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Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

A former coworker went to that school. Nice guy, pretty good (but squeaky clean) sense of humor. Never brought up religion at work. Very sheltered about everything though and if discussion ever got slightly blue he would be visibly uncomfortable. He met his wife at that college. She was a legit model -- actually worked regularly -- and looked like one. Made me wonder if maybe he had everything figured out.

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FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Furia posted:

Holy poo poo. How do these guys survive among all the loving paranoia this must cause?

More importantly, how the hell does anyone willing pay other people to oppress them to the point at which their living space is subject to search by literally anyone at any time?

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

deadly_pudding posted:

It's good training for their subsequent lifetime of fostering a weird persecution complex toward the secular authorities.

If I was the government I would recruit for the CIA out of that school. Anyone who went the whole time without getting a demerit is either crazy or genius at not getting caught

flerp
Feb 25, 2014

FoolyCharged posted:

More importantly, how the hell does anyone willing pay other people to oppress them to the point at which their living space is subject to search by literally anyone at any time?

its their parents that send them there

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

FoolyCharged posted:

More importantly, how the hell does anyone willing pay other people to oppress them to the point at which their living space is subject to search by literally anyone at any time?

They're sheltered and home schooled. A lot of them WANT to go to a school like that.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
After blanket training those rules should be easy to follow.

Oh yeah, blanket training is one of the most hosed-up things in evangelicalism. See, if you're one of those families that focus on having as many children as possible, you may not be able to supervise your kids all the time, and you probably also believe that children should learn to obey their elders without question. So if you put you baby on a blanket and swat her with an implement (a wooden spoon, thin plastic tubing, or a willowy branch) whenever she tries to leave the blanket, she'll come to associate leaving the blanket with pain and will stay put for hours. Now you can leave your baby alone so you can focus on "training" her numerous siblings. :gonk:

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
I refuse to believe that PCC isn't a remarkably elaborate creation of The Onion, holy poo poo

flerp
Feb 25, 2014

Pththya-lyi posted:

After blanket training those rules should be easy to follow.

Oh yeah, blanket training is one of the most hosed-up things in evangelicalism. See, if you're one of those families that focus on having as many children as possible, you may not be able to supervise your kids all the time, and you probably also believe that children should learn to obey their elders without question. So if you put you baby on a blanket and swat her with an implement (a wooden spoon, thin plastic tubing, or a willowy branch) whenever she tries to leave the blanket, she'll come to associate leaving the blanket with pain and will stay put for hours. Now you can leave your baby alone so you can focus on "training" her numerous siblings. :gonk:

also, that philosophy believes that babies are malicious and deliberately disobeying you so they can have complete control so the beatings are not only good, but necessary to keep order.

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Argue posted:

I'm sorry that page 1 is so small but the rest are a good size


My personal highlight is page 2, items 8 and 9 on the gender differences list

Concentrated, come in spurts

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

EvilJoven posted:

You know what's awesome, when your psycho religious homeschooling control issues mother in law is told by her face that she was a complete failure as a mother and educator and now all 4 of her kids are into various levels of substance use/abuse, absolutely love sex out of wedlock and their religious affiliations span from agnostic to maltheist.

Oh and half of them eat a poo poo ton of meat.

Gg crazy Adventist mother in law, your entire life is a failure.

That actually,sounds pretty sad and terrible for that family, what is "awesome" about that?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Commie NedFlanders posted:

That actually,sounds pretty sad and terrible for that family, what is "awesome" about that?

EvilJoven is probably a drug dealing satanist who also owns a steakhouse.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

deadly_pudding posted:

It's good training for their subsequent lifetime of fostering a weird persecution complex toward the secular authorities.

I used to roll my eyes at stupid people like bill o rielly when they cried about a culture war and liberal war on Christianity, it all seemed so silly and exaggerated and fake and projecting but reading GBS often makes me consider that they have a point

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Commie NedFlanders posted:

I used to roll my eyes at stupid people like bill o rielly when they cried about a culture war and liberal war on Christianity, it all seemed so silly and exaggerated and fake and projecting but reading GBS often makes me consider that they have a point

Hail Satan.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

FoolyCharged posted:

More importantly, how the hell does anyone willing pay other people to oppress them to the point at which their living space is subject to search by literally anyone at any time?

