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Crap
Nov 3, 2012

That Robot posted:

thanks for your black-and-white belief system where you are right 100% of the time

what

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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Moridin920 posted:

Ey here's some actual thoughts though being serious:

We don't have the popularity we used to, obviously. Now we have competition like Reddit and 4chan and such, too.

What are we doing to get new users? Who knows about SA? Like if you're a teenager right now, the only way you really know about it is if someone tells you about it. Then you get to the website, and the 'Forums' button is all the way in the top left, you can also get there through the directory drop down, and there's the popular threads thing, but it really isn't immediately obvious that there are discussion forums and they are the main part of the site.

Basically almost everyone I talk to says they heard about it from a friend, but as our user base and popularity declines we can rely on that word of mouth less and less. I'm pretty sure at this point the bulk of our new users comes from people in MMOs seeing the goon guilds stomp around.

Also, the front page stuff is great (imo) and I loved it a lot when a goon told me about SA, but I was reading the front page for a year before I even realized there were forums. I mean yeah maybe I'm an idiot but I know I'm not the only one whose done that. Maybe we can take some cues from modern webpage design to make the forums more accessible or readily obvious or something.

I think the format is fine. I love that we don't do the stupid upvote or - + poo poo. I think the forums are still (as forums go) one of the best moderated on the internet. There's legit great info in many of the subforums, and good discussion to be had in many others. We've got the product, it's our delivery/marketing that is lacking.

Granted the content has fallen off and that probably makes it a little more difficult (less photoshop phridays means less photos going around on the internet with the SA logo on em) but idk I feel like there's a lot of underutilized talent that could be given some direction with a free plat or avatar contest for the best shop or something like that.


longform snipe

I think making the forums more visible is a good idea, and also making them a little more friendly to people without an account yet. The autoplay video that pops up if you try to access a thread behind the paywall is funny and all, but I bet there is a significant population that hit it and immediately close the tab. It's not really worksafe, either, in the sense that it can be really drat loud.

Maybe something along the lines of what a lot of newspapers are doing, with a limited number of free pageviews and a nag screen would help drive new regs?

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:
We need to make another goonbase.

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

maybe the problem is that people click on the first forum in the list and see a horrible cesspool and decide to never visit the site again

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

thatfatkid posted:

Bring back LF.
With a caveat: because of the name the forum actually has to be pro-Libertarianism.

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord
you should make a free section that paid members can view and post in, while the free members cannot access the regular forums. this lets them try out the forums experience while not using the actual forums.

this is try before you buy, but in this case it's before you spend ten american dollars.

also it would be p funny if you spun up the "$10 Illuminati" as a shrewd marketing move

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

Booourns posted:

maybe the problem is that people click on the first forum in the list and see a horrible cesspool and decide to never visit the site again

gbs is fine as it is

i don't know why you're so upset about people making fun of everything on a comedy website

Bwee
Jul 1, 2005

Booourns posted:

maybe the problem is that people click on the first forum in the list and see a horrible cesspool and decide to never visit the site again

Hello, I looked at the main page of "Reddit" today and the topics/links were al at least mildly amusing, interesting, etc., but the main page of the Something's Awful forums has threads about porn and AIDS

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Bwee posted:

Hello, I looked at the main page of "Reddit" today and the topics/links were al at least mildly amusing, interesting, etc., but the main page of the Something's Awful forums has threads about porn and AIDS

Sounds like you found a happy new home. That's good bc everyone deserves a forum they enjoy instead of one they endlessly complain about. ^_^ Good luck w your karma!

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



That Robot posted:

gbs is fine as it is

i don't know why you're so upset about people making fun of everything on a comedy website

I think that hating on GBS has passed from being a hobby to a vocation for some people.

Tom Brady
Oct 17, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
I care a heck of a lot about new goons joining the site and the profitability of this business I'm not vested in because,

Arianya
Nov 3, 2009

Honestly, I use to keep ABP off because the community ads from threads and stuff was interesting but now every 3 out of 4 I see is aggro-gator clickbait hidden behind bit.lys so I just leave ad block on because its just a waste of bandwidth to load the tumblr gif that this weird pseudo-reddit uses for its ads?

Arianya fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Sep 16, 2015

Ghost of SA Past
Sep 16, 2015
Thanks, Richard. Registered a new account this morning. Hope that helps.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Tom Brady posted:

I care a heck of a lot about new goons joining the site and the profitability of this business I'm not vested in because,

Because I like to post and it's nice when new, funny people join the website.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

In Training posted:

Because I like to post and it's nice when new, funny people join the website.

Quick someone translate another Dangan Ronpa title.

Tom Brady
Oct 17, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

In Training posted:

Because I like to post and it's nice when new, funny people join the website.

Yeah, I mean, i can't really disagree that when a funny person is here its good. Theres a new gbs poster 'deep impact on vhs' and not only is that a funny name i think hes a really funny poster

probably a rereg

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

zen death robot posted:

You clicked on your post history by mistake, I'm afraid.

Agreed, Bwee's post history is amusing/interesting etc.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!
If OP were posting more I bet more ppl would register.

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:
That dropsy the clown goon should give SA a cut of those indie game earnings, same with the let's players. Tell 'em it's "protection money."

Crap
Nov 3, 2012

That Robot posted:

gbs is fine as it is

i don't know why you're so upset about people making fun of everything on a comedy website

what

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

That Robot posted:

gbs is fine as it is

i don't know why you're so upset about people making fun of everything on a comedy website

the tism

Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape

serious norman posted:

If OP were posting more I bet more ppl would register.

