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pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2016/05/baylor-has-rape-problem.html

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pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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~1 conviction every 2 recruiting classes :toot:

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Starr forced the players upon Briles, so Briles is a victim in all this too

--Probably a dozen message boards, in some form

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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We might finally have a hint into the true depravity of Baylor now

https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/735915716554182657

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Harvard Law School has a bad rape problem too

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Some firings that are not-yet public

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2016/05/31/baylor-sexual-assault-scandal-football-staffers-fired/85217296/

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Grittybeard posted:

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how both he and the AD originally survived long enough to resign.

They may have been asked not to until arrangements were made to delegate their responsibilities and such. It still very much is a small school and there likely aren't a lot of redundancies that can easily absorb their now-vacant jobs quickly.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://twitter.com/julianturquidez/status/738157892818194432

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Baylor message board seems to think gang rapes are in play


http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307759

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/739856072240988161

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/740259334215589890
https://mobile.twitter.com/schadjoe/status/740260516359081984
https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/740260976474378242

Lebby is the rb/passing game coach

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jun 7, 2016

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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“He’ll be back. It’s his first offense in over a four-year period, and he had some bad judgment, just like a lot of us do. He picked a bad time to do it. … It’s about representing yourself, your family, the Baylor community and making wise decisions. He’s remorseful, but there will also be some punishment phases that go along with the remorse.”

- Briles, when Chafin got picked up for weed this past March

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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EE's asking for releases now

https://mobile.twitter.com/GigEm247/status/740599917136084993

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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This dude's been posting a lot of stuff the past couple days about Baylor, like Starr bringing down the hammer on people caught for weed and not on the other stuff

https://twitter.com/Danderson1125/status/740387976916533248

https://twitter.com/TwittCommit/status/740388253753171971

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/10/another-day-another-disturbing-situation-surfaces-at-baylor/


quote:


Faulk’s departure has angered Jeff Sims, a former assistant at Florida Atlantic and the former head coach at Garden City. Sims, who coached Faulk at both schools, says Baylor is trying to rid itself of anyone who has had an allegation made against him, true or not. And he’s disturbed by something he said new Baylor interim coach Jim Grobe told him when he called to ask why Faulk’s status on the team was in jeopardy over the alleged April incident.

“Grobe says to me, ‘Listen, if he just leaves, he can go on, and we won’t stop him from playing anywhere, and this investigation will stop.'” Flabbergasted at the notion a sexual assault investigation might disappear if an accused player were to leave the team, Sims said he pressed Grobe, but Grobe struggled to be more specific before implying that Baylor administrators had made him remove the player from the team.



“To me, that’s the whole reason they got in trouble — either Jeremy’s innocent, and they should go through the process, and he should get his scholarship back and play. Or he’s guilty, and this girl should get some justice,” Sims said.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Mike_V posted:

If that is even remotely true how does that program not get the death penalty?

They did give Paterno back his wins, and unless they have since amended penalizing tolerance of criminal conduct, they may not want to step in.

Besides, they probably should be way more concerned about Title IX and any relevant federal investigations

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Chichevache posted:

I guess, maybe, appeal to Anonymous and hope they don't turn on the victim?:shrug:

They may still be busy with gamergate and Anita Sarkeesian but maybe when that's over

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Supposedly Briles might be brought back by the really wealthy boosters

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jun 11, 2016

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Bad Moon posted:

Asking the Texas police to investigate a football player is like asking a Chicago mayor to investigate the unions. They're so in bed with each other they don't mind sharing toothbrushes.


Evidently asking the school to do it is somehow worse

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://twitter.com/TwittCommit/status/742029474972065794
https://twitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/741803052919717888

Baylor's kinda gangster. But not in that cool way

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Isn't the most Baylor can enforce, by continuing the investigation, a Dear Colleague letter and turning over their findings to the PD?

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 12, 2016

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Chichevache posted:

Well a forward-thinking institution would investigate it just so they could try to learn a lesson from what happened and hopefully try to make important changes.













:monocle:Whoops, I'm not in Creative Convention.

So, for, like, practice? I mean, sure, if the rape was unique enough, where its investigation challenged and pushed against current protocols to show they were lacking, or it demonstrated a hole in how the victims or due process were accommodated or not. These are absolutely worthy considerations. But due process is shot once the alleged perpetrator leaves, since he or she cannot defend him or her self. If you don't have a state entity with some form of police restricting the perpetrators movements and allowing them to defend themselves, it's kind of a poo poo show. You can't exactly have someone play a stand-in for the accused and then somehow count that among the required statistics and data they have to take. And on top of that, the institution now has to count the incident against itself with the federal statistics for someone they can say, is not a student.

They can go through the motions with a real rape victim sitting against a strawman rapist in their process to continuously modify and self-evaluate, and that can be useful, but it also seems, I dunno, making light of it. I don't even think most victims would even want to play a part in that, even for the sake of self-improvement for the school, but good for them if they can do that sort of thing. Maybe they don't need to involve the victim if the victim doesn't feel justice can be served there, I dunno. It's really tricky, it seems

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Chilichimp posted:

No, dipshit, not for practice. So they can learn how to protect their students and develop a healthy loving paranoia about accepting abusers.

Right, modifying and self-evaluating what they already do, is what I said, when their current handling is shown to be not good enough. Letting the rapist off without any sort of enforcement is letting someone else accept an abuser. This can only keep them prepared for the next time something like this happens, and that's if what they're doing in response is already, inherently insufficient. And, sadly, I don't think most institutions, that aren't openly antagonizing the victims, have sexual assault advocates and investigators with dockets empty enough to be not be paranoid about abusers.

We're arguing the same point, though I guess mine focuses more on the administrative side

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jun 12, 2016

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Now it's hit the texas media people that Baylor hasn't officially fired Briles and can elect to just make it a suspension now, and this wasn't just some twitter fevered dream

So that's neat.

Edit: Poor Ivan Maisel http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/15745510/firing-art-briles-sign-increased-standards-college-football

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jun 13, 2016

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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You know when it would be a great time to reinstate Briles?

Right now, in the shadow of the orlando shooting

But would they dare?

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://twitter.com/BayloRevolution/status/742447448501538816

https://twitter.com/BayloRevolution/status/742494240060510208

I wonder if they're telling recruits that Briles is coming back

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://mobile.twitter.com/TwittCommit/status/743797383037751296

https://mobile.twitter.com/TwittCommit/status/743825611093745666

And also

https://mobile.twitter.com/TwittCommit/status/743824859919089664

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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I'm no defense attorney, but I'm kinda surprised that one would sign off on his client apologizing for wrongdoing before a probably-imminent trial

pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jun 21, 2016

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://mobile.twitter.com/john_shinn/status/745258273830408192

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://mobile.twitter.com/john_shinn/status/745266912733470720

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://twitter.com/TwittCommit/status/745403823766659072

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Big 12 asks for report

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=211028434

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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baylor released 5 players from their LOIs

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Lol baylor didn't even tell the players they were being released before they told the media https://twitter.com/mbpRivals/status/746118449051533312

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Regarding players being let out of their NLI's

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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Q&A with a regent from baylor's 247 site


pillsburysoldier fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 8, 2016

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Deadspin/status/759739962870927360

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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The DA is finally asking for the pepper hamilton report

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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According to SI

The DA’s office has reportedly informally requested access to the report in order to gain information regarding further crimes committed by student-athletes.


Looks like asking

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pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

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http://www.kxxv.com/story/32794719/exclusive-video-shows-baylor-football-player-abusing-dog

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