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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-27/venezuela-faces-its-strangest-shortage-yet-as-inflation-explodes Apparently Venezuelas money printers are abandoning them due to huge payment delays. And apparently Venezuela largest banknote is 100 bolivars, and citizens still have to haul cash sacks around.
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I wonder if venezuealans can try and claim that they have a right to enter a country without a passport because they are a refugee from a collapsing country, and governmental systems have failed.
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May 2, 2016 05:04
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I suppose Venezuela is going to become the worlds number 1 kleptocracy. I wonder what the governmental branches should be renamed to reflect the fact that venezuela is a kleptocracy.
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May 31, 2016 01:50
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You could replace Maduro and his government with the cast of a soap opera, and it would look exactly the same while actually working as a proper government.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:56
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What is it like for Venezuelans who have recently fled the country to see big box stores that are fully stocked like walmart or costco?
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Jun 6, 2016 08:45
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What can the opposition actually do against Maduro? Form what it looks like, it seems that Chavez and Maduro centralized so much power in the presidency that after the PSUV stacked the judiciary, there is not much the opposition can really do other than try and pass laws that are going to be ignored or struck down by the illegitimate judiciary. The legislature was completely defanged right before they entered power, and they have no way to enforce any laws they can pass.
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Aug 9, 2016 20:59
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I dont know posted:Wall Street Journal did an interesting profile piece on the guy behind blackmarket currency site Dolar Today. As you probably guessed, he is a salesman at an Alabama Homedepot. The idea that a simple guy with a day job at a hardware store could be so influential in Venezuela simply by running a website is amazing.
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Nov 22, 2016 13:59
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So if El Aissami becomes president, would that finally finish the transformation of Venezuela into a kleptocracy?
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Jan 13, 2017 09:25
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Venezuela is becoming a place that people working in accounting in any capacity have nightmares about working in.
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Mar 24, 2017 04:18
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So the justifications the supreme court uses to give power to the psuv are that complex? What are the most egregious examples of the court doing that sort of mind bending '1+1=3' logic?
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Apr 3, 2017 18:25
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"Yeah, if the country you are working in is experiencing dystopian hyperinflation, just use the black market value of the dollar- IRS" Its really incredible that the IRS has a document that directs people to the black market exchange rate for taxation purposes.
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Apr 7, 2017 09:36
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Gort posted:I'm not really sure the title of this thread does it justice. How about Venezuela: It's the loving apocalypse in here Fallout: Venezuela
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Apr 24, 2017 22:29
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Yeah, everything I have heard about colectivos makes them into some sort of chavez cultists.
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Apr 26, 2017 00:16
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Yeah, I am pretty interested in the colectivos armados, since its a guilty pleasure of mine to read this thread to find out what crazy thing is happening next in Fallout: Venezuela. The sheer amount of apathy for the suffering of others and the hypocrisy of the PSUV is fascinating to read about. Honestly, I was giggling when I read about Maduro speaking about having dialogue with the opposition and arresting the opposition in the same breath.
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Apr 26, 2017 02:20
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Pre-military training sounds like something that the Hitler youth in Nazi Germany would go through. The PSUV sounds even more like a National Socialist party based on what you are saying, Hugoon Chavez.
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Apr 26, 2017 14:25
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AstraSage posted:They tried once to use a Donated Batch from Mexico for the CLAP (and hid the fact it was charity to charge for the rations), but they were so blatantly corrupted in how mismanaged its distribution was their "Venezuela doesn't have any Crisis that needs Internacional Aid" Policy is just them not wanting to be in a spot to face off another government or organization without a Bribe-able way out: for a refresher, the safest option to get the supposed "Monthly" (yet Weekly-sized) Ration Pack was always to pay outrageous prices to millitar-aligned scalpers. Venezualas attempt to accept charity sounds interesting, can you guys tell me more about this and the aftereffects when it was found that ration packs were being sold?
