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We've all been there, that moment when browsing online classifieds you come across your white whale (or Dune Beige 416 in my case), and the asking price is slightly less than the entire contents of your bank account. You send a message to the seller, "for curiosity's sake," you tell yourself, inquiring as to if you could at least come by and eyefuck their ride, swearing to yourself "I'm just going to go check it out, not buy it." He's actually asking about twice as much as you've claimed you'd ever be willing to pay so you figure you're safe, you even make sure to leave your chequebook at home to steel yourself against a poor decision. Even your friends who share your love of <insert marque here> are cautioning you to be wary but you pay little heed to their advice, thinking it won't be needed. Then you see it in person, it's rusty, the engine runs a little rough but it drives straight and the gears all work, the interior looks like Norman Bates practiced on it, there's no way it'd pass a safety with those holes in the floorpan but the frame is solid, and it has a sick rattlecan paint job. You try to tear your eyes away, telling yourself "I could find better" and inform the seller that you want to give it a once over and a test drive. Let's be honest though, there's no denying it, you were in love from the first moment you saw her and heard the rumble of the engine; by this point it's already too late, the seller could probably double his price and you'll pay it without a second thought. He knows it, you know it, he wanders off so you can spend some time alone with her, you sit in what's left of the driver's seat, running your hand over the dash, the touch is electrifying (and not just because of shoddy wiring). You hem and you haw, trying to find any reason to justify not doing what you're about to do, but with each look any reason you find evapourates in favour of "I'll be fixing that" and you find yourself making a list of the things you are going to do to your diamond in the rough. When the seller returns, you barely even bother haggling, doing it solely to keep up appearances and convince yourself you got a deal because you didn't pay ask. Let's admit it, you didn't get a good deal and you would've paid the asking price and more, nothing was going to stop you from buying this vehicle, the world could be ending in 5 minutes and you are going to somehow get the title in your name first. Half an hour later the title is yours and your bank account is looking rather empty thanks to a conveniently close branch of your bank of choice but you've got just enough money left to rent a car dolly from u-haul to experience the most terrifying 2 hour drive of your life as your friend/family member with a truck tows it home for you and you realize you should've rented or borrowed a vehicle trailer because holy poo poo your overpriced investment is wobbling back and forth at 80km/h on a freeway and you think you just saw a strap come off. That was me 3 years ago, and this is my whale, a longbed FJ45 with a 3B diesel and H55 transmission (does that make it a BJ45 now?).  I'm not saying what I paid, you've been there too, or will be there one day, don't sweat it, life's too short to not own the things you love. I had dreams immediately when I bought her, dreams that reached some level of solidity before a bout of laziness, depression, and life got in the way, and she spent most of the last 3 years sitting in one of three different storage spaces, sitting next to a pile of parts meant to go on her. It seemed like I was destined to forever pretend I had a road legal truck while actually doing things like loading shittons of lumber into my 2005 Mazda 6 sedan. Then a few months ago my 10 year old beater went and did this on me:  I lamented the fact I've racked up over 60,000km since the engine was rebuilt, and that I was starting to get into "costly high-milage maintenance" territory with a vehicle I hate. So I made a vow, its next oil change will be its last with me, and if I see that odo hit 222,222km I will park it in a field and unload a box of shotgun slugs into the engine block no matter what. It's time that I replace my 10yo car with my 39yo truck. Along those lines (and a few threats as to who's field I'd be parking the Mazda in before shooting it) my father and I installed something in his shop that we'd been meaning to do for almost half as long as I've owned the cruiser.  The truck got moved to its current home, you might notice something missing.  That's because it's getting a new (3 years ago) Gozzard fiberglass tub, fenders, and roof.  Last Friday the seats got taken out and to a local upholstery place. They really needed it because I wasn't kidding about the Norman Bates thing.  On Sunday the original tub caught a bad case of cab flu and puked a bunch of parts over the course of several hours.  It also sneezed out the most important part of any truck with a fully mechanical diesel.  Poor girl was so sick that parts came off both sides of the firewall and her nose drat near fell off.    Over the next couple of weeks I'll be getting ready to and swapping in the new tub, replacing lights, and getting some broken glass fixed, the goal for now is to have her road legal by winter because I am not doing another Midwestern Ontario winter with a 2wd car. She's totally gonna look like poo poo for awhile after that's done, but eventually over the course of the next year I hope to do paint, repair the bed, and start getting her ready for wheeling. Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Sep 15, 2015 |