Um you do realize that in some crazy radical extreme circles, discipline is considered s virtue and foundation for growth and success.

Ever heard of a military school?


There's a point to structure and discipline ya bunch of hedonist monkeys

Mr. Merdle
Oct 17, 2007

THE GREAT MANBABY SUCCESSOR

I think it would be fun to hang out on the corner opposite PCC and play Night Ranger on high volume.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Does anyone in GBS ever wish they had more structure, discipline, and rules growing up?


When I was a stupid petulant child only concerned with getting my rocks off, I thought "the man" with all of his "rules" existed solely to stop me from being happy.


Now that I'm an adult, I look back and wish my parents were more strict than they were

Commie NedFlanders fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Sep 19, 2015

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Lil Peeler posted:

I think it would be fun to hang out on the corner opposite PCC and play Night Ranger on high volume.

I bet they get more of s thrill and rush and high than some spoiled hedonist kid doing lines of coke and staring at their reflection in the mirror, slowly watching their life spiral out of control and wondering why "having it all" isn't as fulfilling as the MTV made it seem

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
lol

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Do you guys remember why seeing a side boob or holding a girls hand was so exciting and thrilling when you were 13, but now all of the drugs and filthy perverted porn and date raping some addict at a party can barely make your numb and infected penis twitch?


Living a highly structured and disciplined life with a strict ethical code produces far more enjoyment when you push the limits than does trying to live without limits

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
nedflanders youre really bad and boring

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Lol a self obsessed hedonistic generation ofmmillenials would think that being "boring" is the worst sin

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

FoolyCharged posted:

More importantly, how the hell does anyone willing pay other people to oppress them to the point at which their living space is subject to search by literally anyone at any time?

i went to a non-crazy college and iirc the legal agreement for living on campus had some things in it about searching/inspection. this is actually a good thing because undergrads are disgusting. one year the dudes living in the apartment-dorm next to mine were so unsanitary that they had a roach infestation, and it grew to the point where roaches were expanding their territory through the walls between us and into our kitchen. i had to give away the microwave i had just bought that year because i eventually developed a cause --> effect mental association of "open the microwave door" --> "a family of roaches scurries out from under it to hide elsewhere". to this day, when i visit the person to whom i gave that microwave, i will sometimes shudder involuntarily when i enter their kitchen :gonk:

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Lol a self obsessed hedonistic generation ofmmillenials would think that being "boring" is the worst sin

lol

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Broenheim posted:

nedflanders youre really bad and boring

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Commie NedFlanders posted:

Lol a self obsessed hedonistic generation ofmmillenials would think that being "boring" is the worst sin

You pushed the schtick too far too fast. You were on a roll in the beginning, though.

the future is WOW
Sep 9, 2005

I QUIT!

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Do you guys remember why seeing a side boob or holding a girls hand was so exciting and thrilling when you were 13, but now all of the drugs and filthy perverted porn and date raping some addict at a party can barely make your numb and infected penis twitch?


Living a highly structured and disciplined life with a strict ethical code produces far more enjoyment when you push the limits than does trying to live without limits

I don't know man, I still get really excited when I see a little side boob and I'm 40. And that's a pretty well lived 40, with booze and drugs and girls and everything so I say you're a little off there.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

I'm a sinner but I wish to please the Lord, not some fedora wearing, sonic the hedgehog Cheetos stained t-shirt wearing, men's rights college republican something something something idk

the future is WOW
Sep 9, 2005

I QUIT!
Whatever makes you happy, dude.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
Sometimes I wish I was fatter so I could look at my own sideboobs and make my numb and infected penis twitch.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

P-Mack posted:

The sex at that place must be hot as hell, what with the thrill of staying one step ahead of the gently caress police.

I dated a girl who was going to a religious school and was hanging out with her and a bunch of her girlfriends in a dorm when she mentioned her period came later than usual that month and I was like "haha shucks that sure was a scare!" and she had to explain to me later why the room got really quiet and I wasn't allowed back to that one girl's dorm anymore

AWarmBody
Jul 26, 2014

Better than a cold one.