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May 15, 2017 22:13
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I can see why the police are in a rough spot. They want to participate in the protest, but they need to obey the regime to get money to eat. And getting thrown in those horrific Venezuelan prisons is a threat good enough to keep them in line.
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May 18, 2017 22:01
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The summary for that book is 'in a post apocalyptic, post scarcity future, young communists discover immortality, but the bourgeoisie will go to war for the one thing their ultra rich selves could never purchase.'
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May 23, 2017 12:11
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Wait, do they PREFER the soviet union!?  Saying a government was backed by the soviet union is not a glowing recommendation for a government!
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May 31, 2017 05:12
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fishmech posted:It certainly doesn't help that the current PSUV policy has to gently caress up most of the left, most of the center and most of the right wing from being able to take power from them. It's made it really easy for it to end up being a hard right coup when it could have been a centrist or even left-center takeover by people actually interested in good governance. Not to mention all the 'We're socalist! No, really. Go Marx!' cries by the PSUV and its allies make any real leftists look bad as socialism is used to try and excuse a kleptocracy. In fact, considering how nationalistic and us vs. them the government has become, as well as how the will of the people is ignored for 'chavez's revolution', and how much the military now controls... Venezuela is one step away from the military explicitly taking control, and completing the transformation into a fascist military junta. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Things are getting pretty bad when semi-organized volunteer medics are joining to actively treat protesters. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-4563190/First-aid-volunteers-risk-lives-Venezuela-protests.html "Government supporters have attacked the first-aid group, which has attended to dozens of injured, as part of a terrorist movement. A prominent presenter on state television called the rescue workers a "paramilitary group" and accused them of creating "false positives" to tarnish the image of Maduro's government." Calling a bunch of unarmed medics a paramilitary group is a new low for the PSUV government.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:05
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Then there was that incident a few years ago where literally tons of meat rotted in a port. Or that power crisis where there were constant browouts and blackouts in caracas because a dam was drying up and there were no other power plants that could help pick up the slack. Over 5 years ago, when Chavez was still thought of with rose tinted glasses, I read an article where a journalist went to the farms that were nationalized then given back to the people in pieces. He discovered that there was no farming happening at all in most of them, and people were paying others to stay on the land and collect the subsidy. I remember it because the sheer flagrant waste stuck in my mind, as well as the similarity to what happened in zimbabwe where white landowners with huge productive farms had their property seized and given to landless blacks who had no idea how to farm. Some links from back then: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-lt-venezuela-agrarian-revolution-052409-2009may24-story.html http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106620230 Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Apparently venezuela is running out of tear gas and riot gear, and can't buy any from brazil or china due to their poor credit rating. https://panampost.com/sabrina-martin/2017/06/08/venezuelan-dictatorship-turns-to-chile-as-it-runs-out-of-anti-riot-gear-to-quash-protests/
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Jun 9, 2017 19:08
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Even if the opposition was supported by imperialist intrests, it would still be better than maduros government. It takes a special kind of crazy to ruin a country so thoroughly. When the security forces start looting and stealing because they can/because they are not paid enough to live day to day, things are truly terrible. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 16:56
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Saladman posted:I don't think "death due to insufficient maintenance" counts as assassination, even if the chronic lack of maintenance was due to the maintenance money being stolen by corrupt officials. I wonder if there was a specific incident that prompted the ban on Venezuelan airlines.
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Jul 5, 2017 09:16
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Who attacked the assembly? One of the colectivo groups? Police? The army?
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Jul 5, 2017 20:37
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This is a disturbing echo of the Nazi brownshirts attacking their opposition. Venezuela looks more and more like an incompetent echo of nazi germany every day.
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Jul 6, 2017 06:00
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The chavez militas are going to be a nightmare for any future government to deal with.
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Jul 11, 2017 01:22
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But the internet is already international, how else are we all communicating on this forum?
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Jul 15, 2017 20:40
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Some of the stuff maduro says and does is so absurd I wonder if venezuela is a Tropioco 6 ad.