After mangosteen I'm surprised he didn't just set the servers on fire.

pog boyfriend
Jul 2, 2011

Toasticle posted:

After mangosteen I'm surprised he didn't just set the servers on fire.

i have some chinese girl friends who talk about how good mangosteen is sometimes and i know exactly what they are talking about thanks to something awful!!

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

you're the one who floods threads with huge images and/or the entire texts of novels

its p dumb, man


no idea who you even are :shrug:

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

That Robot posted:

you're the one who floods threads with huge images and/or the entire texts of novels

its p dumb, man


no idea who you even are :shrug:

im agreeing with you man

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Booourns posted:

maybe the problem is that people click on the first forum in the list and see a horrible cesspool and decide to never visit the site again

yea I know a lot of people complain about the days when most gbs threads were just copy-pasted news stories, but lots of mentally healthy people like to discuss current events, and only a small handful of mentally broken middle-aged men like to obsess over transexuals, children's cartoons, prostitutes, and video games from 15 years ago

those are all actual examples of things that have multiple threads on the front page of gbs

trying to jack off
Dec 31, 2007

little munchkin posted:

yea I know a lot of people complain about the days when most gbs threads were just copy-pasted news stories, but lots of mentally healthy people like to discuss current events, and only a small handful of mentally broken middle-aged men like to obsess over transexuals, children's cartoons, prostitutes, and video games from 15 years ago

those are all actual examples of things that have multiple threads on the front page of gbs

which ad is this?

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

little munchkin posted:

yea I know a lot of people complain about the days when most gbs threads were just copy-pasted news stories, but lots of mentally healthy people like to discuss current events, and only a small handful of mentally broken middle-aged men like to obsess over transexuals, children's cartoons, prostitutes, and video games from 15 years ago

those are all actual examples of things that have multiple threads on the front page of gbs

Yeah idk what people's huge problem with discussing topical things is.

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Moridin920 posted:

Yeah idk what people's huge problem with discussing topical things is.
It made people realize the forums were getting full of older people who liked discussing news, instead of college students who liked posting dank memes and "look at this weird poo poo from other sites" threads.

Also something about people posting things in relevant subforums, except we have so many of those that there's not much left to post in GBS.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

The ads are a moot point thanks to iOS 9

trying to jack off
Dec 31, 2007

Haifisch posted:

It made people realize the forums were getting full of older people who liked discussing news, instead of college students who liked posting dank memes and "look at this weird poo poo from other sites" threads.

Also something about people posting things in relevant subforums, except we have so many of those that there's not much left to post in GBS.

i havent seen this ad either

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


sa is a comedy website but comedy needs actual things to talk about and make fun of. you can't just have it on its own, and that's why /b/ and nuGBS are as bad as they are. but GBS was always bad, because it always had that problem

This Jacket Is Me
Jan 29, 2009

It looks like the frog is whispering all that gobblty gook into the hampster ear! Chortle audiably!

trying to jack off
Dec 31, 2007

icantfindaname posted:

sa is a comedy website but comedy needs actual things to talk about and make fun of. you can't just have it on its own, and that's why /b/ and nuGBS are as bad as they are. but GBS was always bad, because it always had that problem

terrible ad. thanks for reporting it

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost
The aggro-gator ads are unfunny garbage, let's not do that anymore

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Haifisch posted:

It made people realize the forums were getting full of older people who liked discussing news, instead of college students who liked posting dank memes and "look at this weird poo poo from other sites" threads.

Also something about people posting things in relevant subforums, except we have so many of those that there's not much left to post in GBS.

yeah, one of the problems is that there are too many subforums

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Hogge Wild posted:

yeah, one of the problems is that there are too many subforums

With all those subforums in mind, what does GBS do now that byob, A/T, E/N and the various impenetrable megathreads in the subject-specific subforums don't do?

Tom Brady
Oct 17, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

flakeloaf posted:

With all those subforums in mind, what does GBS do now that byob don't do?

has people in it, for one

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Haifisch posted:

It made people realize the forums were getting full of older people who liked discussing news, instead of college students who liked posting dank memes and "look at this weird poo poo from other sites" threads.

Also something about people posting things in relevant subforums, except we have so many of those that there's not much left to post in GBS.

Ehh idk I always liked discussing topical events even as a 15 year old. The memes are funny but they get old loving quick.

We maybe should have a forum for utter silliness and then GBS where we can talk about stuff more seriously. I know we have FYAD and BYOB but a) those subforums look like poo poo it's like ponies jizzed everywhere, and b) they are clique-y and insular as gently caress and people don't feel comfortable posting in there. D&D is the other extreme.

There definitely could be a cut back on subforums though I agree - especially in regards to GBS. It's like we have to remove any type of discussion and move it to its own subforum because 'GBS has to remain pure' but what are we left with other than stupid racist/tranny/doobie threads?

I like most of the subject specific subforums though, there's good info from people in the field and there's less stupid trolls all over the thread.

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Sep 17, 2015

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Crap
Nov 3, 2012

That Robot posted:

you're the one who floods threads with huge images and/or the entire texts of novels

its p dumb, man


no idea who you even are :shrug:

sorry, i should have elaborated, why are you telling people they live in a black and white world where only they are right while concurrently dismissing everything they say and living in your own black and white world where everything is fine because you like it

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