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OH HELL YES. please keep posting photos. I need to see this through. Fermented Tinal posted:
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Sep 15, 2015 12:12
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about buying awful fix-up cars online
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Sep 15, 2015 12:18
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Sep 15, 2015 13:06
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Fermented Tinal posted:We've all been there, that moment when browsing online classifieds you come across your white whale (or Dune Beige 416 in my case), and the asking price is slightly less than the entire contents of your bank account. You send a message to the seller, "for curiosity's sake," you tell yourself, inquiring as to if you could at least come by and eyefuck their ride, swearing to yourself "I'm just going to go check it out, not buy it." He's actually asking about twice as much as you've claimed you'd ever be willing to pay so you figure you're safe, you even make sure to leave your chequebook at home to steel yourself against a poor decision. Even your friends who share your love of <insert marque here> are cautioning you to be wary but you pay little heed to their advice, thinking it won't be needed. Nope. No idea what that's like. This thread's gonna be great.
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 Wow. I can't wait to see how it turns out. My mother forced my dad to sell his 82 FJ (grass green  ) when I was born, and I've been mad at her ever since.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Nope. No idea what that's like. I now know when I walk up to cars if I am buying them or not. I've managed to walk away from some, and others are like NOPE THIS IS MINE.
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Sep 15, 2015 14:45
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 I will be following this thread for sure.
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Sep 15, 2015 16:24
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They made an FJ45 with a truck bed? So this is how it ends.
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Sep 15, 2015 17:43
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unf Gonna be following this thread
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Sep 15, 2015 17:53
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Oh, man. i love those. One came through the classic car auction here in the spring, but i just flat out didn't fit in it.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:They made an FJ45 with a truck bed? Yup I saw one that looked nice the other day here.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:They made an FJ45 with a truck bed? 40/42/44: Basically SUVs of varying size/wheelbase. 45: Pickup truck, in swb or lwb, lwbs are a lot rarer and many have suffered humilation in the form of having their frames and beds hacked by some guy named Bob. 47: Troop carrier. Powershift posted:Oh, man. i love those. One came through the classic car auction here in the spring, but i just flat out didn't fit in it. I'm 6'3" and 230lbs, I fit just fine though it is a bit tight on legroom under the steering wheel. No more work done on it to report, but I did hear from the upholsterer yesterday and forgot to mention that the seats were stripped and getting the new burlap, felt, foam, soft felt today and that the new vinyl was supposed to have also arrived today, could be as soon as next week when I get them back. Purists will hate that I didn't go with the original charcoal grey that was Toyota's sole colour option for the seats in 1976; I decided instead to go with a high wear and extreme low temperature marine grade somewhat matte black, which matches the replacement door panels and dash cover. If they turn out half as good as I'm expecting I'll probably get the same place to make a headliner and reskin the sun visors. And no, before anyone asks, as awesome as the current paint job truly is I'm going to go back to the original solid Dune Beige when I do get around to painting it, which will likely be next Spring or Summer. For the Winter it is going to sport fiberglass white and the current paint on the parts not being replaced as my sole goal atm is road legality, not looks. As for more pictures, ask and ye shall receive. Safe in the driveway at my parents' old house after the earlier-mentioned 2 hours of towing terror on the day I got her. You can see the main area of body rot in this picture, and originally I was going to tow her to a body shop and have them just fix it but then I realized that all the replacement steel in the world won't combat the harsh road conditions that are Canadian Winters and let myself get talked into a fiberglass replacement tub. I'm gonna have enough fun chasing rust every year on the frame, not having to worry about the body is worth it to me because I'm neither a purist nor do I care about resale value.  Spartan, yet elegant interior, 3 years before being ripped apart.  Is that a factory t-case drum parking brake? Why yes, yes it is.  Some coins I found in the dash when doing a partial disassembly 3 years ago to take the portions of the cab I'm not replacing to Gozzard Composites so they could assemble the new cab and get the new doors (did I mention it's getting new doors too?) aligned.  These two still haven't worked out who gets to ride shotgun and who has to take the middle seat. 
