called the benefits of such research "over promised," and has said the videos have made him wonder "how far we have drifted in terms of our humanity."

@ Aug 13th, he admitted as such and made a dumb argument defending it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/13/ben-carsons-tortured-defense-of-his-research-with-fetal-tissue/

quote:

"You have to look at the intent," Carson told The Washington Post's Dave Weigel before he began a campaign swing through New Hampshire. "To willfully ignore evidence that you have for some ideological reason is wrong. If you’re killing babies and taking the tissue, that’s a very different thing than taking a dead specimen and keeping a record of it."

Ok, so we all assume the case is closed at this point, since he's admitted it.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

later on that day, he says it never happened!
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-carson-distances-himself-fetal-tissue-research

quote:

“Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true,” Carson said in a Facebook post late Thursday. “… I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.”

So, either he admitted to it before he knew the facts, or he's just straight up lying.

Which could be the case?

https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/ben-carson-did-research-on-17-week-fetal-tissue/

quote:

Dr. Carson neglected to mention his own paper Colloid Cysts of the Third Ventricle: Immunohistochemical evidence for nonneuropithelial differentiation published in Hum Pathol 23:811-816 in 1992. The materials and methods describe using “human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation.”

Huh. Welp, I guess we know the answer.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Doctor Butts posted:

Reaching back a little bit further, let's follow the story about Ben Carson and fetal tissue research and how he makes a dumb defense about something, then turns around and flat out lies about something while accusing the media of being dishonest.

@ Aug 12th, it was reported that Ben Carson did research on fetal tissue:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-aborted-fetal-tissue_55cc920ce4b0898c48869108


@ Aug 13th, he admitted as such and made a dumb argument defending it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/13/ben-carsons-tortured-defense-of-his-research-with-fetal-tissue/


Ok, so we all assume the case is closed at this point, since he's admitted it.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

later on that day, he says it never happened!
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-carson-distances-himself-fetal-tissue-research


So, either he admitted to it before he knew the facts, or he's just straight up lying.

Which could be the case?

https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/ben-carson-did-research-on-17-week-fetal-tissue/


Huh. Welp, I guess we know the answer.

This is all p boring, but now the black man is #2 behind trump. Do I need to ask my dad for birth certificate yet?

Something Else
Dec 27, 2004

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Tea Partiers could not be more thrilled to 'prove' they are not racist by supporting a 'good' black candidate

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

the problem is hes not very articulate

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Ben Carson is not only a creationist but he believes Evolution is a trick from the devil.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-big-bang-a-fairy-tale-theory-of-evolution-encoura#.umJwV8xYQ

quote:

I personally believe that this theory that Darwin came up with was something that was encouraged by the adversary, and it has become what is scientifically, politically correct

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Doctor Butts posted:

Ben Carson is not only a creationist but he believes Evolution is a trick from the devil.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-big-bang-a-fairy-tale-theory-of-evolution-encoura#.umJwV8xYQ

Flash forward six hours from now, Carson says he was misquoted, that he does believe in evolution and that Darwin was doing the lord's work, but that god created the earth only 6000 years ago.

mightygerm
Jun 29, 2002



my only wish is that he quotes pokemon on his eventual exit from the race

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
I've learned this black man doesn't like brown Muslims at all.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level
Also, the confederate flag is A-OK in his book!

http://www.si.com/racing/2015/09/29/republican-presidential-candidate-ben-carson-nascar-confederate-flag

quote:

“Swastikas are a symbol of hate for some people, too. And yet they still exist in museums and places like that,” Carson told the Associated Press. “If it’s a majority of people in that area who want it to fly, I certainly wouldn't take it down.”

Petty, who retired from racing in 1992, informally endorsed Carson and called him “very humane.”

Richard Petty was so impressed, that he considered this black man to be very much like a real human!

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Wait, Obama is a nazi? Or am i living in Germany 2.0

Ben Carson: 'Hitler' could happen here
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/30/politics/ben-carson-nazi-germany-hitler/index.html

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
:stare:

fun tunnel
Feb 16, 2007

that boys so lovely
he is an inoffensive black man that parrots tea party opinions. hes been on fox news weekly for the past few years.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Darth123123 posted:

Wait, Obama is a nazi? Or am i living in Germany 2.0

Ben Carson: 'Hitler' could happen here
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/30/politics/ben-carson-nazi-germany-hitler/index.html

quote:

At a press conference after the speech, reporters asked Carson who he thinks is like Adolf Hitler in the U.S.

"I'm not going to go into that that. I think that example is pretty clear," he responded, without elaborating.

Lol.

Chafey
Jun 14, 2005

Teflon Don posted:

Bill Cosby

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Carson eyes guns in kindergarten, boasts of his imagined bravery

quote:

For example, Carson said yesterday that if he had a child in kindergarten, he’d feel better knowing there were loaded firearms in the classroom. “If the teacher was trained in the use of that weapon and had access to it, I would be much more comfortable if they had one than if they didn’t,” the GOP candidate said.

quote:

Last night on Facebook, Carson added, “As a Doctor, I spent many a night pulling bullets out of bodies. There is no doubt that this senseless violence is breathtaking – but I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away. Serious people seek serious solutions.”

quote:

Asked what he would have done had a gunman walked up to him and asked him to state his religion, Carson said he would have been more aggressive.

