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BottledBodhisvata posted:The Prime Directive is pretty simple, I thought. Don't give warp technology to primitive societies or indeed elevate their tech in any meaningful way. It's more than just "don't give them tech". It's basically "if they haven't invented warp drive, then don't interact with them in any way or even let them know you exist".
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2015 04:14 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 20:48 |
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I wonder if there was a holodeck programme that was their equivalent to an MMO? Like playing with people from different ships/nearby bases within a few lightyears of eachother. I guess it would depend on how subspace communication works exactly. 400 years of technological progress and still complaining about lag.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2015 19:35 |
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happyhippy posted:The Maquis should have did that atmosphere thingy to Earth in retaliation. If that happened Starfleet would just fix it with some science since they aren't crazy hippies who swore off Utopia in favor of farming REAL TOMATOES on some faraway dirt ball.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2015 23:27 |
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MonsieurLongDong posted:They hit all the beats right, but I think the extended engagement with Vic Fontaine is an effort to get to a classic casino heist that they were having difficulty telling without robbing Quark. The whole crew conspiring to rob Quark could have been one hilarious episode.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2015 19:47 |
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Never heard of this Renegades thing before. What's the deal?
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2015 22:33 |
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I think the fact that people will argue until they're blue in the face about whether killing Tuvix was right or wrong proves that it was in fact a good episode.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 21:01 |
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"The needs of the Tuvok and Neelix outweigh the needs of the Tuvix" - Spock
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 21:48 |
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Janeway did nothing wrong.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2015 01:34 |
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shadow puppet of a posted:Sluggo cola, weaponized. All the Vorta get diabetus.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2015 20:18 |
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I'm Crap posted:they had to change the recipe of the kanar stuff because he was having to drink so much of it that he started "acting strange" Should have just tinted some actual alcohol green or whatever and ran with it.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2015 22:13 |
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shadow puppet of a posted:It should have been a suicide run of tens of thousands of those solar sail ships streaming up from the planet on lovely rockets and flapping open to speed up and penetrate their shields with olde-worlde non-tech that the dominion never considered needing to be able to scan. Explosions of fertilizer bombs with wood and brass fittings shooting everywhere and loving up the works. Bayjies blowing themselves up by the score. Their gods doing nothing to help them but quietly watch. Then later with the massive losses to the industrial and agricultural labour base you'd have a reason to keep continual famines. Holy gently caress that would have been great.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2015 02:57 |
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BottledBodhisvata posted:My girlfriend and I were debating as to why a Vorta comes along with every Jem'Hadar. I explained it was more like a Roman situation, with the Vorta being rich noblemen who buy armies and the Jem'Hadar are the conscripts too poor to say no. Then we discussed whether the Vorta or the Founders are actually responsible for making the Jem'Hadar, and I reckoned that the Founders probably don't actually DO anything in regards to controlling their empire. They lead from the shadows, and I reckon that the Vorta are probably the ones who created the Jem'Hadar, and the Vorta--being genius genetic manipulators--are the chief source of the Founders' artificial military might. Most of this is fairly well explained but possibly easy to miss on a first watch. Spoilers ahead because I'm not sure how much of this is known by season 6. 1) Basically the Jem'Hadar are grunts and the Vorta are analogous to officers. You don't let grunts operate without supervision, there is always an officer around somewhere to make decisions just like any real army today. It's that simple. 2) The Founders are the ones who are the master gene-manipulators. This is clear because the Vorta are as heavily engineered as the Jem'Hadar, just in different ways. The Jem'Hadar's alterations are primarily physical, the Vorta's primarily mental. In both cases loyalty to the founders is heavily ingrained into them. 3) The Founders do indeed operate from behind the scenes most of the time or simply not operate at all and hang out in their pool. In times of peace they probably do very little. Either way pretty much 100% of the day-to-day running of the Dominion is handled by the Vorta, the Founders only handle the highest level decisions or act as elite operatives.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 22:22 |
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BottledBodhisvata posted:But that begs the question of HOW the Founders could do all this stuff while remaining unseen. They have no visible technology--no space ships on their world, no buildings, no infrastructure. Keep in mind the Founders relocate once within the series already, so there is no reason to believe the planet we first see them on is their home world. In fact since it's a specifically hard to find planet inside a nebula it almost certainly not their place of origin. It is a retreat for them, a place where they can pool in seclusion, not a seat of power. For all we know their home world (or other worlds since it's implied their home world is long gone) are technological wonders with enormous facilities. Since Dominion territory is not well explored in the series it's hard to say, but it seems to me that judging the Founder's infrastructure by their pool planet would be like judging American military power by looking at G.W's ranch.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 22:35 |
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"WHY DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND!?" Tujague yells as he bolts up from his chair. His fedora flies of his head and catches a lamp, which tumbles to the floor and shatters it's bulb. From downstairs his mother yells that he better not be breaking stuff again like the last time he got into an argument on the internet.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2015 23:45 |
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Ambrose Burnside posted:probably one of my favourite things is when, iirc after being captured, worf immediately and brutally murders weyoun and dumar just lols shithousedly One of the greatest moments in the entire show.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 05:31 |
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Kitchner posted:Lol at the idea you could genetically engineer a race to never rebel and leave it at that. Uh... yeah? Did you miss all the other redundancies they built in on top of the genetic engineering? The kind that make it clear they specifically did not just genetically engineer them and call it a day? The addiction to White, the brutal hierarchical structure, the control of information, all that poo poo? Did you pay attention during the show?