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Sep 16, 2015 00:52
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Ive seen one of these (well a HJ45) that the owner had ripped out the 2H diesel and dropped in the 162hp 1HD-T 4.2L turbo diesel into. It loving FLEW. Although my neighbour owned a FJ47 with a chev 454 in it a few years back now before terminal rust and torque combined in fun and unusual ways.
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I would love to do what your friend did or import a 1KD-FTV to swap in if the 3B ever dies, but I love my rough-starting fully mechanical slug that needs no stinkin' electricity and will probably beg Crushers to turbo it one day and then run it into the ground.
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Fermented Tinal posted:I'm 6'3" and 230lbs, I fit just fine though it is a bit tight on legroom under the steering wheel. yeah, i'm 6'9, 300lbs. my femur didn't fit between the seat and the dash. Here is the truck http://www.theelectricgarage.com/auctions/vehicle_details.php?auction_id=40&id=3811 it was in beautiful shape, which is surprising, because normally toyotas of this vintage in alberta are basically powdered iron oxide. It didn't go for a whole lot either.
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I have an unrepentant boner right now even though the year is all wrong (76 or earlier, fuel tanks belong inside the cab goddamnit), diamonds wish they were as hard as my cock is for a beautiful *J45. Also lol at the broken fender badge that is missing Toyota, mine are broken the exact same way, but I have replacement ones.  Mine spent its earlier years as a bush truck in Saskachewan and Manitoba. It still has a Manitoba volunteer fire rescue sticker on the round rear corner window on the driver's side. This is probably why the frame isn't rotten and the cab rot is actually so minor it does feel blasphemous that I've gone and cut it all apart and decided to replace it. E: I like how the info page says the VIN is unspecified, but it's right there on the picture of the fender plate, 269926. Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Sep 17, 2015 |
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Just got back from the upholsterer's after deciding to stop in and see what kind of progress was being made with the seats. Turns out the guy working on them was putting the last few screws in on the backs and getting ready to do a few final tweaks to make them look their best. Compared to what I had before they might as well be perfect, the guy was even kind enough to mark out (but not cut) the locations for the headrest mounting holes for when I finally manage to track down a set and gave me some tips on how to cut the vinyl without wrecking it for when I do. I can see myself giving them a lot more business in the future and would highly recommend Georgian Bay Upholstery to anyone in the Grey-Bruce region of Ontario. He'd mentioned that when replacing the card backs he was unable to get paint to adhear to the cards so he used some vinyl of his from another project to cover them instead, it isn't the exact same but we both agree it turned out great.   You can scroll back up to the OP for a look at the before, or could you just look below. Fermented Tinal posted:Last Friday the seats got taken out and to a local upholstery place. They really needed it because I wasn't kidding about the Norman Bates thing. More seat porn.   It's raining today so I'll be picking them up on Monday.
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Powershift posted:yeah, i'm 6'9, 300lbs. my femur didn't fit between the seat and the dash. Holy poo poo, what did that go for?
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Sep 19, 2015 01:21
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A song, probably, they're pretty rare but very niche.
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Yeah it went for like $7000 which is nuts for a daily driveable classic in that shape, even if it is a toyota.
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Powershift posted:Yeah it went for like $7000 which is nuts for a daily driveable classic in that shape, even if it is a toyota. I wish I'd paid that for mine.
