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I heard people hyping up DC Rebirth so I picked it up. All it did was make me appreciate Valiant more. And I am upset about the watchmen crossover. I was never into Flash, but is his origin really that he got struck by lightning and had chemicals spilled on him at the same time? And the second flash had the same thing happen for some reason? The closest thing to something that dumb in Valiant is Q&W, and that's a comedy so it has a pass.
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 17:35 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 13:09 |
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bobkatt013 posted:It happened in the silver age! All the origins are crazy, and they have recon it to saying it was the speed force. Boy I'm glad Valiant doesn't have to deal with that BS. You'd think that in the numerous reboots, somewhere they would come up with a better origin than "simultaneous chemical spill and lightning strike" for the various Flashes. This was a great week. Even though I could see how people wouldn't like the it was all in his head ending of BS:R, I think it was handled well and gave some excellent insight to the character. Imperium ended well though I think it needs another arc, and Divinity is on fire holy poo poo.
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 19:35 |
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LordPants posted:Finally caught up on this, I wasn't disappointed so much because it leads organically into the next thing, but I thought it would have been cooler if it was real otherwise I think it's good. If it was any different, there would have been some serious contradictions with the Book of Death series. I cannot think of any other way, to be honest. At least we get to see some more insight into what makes that character tick.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2016 02:59 |
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X-O posted:4001 AD Shadowman is the first Shadowman book (outside of the Ninjak arc) that I've really loved. I think this should just be the Shadowman going forward. I'm gonna be sad when 4001 AD ends and this version goes away. I don't think it is going anywhere. There are too many loose ends in the new Shadowman for them to leave them dangling forever. My guess is that Rai, the 4001AD Bloodshot, warmother, Rai, Shadowman and maybe another Rai character are going to form a team book. Maybe theyll fight the antagonist in the Shadowman book.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 03:44 |
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Valiant is putting Marvel and DC to shame when it comes to Harvey nominations as well. And Dark Horse, Image, Boom and IDW... combined. Over twice the nominations from last year. Some categories they have five out of six nominations. We know they tend to skew above average when paying their talent, so that combined with having really good books means lots of Harvey nominations.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 14:09 |
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Endless Mike posted:Harvey nominations are meaningless. I haven't heard this. Other than the various reasons all awards are meaningless, what is up with the Harveys? The nominations and votes are cast by writers, artists, etc, so it very well could just be a popularity contest in how a publisher treats their talent, and not be based on the actual work.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 14:48 |
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Endless Mike posted:The short version is that virtually anyone associated with a comic company is able to submit nominations, so the companies "encourage" their workers to nominate their books, and for sake of fairness there's little to no editing done by the Harvey committee after the fact, instead just picking whatever garnered the most nominations. Makes sense. Though for all I know NASCAR heroes could be good. It is interesting that the bigger guys, who employ more talent, don't make a harder push. Why wouldn't Image rally their talent more?
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 16:28 |
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That's a shame. Too bad it's the best comics has at the moment as far as a sticker that proves that the product is good. When i convinced a co-worker to try Valiant, he requested "whichever one won the most awards". I gave him Divinity.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 16:47 |
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That's a good sticker. There are no good Valiant podcasts, despite there being lots to talk about. The only one I like is VCR, but that is only because of the Canadian. They are all just recorded Skype conversations. They don't use cameras so there is lots of pauses where people are afraid to talk over each other. It makes me really appreciate podcasts that use a camera. It is important to signal that you have something to say, that you are done talking and need your cohosts to step in or that your partner needs to wrap it up. There is minimal editing, no format, and off topic rant fests by old angry men. Awful sound quality because no one has a decent mic and records their own tracks. Everyone sounds either angry or bored. I thought board game podcasts were bad, but this is something else. If I could find some folks who have their own decent mics and read (or want to read) Valiant, I would start my own drat podcast. I don't know if I have any sort of charisma, but at least I'd get the technical parts right.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2016 15:01 |
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LordPants posted:I own a microphone! Spitballing a format, I am thinking it would be something akin to Gilmore Guys (I know I know) where there is a host or two who are big fans who have read everything, and one (or two) absolute newcomers to Valiant. The company prides itself on how each arc is totally accessible to newcomers, so the new person can test that. Hopefully they like it. Each week, we review the week's books and one (or two) older books, starting at whatever book we feel is best for folks new to Valiant. It'll be hard at first, but we'll discuss the books only in the context of the books we covered previously to not spoil anything for the newcomer. Over time, we'll work our way through the tapestry. I like this format because hopefully, if it is good, it is something people will point to when people ask 'Where do I start with Valiant?' In the meantime, I'll contact Valiant to see how easy it would be to get review copies of books. If those other people can do it, why not us?