“Not only would I probably not cooperate with him, I would not just stand there and let him shoot me, I would say, ‘Hey guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can’t get us all,’” he told the hosts.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/carson-eyes-guns-kindergarten-boasts-his-imagined-bravery

Ben Carson would handle this crisis by skipping it and going to the next one

quote:

On Tuesday, in seeking to demonstrate how he would handle a similar crisis, Mr. Carson also indicated that he would not try to be a comforter in chief. He suggested that Mr. Obama was wrong for planning a trip to Oregon later this week to console the families of victims, since some members of the community did not welcome him. “When do we get to the point where we have people who actually want to solve our problems, rather than just politicize everything?” Mr. Carson said.

He added that he would probably skip such a trip if he were president. “I mean, I would probably have so many things on my agenda that I would go to the next one,” he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/06/ben-carson-says-he-would-have-been-more-aggressive-against-oregon-gunman/

Obama is wrong for not visiting the families of the shooting, until he does.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Doctor Butts posted:

Ben Carson is not only a creationist but he believes Evolution is a trick from the devil.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-big-bang-a-fairy-tale-theory-of-evolution-encoura#.umJwV8xYQ

In addition to being politically correct, it is also scientifically correct. A good comment, noted neurosurgeon and dumbass Dr. Ben Carson :buddy:

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Also, we should not forget the fact that someone DID try rushing the Oregon shooter, was shot 5-7 times, and is lucky to still be alive.

It also did not stop the shooter.

Ben Carson is dumb.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Doctor Butts posted:

Also, we should not forget the fact that someone DID try rushing the Oregon shooter, was shot 5-7 times, and is lucky to still be alive.

It also did not stop the shooter.

Ben Carson is dumb.

They asked Carson if he'd heard of that guy this morning and of course he hadn't.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Piers Morgan wrote a column about what a massive idiot Ben Carson has been lately. I hate agreeing with that fat gently caress on anything, so I doubly hate Ben Carson for making me agree with Piers Morgan on something.

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Do you guys like NPR? Kai Ryssdal interviewed Carson and he sounds like Sarah loving Palin
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/big-book/dr-ben-carson-economy-taxes-and-debt

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

He is Sarah Palin but with the boon of being Dr Mindbrain the Neurosurgeon Prodigy.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Ralp posted:

Do you guys like NPR? Kai Ryssdal interviewed Carson and he sounds like Sarah loving Palin
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/big-book/dr-ben-carson-economy-taxes-and-debt

OH my god.

The article along with the interview goes into one or two of the things but I'm going to expand upon one or two silly things:

1. He says an across the board cut of 3%-4% of spending on everything in government.

2. When pressed, he makes the point that one of the problems is (after the interviewer brings up SNAP) sacred cows. So, I take this to mean (although he'd backtrack on it if called out on it, because that's Carson) that he'd cut the military by the same amount.

3. He thinks that Lean Six Sigma is a great thing, but doesn't seem to be aware that many departments in government are already using it.

So on that note,

quote:

You're gonna see us get back into space. And in the future, he who controls space controls Earth.

Not with 4% budget cuts across the board, you won't. Re-establishing a presence in the Baltic area and a missile defense program doesn't come cheap either.

But, it's Carson. The more he's forced to be in the spotlight as a contender, the less qualified he will sound.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Someone should tell Carson that wanting to control space is hubris in denial of God.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Space, like evolution, is a trick of the devil

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
"He who controls the space controls the universe." — DOctor President Brain Surgeon

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


I'd be afraid someone who was devout enough for a Carson sticker might be too far into the same pills Carson's on to be able to drive

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Didn't we already have an across the board budget cut?

CARSONQUESTER

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Who knows what Backtrackin' Ben will say next!

Best Korea
Feb 15, 2012
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-i-got-held-up-once-at-popeyes-but-i-told-the-gunman-to-rob-an-employee-instead/

quote:

I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeye’s organization,” Carson said on Karen Hunter’s Sirius XM Radio program.
“Guy comes in, put the gun in my ribs,” Carson said.
“I just said, ‘I believe that you want the guy behind the counter,’” Carson said.
The retired brain surgeon did not explain what happened next.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Ralp posted:

"He who controls the space controls the universe." — DOctor President Brain Surgeon

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
Why does he talk like that

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!




"And that's how I saw a minimum wage employee get murdered in front of me. An enlightening experience, really, and I wish I had my gun on me at the time."

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Ben Carson Tells CNN the Holocaust Would Have Gone Differently If the Jews Had Guns

To get things going in an interview, Blitzer reads a passage from Carson's book:

Dumb poo poo Carson Wrote and Published posted:

German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior ... Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.

Ben Carson Sticks to His Retarded Guns posted:


Blitzer: So, just clarify, if there had been no gun control laws in Europe at that time would six million Jews have been slaughtered?

Carson: I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed.

Blitzer: Because they had a powerful military machine, as you know, the Nazis.

Carson: I understand that. I’m telling you that there is a reason that these dictatorial people take the guns first.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/08/ben_carson_tells_cnn_holocaust_could_have_been_different_if_jews_had_guns.html

The more this man is forced to talk because he is near the head of the pack, the more he'll stumble.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Ben Carson: :godwin: + :f5:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


CBA to find it from the primary thread but apparently the dude went "Oh, right." and then repeated the move with the guy behind the counter (AKA the cashier) and held him up for the money in the till.

It did not say what Carson did while this unfolded.

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Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
So if an evil cop is coming to take me away I can shoot him, Doc?

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