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Spent a few hours today getting the rest of the poo poo off the tub. Considering how long I put off doing this for I am mildly unamused at how little time it took to actually strip the cab. Pedal assemblies came off with varying states of ease, though I did come across something kinda strange.  I think that ball post there is where the throttle cable is supposed to actually hook on, but instead we have this.  That's some seriously professional work done by the legendary Land Cruiser mechanic known as Dave Versteegh, the engine swap and mechanical work was totally worth the over $16,500 he charged the previous owner. Zip ties, lovely welds, self-tapping screws through the body, you name it, this guy did it. Here's a random rusty thing from the firewall that wasn't connected to anything and I have yet to identify.  Fenders and hood skirts came off to the tune of all but 3 bolts breaking, I have my doubts they ever came off since the truck was assembled at the factory.  The only thing holding the tub on right now is gravity and two rust-welded body mount bolts. The body mount bushings and hardware are not salvageable, and I'm seriously hoping I don't have to buy a full kit from the States just to replace the 4 holding the tub. Hoping my local stealership can still get them in but I have my doubts.  There's two connectors on the transmission, both are 3 pin, one comes from in front of the shifter and one comes from somewhere around the transfer case, neither were connected and I suspect one is for the reverse lights but I honestly don't know. They're the white thing between the shifters and the purple thing hanging behind the t-case in the picture. And last but not least, today's parts haul, minus the body parts and fuel tank. Taking off the fuel tank was a lot of fun because the muffler actually blocks the hole in the tub to access the drain plug and the tank was basically full.  Tomorrow: Operation Tub Lift, probably going to cut it in half to ease removal. Please ready your preferred poisons in homage to its decades of service.
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Random rusty thing looks like a voltage regulator.
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This is awesome. I love old trucks. I actually learned to drive stick in a '63 FJ45. Looking to see how it turns out.
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follow the gearbox wiring back, the one on the gearbox itself will be your reverse switch, the one on the transfer case will be your 4wd indicator lamp. I think they are normally open closed to trigger too from memory when I did my hilux build.
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I have been giving serious consideration to doing this sort of thing with a Series I or a Series IIA Land rover. Following with great interest.
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Gentlemen, I give you the latest in automotive innovation, the cabless pickup truck. Ended up not cutting it in half because it actually wasn't nearly as heavy as I thought it was, not pictured is the 10-20lbs of dirt and rust that fell off as soon as it got flipped on its side.  Surprisingly easy to push it around now, so it went outside for a pressure washin'.  You see that rusty thing where the transmission should be? That nice flat area under the shifter between the fill plug and the bellhousing shed a 1/8" thick sheet of rust. It held up to 2000psi pressure washing but makes a distressingly non-solid sound when I tap on it. I'm wondering how worried I should be and if I'm soon to be in the market for another H55F transmission. I'm going to DOM-16 (an expensive alternative to POR-15) it but I am seriously worried that it's getting ready to become a large hole. Found some frame rot in the usual place, right where the frame curves up between the cab and the bed, nothing I can really do about it for now, but I figure rust protecting will keep the cancer from progressing significantly before I get my other truck road worthy in the next year or two and can strip this one to the frame for patching and maybe powder coating. I don't know who at Toyota thought it would be a good idea to put so many holes in the frame without actually making sure that water can drain out of it but I suspect that the decision was made so long ago that maybe karma caught up with the chucklefuck who did and he's dead now.   I got a better look at the exhaust, my only thought is "Why?"  I'm seriously starting to think the previous owner got taken for a $16,657.33 ride, so I've included a fully itemized list of all the work done by a certain London, Ontario mechanic. I've made some comments in parenthesis about some of it. It is more or less me typing out the several bills the previous owner gave me in a folder containing everything about the truck. quote:Safety Inspection: $80 (it didn't pass, or at least shouldn't have) Previous owner bought her for $4800 before all of the above was done. Without taking the cost of freight from out West (he had it shipped to Ontario) or the donor BJ70 into account he blew over $20k on her. Go back to the first post, look at the picture of the day I bought her, and think about that for awhile. Anywho, back to the build. Started test-fitting things into the new cab before I start drilling holes and found something that might turn into a huge setback, the following pictures will tell the story. The seats seem to be sitting awfully far forward.  