Nckdictator posted:

You may not put up a picture of unmarried people in physical contact unless they are of little kids (no age given at which time a “little kid” is no longer a “little kid”) (these are sold in the bookstore).

Does this include family photos (e.g. siblings/parents doing the awkward hand-on-shoulder thing)? Or is that too sexy for PCC?

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

The Mentalizer posted:

Whatever makes you happy, dude.

no didn't you hear hedonism is bad

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Commie NedFlanders posted:

That actually,sounds pretty sad and terrible for that family, what is "awesome" about that?

Because enjoying getting laid an occasional drink or watching a good movie isn't at all terrible but the things she and most other homeschooling nutjob parents put their kids through to keep them from doing these things usually are.

gently caress homeschooling parents. They're all insane and the last people who should be allowed to raise children.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
a paralysing, pearl-clutching, pants-making GBS threads fear of fun & games

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

DreamShipWrecked posted:

I'm sorry I am confused are these rules for 22 year olds or 12 year olds?

I have a client who got into a religious university's medical school.

Two years in, he was 28, and living off-campus. And he had a girlfriend. And she spent the night.

an expurgated chat log posted:


Me:
oh crap

Client:
the thing is that when i went to [RELIGION] college
drinking and premarital sex happend all the time
and the school asked me about my drug and alcohol use

both of which i answered trutfully
premarital sex was never mentioned
but still it was on the student handbook
and i did not read it

the thing is that it happaned in my clas s too
a lot

unfortunately, my landlady was a conservative christian

and she went to the school

after that, the school moved me to the dorm

He was summoned to a Moral Discipline hearing. All his buddies told him to emphasize how there was no proof, but he wanted to do the Right Thing and Not Sin By Lying , so he made a full confession that, yes, he had had sexual intercourse.

He was placed on academic suspension, whereby he could continue attending class but any further misbehavior would lead to immediate expulsion. He was given 30 hours of community service (which could not include any medical activities), and mandatory counseling. (He never did the counseling.)

And many of his professors became hostile towards him, to the point that they insulted, mocked, and yelled at him, in class.

(so he contacted me to help him transfer to a better school)

quote:


Me:
okay, here's a very important question
are you still [RELIGION?]

Client:
yes I feel that im [RELIGION]
there are things that I follow

Me:
and things that you don't, right.

Client:
but even before I was baptized, I see the premarital sex in those that introduced me to [RELIGION]
maybe I had the wrong idea
but I still follow many of the rules
Ive asked one person that introduce me to [RELIGION]
he has various girlfriends and he told me as long as you love God
I guess I have a weakness with women
I think many men do

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
Fundamentalists colleges are creepy. I wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole. That said, I really do feel bad for the students at college's like that, most Fundamentalists I've met mean well and are rather nice people, their just horrifically naive and terrified of being "persecuted".

http://www.bju.edu/life-faith/student-handbook.pdf

(loling at having to attend a pre-approved church, wouldn't want to attend one of them liberal churches.

quote:


Students are expected to attend all Sunday morning activities of a local
fundamental church ...The regional church list, which is available on the intranet at home.bju.edu/life/
regionalchurches.pdf, lists a number of fundamental churches that students may
attend.

On and off campus, physical contact between unmarried men and women is
not allowed....

Students may be together in any well-lit outside location on front campus until
10:20 p.m. Monday through Saturday and until 5 p.m. on Sunday. (The Den is
also open from 7–10 p.m. on Sunday.) Front campus is marked by the shaded area
on the adjacent map—in front of the Student Center and the Alumni Building,
behind the Alumni Building to the gazebo, down West Drive to the front of the
Davis Field House, the tennis courts and Collegiate Drive in front of the women’s
residence halls. Couples or mixed groups are not to socialize inside the parking
garage.

Men and women students should guard their testimonies; they are not to be alone
together in a classroom, rehearsal studio or other room.

Residence hall students may not be alone with a member of the opposite sex off campus.