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2016 16:30 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Is it bad that I have basically given up reading all comics except for Valiant? Seems like a common thing. Personally, I cannot give up my selection of Image series. I don't like the new A&A. Right now, that is the only weak Valiant book on the shelf IMO.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 15:14 |
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LordPants posted:I would 100% listen to this podcast. The two big challenges are finding cohosts who meet the criteria and getting Valiant to send review issues. I have you for one of the pros, and an email out to Valiant. We'll see how it shakes out.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2016 04:49 |
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They left enough dangling threads that I would be surprised if Shadow-woman, Warmother, and Bloodshot's nanites don't get together at some point and fight future evil.
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 14:05 |
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The biggest problem with Shadowman is that he was misnamed. He should be named 'LittleWhinyBabyMan'.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2016 14:14 |
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I feel like there was a fun meta narrative by Valiant when they locked up Shadowman for a couple years as a punishment for his terrible series.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2016 22:29 |
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Rhyno posted:New #0 out today. Definitely not for people just getting into Valiant... Start with reborn #1 or The Valiant.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2017 05:16 |
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The last year wasn't great, but I certainly think they are back on the right track.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2017 21:07 |
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I don't know if it is still there, but if you want to read bloodshot salvation before next Wednesday, check out Comixology. They accidentally posted it a week early, but they might have taken it down by now. In any case, I've read it and I just want to brag.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2017 07:46 |
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X-O posted:Dammit. Dammit. Dammit. Well, it was a good run. It is all likely to get lovely, but my controversial opinion is that the last year or so has been less than great. Between teasing about a dozen tv/movie projects, Rafer Roberts A&A/Renegades, Gen Zero, and 'Ninjak Vs', there have been quite a few missteps imo. Maybe it will get better? Oh who am I kidding, they will make a couple lovely movies, a couple lovely TV shows, everything will underperform, and theyll cut their losses by selling the IP to Disney, where our beloved characters will collect dust for all eternity.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2018 05:33 |
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Covok posted:Should I panic? Because, I really like this universe and I'm worried about it. Well they usually have about 6-10 months worth of stuff already planned at any given time. I doubt they will throw all that out, so we're good for that long. After that, we'll see! They say they won't mess with it, and so far the editorial board is staying, so if we take them at their word, everything is going to be okay. But this kind of thing has happened before and it hasn't turned out well so it's teaching us all an important lesson... Enjoy things when they are good because at anytime it all can be turned to garbage and thrown out.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2018 15:02 |
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Forgetting to ask Sony about Ninjak vs the Valiant Universe then spending a bunch of money on it might have been what made DMG pull the trigger. That seems like a pretty expensive avoidable mistake.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2018 05:38 |
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If it is anything like the comics, and the card game, prepare to be underwhelmed. The card game is likely to be the best Ninjak Vs related item, and that isnt saying much.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2018 15:33 |
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I thought Lemire was one of the folks who was only there because of Warren Simons. I wouldn't be surprised if he is going.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2018 14:51 |
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Boy, Jeff Lemire left Valiant with a big ol fart with that last Bloodshot Salvation comic.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 05:00 |
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I'm pretty negative on Valiant nowadays. Letting Joshua Dysart finish his run might be the last good thing they do before their corporate overlords shut them down. Now that Life and Death is done, they don't really have any outstanding books. They've had slumps before, but I don't trust the current leadership to work themselves out of the current slump.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2019 15:22 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 13:09 |
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No. Life and Times of Hirada was the last good valiant book. Everything else is decent at best, horrible at worst.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2019 17:16 |