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 14:27 |
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How dare you plebians disrespect Tujague's dual PHDs in genetic engineering and artificial intelligence. He will prove to the whole world that perfect, thinking slaves can easily be made in both flesh and machine form. In fact he's working on some right now in the basement. He'd probably be done already if mom didn't keep pestering him to find a job.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 21:07 |
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"Normie": a person who gets into internet slap fights and calls people faggots over Star Trek lore. Also loves pony porn.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 21:42 |
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Zigmidge posted:it's all good, all of it
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2015 21:21 |
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Tighclops posted:Even when it's bad Star Trek is still more entertaining than 90% of the poo poo that constitutes broadcast television Yeah. Even though I like to complain about Voyager with everyone else I still watched the whole series and don't regret that time. I'll probably watch Star Trek reruns at least sporadically until I die.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2015 21:28 |
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Nondescript Van posted:I watched the first 6 or so episodes of DS9 and found it boring as poo poo so I skipped it. Does it get better? Either keep watching or get out of this thread.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2015 22:00 |
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My Q-Face posted:This is hilarious. This show isn't doing very well and everybody on the internet is very critical of it, but that's just the internet, let's see what Ira says. Ira says all the same things as the internet, well obviously the problem is with everybody else but us! Just started watching Enterprise for the first time, have only seen the opening episode. The primer on Netflix literally says "no shields, no transporters..." and poo poo. *polarizes hull plating, uses transporter in combat situation in first episode* Gonna be a good run!!!!
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2015 17:48 |
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BottledBodhisvata posted:You are a sad, strange little man...and you have my pity.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 17:05 |
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Would you feel better if he'd said neigh?
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2015 17:48 |
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Nondescript Van posted:Star Trek: Time Cops - follows those time cops from the 29th century as they make every excuse possible to keep Hitler alive. Follow the time cops as they investigate AAtrek and make every excuse possible to deny Mods Knew.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2015 21:21 |
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Germstore posted:Time travelers murdered Hitler in the only temporally responsible way, directly before his suicide. Why do you think he "shot himself" instead of taking a cyanide capsule like Ava? Now I'm imagining a time traveling serial killer who knows goes around killing people right before they would have died anyway.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2015 22:43 |
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shadow puppet of a posted:Klingon underboob and Klingon sideboob are the real undiscovered country.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2015 04:41 |
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TEAYCHES posted:watch the intro theme to enterprise and if you cant stomach that dont watch the series. if you can stomach it kill yourself Star Trek Enterprise: only watch if you have faith of the heart.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 21:13 |
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P-Mack posted:So modern Klingons, like most hypernationalists, are just dumb idiots who are super proud of a past they don't actually know anything about. You haven't read Shakespeare until you've read it in the original Klingon.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 18:44 |
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The General posted:I did and it's glorious.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 15:39 |
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ChogsEnhour posted:This thread made me realise I've seen almost every episode of Voyager without even trying and I feel awful and dirty about that fact now. Well hey, it's better to know what it is you criticize. If you spout "Voyager sucks" even though you've never seen it you're just an angry internet rear end in a top hat. Now you can have an informed "Voyager sucks" opinion, which is much more credible and normal.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2015 15:31 |
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Hard Clumping posted:are you okay? Was really expecting this to be a "same". What a surprise twist.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2015 00:11 |
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I just finished the first season of TOS which I have actually never watched beyond bits and pieces. I'm amazed at how many times they make the same Spock joke in just a single season. I'd say at least six times an episode has ended with him saying "why thank you Captain!" after being compared to a computer, or going "there is no need to insult me!" when they say he's acting human. The writers really love that joke. Good show though. I'm surprised at how well it holds up.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2015 16:18 |
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Baronjutter posted:She could never quite tell if he was just "in character" and loving with her or not, but said the whole scene played out as if it was lifted straight from DS9. If he was just acting as Dukat IRL then the man is a treasure imo.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 03:20 |
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owns
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 15:32 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 20:48 |
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cheerfullydrab posted:Think how little Picard addresses the whole ship to tell people what's going on. Working the majority of jobs on the Enterprise must be this terrifying experience where you never know if you're going to have something unimaginably horrifying happen to you or your loved ones at any second. Think of the frantic rumors spreading up and down when there's Klingons on the starboard bow. Wait staff at Ten Forward probably shake all the time and have terrible PTSD from constantly wondering if they're going to get exploded. It's the uncertainty of things that really gets you. It's funny because there are decent numbers of literal school children who experience their ship regularly rocking under enemy fire, losing power, fires, all kinds of poo poo, all happening out of the blue and with no explanation of what is going on. And every couple of encounters one their classmate's mom or dad is never heard from again. Little shits are probably traumatized as gently caress.
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