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I honestly pity the MUD. I may live in the US and have no perspectives outside of news articles and this thread, but once the supreme court was loaded up with PSUV cronies by the outgoing legislature back in 2015, the oppositions authority was crippled. They kept trying to pass legislation that kept getting blocked by the supreme court. The MUD seems to have a lot of high minded idealists who want to do things clean and follow the laws, believing in the legitimacy of their election and that the government will follow its own rules. But since the PSUV has thourghly ensnared the presidency, military, and judiciary, the oppositions power over the government via legislation is gone.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:38
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fnox posted:They're a combination of parties too broad for its own good. It's filled with way too many differing opinions, some of which (like UNT's) are directly toxic to the cause as they are willing to make concessions to the government or do things independently from the bloc. We need them to take a hardline stance and they're still unwilling to commit to that. I concede to you on that point. I just wonder what a hardline stance even looks like after the recall referendum was unlawfully ended. Get the US to sanction all oil imports and exports to and from venezuela?
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Aug 1, 2017 20:25
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So if you want to whet your teeth in arguement or stare at the Tankie herd being morons, https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism is a good place to go. These people believe everything Telesur says. https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/6qxvym/tens_of_thousands_in_the_streets_in_venezuela/ People were saying they want maduro in power because venezuelan socialism was botched so badly that an imperialist right wing dictator being installed by the CIA is inevitable if the PSUV is removed from power... ignoring the majority leftist MUD or any other facts Apparently they still think that venezuelan oil is what the 'imperialist' US is after. During a fracking boom in the US that has crashed the oil market with oil much easier to refine than venezuelas. I got alerted to the above thread by https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/, which is a good place to find and laugh at idiot tankies and extreme leftists.
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So are PDVSA ports a giant oil slick? I mean, if crude is leaking out of the pipes enough that the ships are dirty... I wonder if the ocean around the places where the crude is pumped onto the ships is flammable due to all the leakage.
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Aug 3, 2017 01:37
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There are probably going to be more smash and grab attacks on the military and colectivos in the future, since they have a monopoly on guns and explosives.
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MullardEL34 posted:In other Batshit Crazy PSUV news, Diosdado Cabello may have attempted to order a hit on Senator Marco Rubio. The PSUV really has degenerated into becoming a gang of criminals if Cabello did this. I can see the FBI/CIA classifying venezuelas PSUV government and military as a criminal orginization if they become even worse. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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Yeah, if the threat is credible, and any more hits on US government officials are done, the US is perfectly justified in doing anything militarily to venezuela, from commando raids to drone strikes to actively supporting and arming a violent resistance. This threat also perfectly justifies Trump saying military action is on the table. If Cabello's hit succeeds, or more are found to be ordered on US politicians, Cabello will have plunged venezuela into a war with the USA. edit: Just read that they got this info last month. I can see why Trump was so salty with Maduro if this was on his mind. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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When I read that ortega and her husband escaped by boat, I immediately thought the couple got in a rowboat and frantically paddled out of venezuela.
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Aug 19, 2017 03:57
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Its really darkly hilarious that venezuela is more and more reliant on the dollar and is bound in deals with russia and china for all the nationalism and such the PSUV spout. America is the financial lifeline of venezuela and the PSUV has made the USA their 'imperialist' overlords by looting and neglecting the country's businesses and infastructure so much that selling to a US refinery is their main income stream.. Now the US controls indirectly the livelihood of all venezuela, and if they starve even more.
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That International Commision of Jurists report on how the venezualen supreme court doomed the MUD efforts to do anything after the election is pretty eye opening. It shows how the opposition was neutered the mement it came into power by the judiciary, and so all they can do is push ineffectualy against the corrupt judiciary while talking and making symbolic motions. Armed rebellion seems to be the only answer now, but the non-military weapons are all held by criminals/chavismo gangs.
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