Students are to avoid any types of
entertainment that could be considered immodest or that contain profanity,
scatological realism, sexual perversion, erotic realism, lurid violence, occultism
and false philosophical or religious assumptions.

The following music conflicts with our mission and is therefore excluded
from performance, personal listening on and off campus, or use in student
organizations, societies, student productions, outreach ministries or social media:

Any music which, in whole or in part, derives from the following broadly
defined genres or their subgenres: Rock, Pop, Country, Jazz, Electronic/Techno,
Rap/Hip Hop or the fusion of any of these genres.

Any music in which Christian lyrics or biblical texts are set to music which is,
in whole or in part, derived from any of these genres or their subgenres

In a related area, because of the sensual nature of many of its forms, dancing is
not permitted.

Students are not to watch movies on campus. In homes students may view G-rated
movies and movie trailers. In a faculty/staff home students may view certain PG
movies when the faculty or staff member watches with students and objectionable
elements are discussed. Guidelines are in place to help faculty make choices.
Unrated movies frequently contain objectionable content that has not been cut to
meet rating standards and are not appropriate. Students are not to attend a movie
of any rating in a public theater during a semester or summer school session in
which they are enrolled. This includes when away from campus overnight and
the weekends preceding summer school sessions. In addition, students are to
avoid displaying on campus any screen savers, buttons or other objects promoting
movies rated PG-13 or above.

Televisions in residence hall rooms may be used as game consoles or computer
monitors only. Students are not to watch television shows, movies, movie trailers
or sports broadcasts on their cellphones or computers. In homes students may
view appropriate television programming with a rating up to TV-PG.

Students are not to play video games rated above E10 or games that contain
graphic blood or gore, sensual or demonic themes, violent first-person shooting,
suggestive dress, bad language or rock music.

BJU uses a content filtering system in
order to restrict access to biblically offensive material on the Internet...Because certain websites often contain extensive sensuality, students are not to
view celebrity websites, secular music lyric sites and humor/joke sites. Occasionally,
an on-campus user inadvertently may get to an objectionable site which the filter
has not caught. Do not assume that if a site is accessible or gets through the filter,
it is OK. Note the web address and report it immediately to filteradmin@bju.edu.

Women’s Dress Code
General Requirements

Clothing should be modest. Clothing that is revealing either because of fabric,
cut or tightness is unacceptable.

Clothing should be loose enough to conceal undergarment lines and not to
draw attention to the figure.

Skirts and dresses, as well as slits in skirts and dresses, are to come to the knee
whether standing or walking. (Please also keep modesty in mind when sitting.)

Necklines should be no lower than four fingers’ width below the collarbone. No
cleavage should be visible.

The back of any article of clothing should not be lower than a normal bra band.

Midriffs are to be covered at all times.

Halter tops or sleeveless or strapless tops and dresses are appropriate student
attire only when covered by a jacket or open blouse.

Shorts may be worn in the residence halls; for day students, shorts are not
appropriate away from home.
(For exceptions, see Recreational/Work Attire, Page 32.)

Spandex pants and flannel pants (sleepwear) may be worn inside the residence
halls; for day students, they are not appropriate away from home.

Terry cloth and velour pants may be worn around the women’s residence halls
and inside the women’s fitness areas.

Abercrombie & Fitch and its subsidiary Hollister have shown an unusual degree of antagonism to biblical morality. Therefore, BJU asks its students not to patronize these stores, wear their clothing or display articles containing their names or logos. BJU also encourages students to avoid other labels that glorify the lustful spirit of our age in their advertising.