Okay, well, maybe I'm just stupid, let's try it with the transmission tunnel in place.  Oh, that doesn't seem right at all, well, maybe I need to try it with the fuel tank.  Can you spot the problem? New:  Old:  And last but not least, here's some  for my fellow 40-series owners: I have literally no idea how to fix this without chopping the seat brackets and going with some kind of outside-of-cab fuel tank, which goes completely against one of the major reasons I wanted a 45 from this particular era. After calling the guy who made the tub he wants me to email him detailed photographs so that is what I'm doing after making this post and I am seriously hoping the Toyota gods smile down upon me and we get this corrected. Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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 Toyota Gods Smiled Upon Me. Mike Gozzard, who made the fiberglass tub for me is going to fix it for me after reviewing several photographs detailing the fitment issues I'm having. I was legit worried I was going to be told to pound salt but he is a man who stands by his word that the product he sold me would work and is willing to make sure it does, 3 years after I bought it. He even said he could have it fixed within a few days which doesn't significantly impact my build schedule. My hope in humanity has been restored a little bit today and once again I see the light at the end of the tunnel with regards to this truck. Let this be a glowing review of http://gozzardcomposites.com/ and the integrity of the man who runs it. Okay, onto what I did manage to do today. Northern trees bear a strange fruit, paint on the leaves and oil at the root...  Primed and painted the mounting brackets for the coolant (left) and washer fluid (right) reservoirs. Started the Dom-16 treatment on the frame and transmission housing, gonna have to get it up on the lift to do the underside and then figure out how in the heck I'm gonna do inside the frame rails. I know a lot of cruiser owners are big into going frame-off, sandblasting, boxing, and powder-coating but that's going to have to wait because my car develops a new squeak, rattle, or clunk every day and with the tub getting fixed I need to use that time to do what I can to protect what I have and get her on the road before my beater finally sends itself to the big wrecker in the sky.   Also cleaned up the fender mounting brackets with a needle scaler, followed by more Dom-16.  Left is after needle scaling, right is before. The right (passenger side) one also had a lot of undercoating on it with pristine body paint underneath, the scaler didn't take off much of the paint but I'm hoping the fact it significantly roughened the surface will at least help with bonding. These are either going to get tremclad (rustoleum) or bed liner on top of the rust treatment because just like Por-15 it is UV sensitive and they do see some sunlight. Post first coat of rust treatment.  After that it was time to load up the tub in a trailer to get ready to take it to Mike in the morning. This was legitimately one of the scariest moments of my life because oh my god half of my baby is sitting on the forks of a fuckoff huge tractor and it sits kinda lopsided because of the fuel tank drop in the tub floor.  It is a little reminiscent of the redneck rollercoaster if you guys remember that. It's tight, but she fits in the covered trailer.  Bonus picture of the custom vehicle dolly my father made to move around my 1988 Toyota Pickup which is currently sans wheels. It is also currently sans the dolly because that's what the fiberglass tub's been sitting on for the past few weeks. It works surprisingly well. 
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Fermented Tinal posted:I'm seriously starting to think the previous owner got taken for a $16,657.33 ride, so I've included a fully itemized list of all the work done by a certain London, Ontario mechanic. I've made some comments in parenthesis about some of it. It is more or less me typing out the several bills the previous owner gave me in a folder containing everything about the truck. Calling it, Marc Sinclair Neighbourhood Auto on Wonderland Road.
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8ender posted:Calling it, Marc Sinclair Neighbourhood Auto on Wonderland Road. NAPA Auto Pro in Thorndale.
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Fermented Tinal posted:NAPA Auto Pro in Thorndale. I have no experience with that shop but they're on my list now. Also why in the world would you bring such an old and odd vehicle to a place like that.