Lights out is at midnight, at which time students are to be in their own beds and
quiet with all lights in the room turned off. This precludes talking, studying,
texting and eating between midnight and 5 a.m.
Between 11:30 p.m. and 5 a.m. students are to be in their rooms unless working
on a university work crew. The following half-hour (from 11:30 p.m. until
midnight) is intended for quiet study or fellowship with roommates and to
enable those who need to go to bed early to do so. On Friday and Saturday
evenings, students may visit in each other’s rooms within their residence hall
until midnight

Human sexuality is part of God’s divine design for human beings (Gen. 1:28).
However, the Bible restricts all forms of consensual sexual activity to within the
boundaries of the marriage relationship (1 Cor. 7:1–5; Heb. 13:4). The Bible clearly
prohibits not only non-consensual sexual misconduct (Deut. 22:25–27) but also
any consensual sexual activity outside the boundaries of heterosexual marriage
(1 Thess. 4:1–8). Furthermore the Bible specifically names as sinful and prohibits
any form of sexual activity between persons of the same sex (Rom. 1:26–27; 1 Cor.
6:9–10; 1 Tim. 1:10), polygamy (Matt. 19:4–6; 1 Cor. 7:11), incest
(Lev. 18:6–18; 1 Cor. 5:1), bestiality (Exod. 22:19; Lev. 18:23; 20:15–16; Deut. 27:21;
Gal. 5:19; Eph. 5:3; Col. 3:5), adultery (Exod. 20:14; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20;
James 2:11), and fornication of any sort including pornography (

God created man and woman in His image as two distinct but equal genders which
He intends to use for His glory (Gen. 1:26–27). Furthermore, individual gender
is assigned by God and determined at conception (Ps. 139:13–16). Therefore we
believe that to intentionally alter or change one’s physical gender or to live as a
gender other than the one assigned at conception is to reject God’s right as Creator
to assign gender to His creatures and is a personal rejection of His plan to glorify
Himself through the original gender He assigned that individual

Because the positions set forth in this statement are grounded in the biblical,
moral and ethical commands clearly taught and demanded by Scripture, BJU
expects all employees and students enrolled at BJU to agree with and abide by this
statement on marriage, human sexuality and gender identity.


While it can be beneficial to be culturally literate, every Christian should self-
censor his entertainment choices. Below are common categories of elements that
are biblically objectionable and should be censored:

Profanity

Scatological realism—pertaining to excretory functions

Sexual perversion—adultery, fornication, homosexuality

Erotic realism—explicit descriptions of sexual acts

Lurid violence

Occultism

False philosophical or religious assumptions—the most dangerous, yet the
most overlooked, of all objectionable element

When evaluating an entertainment choice, Christians should ask themselves the
following questions:

Are the characters noble?

Do the actions of the story cause the characters to desire virtue and reject vice?

Does the story’s resolution reward good and punish evil or honor wisdom and
scorn foolishness?

Does the theme of the story conflict with God’s truth? If it does, how? Where is
the flaw?

Nckdictator fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Sep 19, 2015

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



scatological realism

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

VectorSigma posted:

scatological realism

mods name change pls

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Commie NedFlanders posted:

Um you do realize that in some crazy radical extreme circles, discipline is considered s virtue and foundation for growth and success.

Ever heard of a military school?


There's a point to structure and discipline ya bunch of hedonist monkeys

I know you're just goofing, but actual military school wasn't as bad about rules as PCC. I did a six month stint in Air Force technical training, and room inspections were weekly for the first month, then monthly for the rest of the time. No curfew on the weekends. We could wear whatever clothing we wanted when we weren't in class. And even the haircut rules were more relaxed. Holy poo poo, I never thought that would compare favorably to college life.

Content: somebody earlier asked why homeschoolers would join the military. I've met a bunch of them (all of the crazy religious homeschool variety) and it's always one of two reasons. Either they were browbeaten into loving God and country, or they gradually came to realize their homeschool curriculum was nuts and enlisted to escape. Either way, they were always socially stunted and super naive. A very good friend of mine would legit fight back panic attacks during daily PT because we'd be around female recruits wearing (ugly, shapeless) t-shirts and workout shorts. He couldn't talk to women at all, and basically avoided making eye contact with them. Really good dude, one of the nicest people I've ever met, but he had a crazy guilt complex when it came to male/female interaction.

The story has a happy ending, though. He basically made a hobby of watching regular people interact, and tried to base his own habits on that. Maybe three years after tech school, I ran into him and he was totally normal, socially capable, and getting laid on the regular. :unsmith:

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peanut
Sep 9, 2007



Rapunzel-style parenting

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