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8ender posted:I have no experience with that shop but they're on my list now. Also why in the world would you bring such an old and odd vehicle to a place like that. The guy who runs it is a well-known land cruiser mechanic and there's a split in the community over whether or not he does good work. I know people who wouldn't trust anyone else to touch their ride and people who would never trust him to touch their ride. It seems to follow the same lines as to whether or not it's a good idea to turbo your 3B because most of the ones he's put a turbo on have blown and thus people who love him think 3Bs shouldn't be turbo'd whereas people who have a different well-known cruiser mechanic (Crushers) turbo their 3B haven't had problems. I've never dealt with him directly, but I do live near Crushers and have seen the work done by both. Based upon the hack job of a swap that my truck has I'm more inclined to be in the group that doesn't like him. E: Not much to report progress-wise atm. Won't be getting the tub back until next week at the earliest and I'm back on at work so for now enjoy this: Turns out that despite the fact my local Toyota dealership can't get most of the non-NLA parts in for less than half the price at an American dealership, they were able to get these in for less than what I'd pay given the exchange rate with the US and shipping from sor or ccots.  It's hilarious that the pedal pads are one of the few non-NLA things left. After drilling out most of the spot welds for various mounting brackets with relative ease with a normal drillbit I came across several that burned through bits while laughing at me. Who's gonna have the last laugh now?  Ordered a set of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/160944710431 I really only needed lenses but it was cheaper to just get complete units. Upon discovering that NOS marker lights were gonna run me twice what the tails cost, I cheaped out: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291553981143 Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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Oh god your brake light assemblies are cheaper than the lenses alone for my bus. WTF
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Geirskogul posted:Oh god your brake light assemblies are cheaper than the lenses alone for my bus. WTF I lucked out, they're usually like $100 each.
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homebrew posted:I have been giving serious consideration to doing this sort of thing with a Series I or a Series IIA Land rover. Following with great interest. There are a fair few of us on here with Landies if you need any info on them. What country are you in?
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InitialDave posted:Series I prices are heading north quite rapidly, I'd recommend a II, IIA or III as the better option unless you really want the SI. Down under. I have a mate of mine with a I and a pair of IIA's (a swb and lwb) that he would be prepared to part with. Unfortunately I need a concrete floor in my shed before I'd be prepared to look at this sort of project.
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homebrew posted:Down under. They are very simple to work on, though.
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In between shift blocks at work so I did some truck stuff today. Right as I was leaving for the shop this showed up at my door.  It's a full kit for a 4runner but I really only need 4 of the 10 sets since I have to make all new mounts for the new cab and can't re-use the original style mounts. At least I'll have spares, but not enough for the bed, no, that'll be another kit. I know the box shows red bushings but I bought black ones because they were $0.50 less on amazon. Today's parts haul from the cab, aside from a few random brackets that I may or may not need the old tub is essentially fully stripped. Essentially it's the rest of the heating/cooling parts for the interior. That plate is where the blower motor mounts and it was both glued and spot-welded, and very rusty wherever there wasn't glue on the backside. Vents are for the defrosters and the square thing is where the blower motor mates to the tub vent ribs on the passenger side. The T-shaped things are for the hood hinges. That spot-weld cutter I posted earlier made short work of all of the spot welds once I figured out that I needed to drill a small pilot divot to keep it centred on the welds.  39 years and 4 months young.  After talking to the Ministry of Transport (our DMV), I was informed that the vin plate must remain with the vehicle, or in this case, the chassis. I took video of it coming off but this is one of several pictures that I'll be keeping in the glove box. Next picture in the set will be when it gets rivetted to the new tub. I laughed when I realized that the vehicle type is MPV, apparently she's actually a minivan, who knew! This here is some 40-series land cruiser gold, especially for a country where road salt is a fact of life 6 months of the year. This is the only 40-series I've seen in person that still has this visible.  The dark black is the DOM-16 I've painted on, the light black is some of the $40 worth of paint the mechanic put on, it's really held up well hasn't it? Truck is now catching some air, if the frame was any narrower I wouldn't be able to use the lift. Need to either fix a couple of screw jacks in the barn or get some new ones before raising it any higher.  Stay tuned for more tomorrow or something I guess. Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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