Covok posted:

So, they confirmed 100% that the arcosian in the tournament is Universe 6 Freeza. Toriyama must really like Freeza as a villain to have him come back twice.

Kild posted:

Vegeta is his new ally in the Freiza saga.

facebook jihad posted:

I personally would like it if TFS starts making 'Goku is a good dad' jokes from here on out to swerve fans and move away from the 'Goku is a bad dad' joke that has been done to death.

The episode was really good and a return to form for a series that has been slumping in the most recent episodes.

Covok posted:

Is the animation in DBS really that bad? I heard the animation in OP has also gotten bad in recent years. I kind of didn't feel like watching a re-tread of the movies.

Some Numbers posted:

It might actually be as simple as "this is a series so it gets X yen, this is a group of OVAs so it gets Z yen."

Blaze Dragon posted:

I have this really weird feeling that the people behind Multiverse really dislike Beerus.

Webbeh posted:

This isn't true and you loving know it.

jivjov posted:

Is it really a "dub" when it's the original recording in language of origin?

Also; I am unaware of any "awful" Japanese language track on Super.

CharlestheHammer posted:

Super hasn't even completed one arc if you take out the movies, so it's a little early to judge which is has higher highs.

Namtab posted:

Goku is a horrible monster who believes in his son and recognises that his son is better than him and just needs self confidence.


What a oval office.

Twiddy posted:

I mean that isn't really a retcon (unless that wasn't in the manga, I don't actually remember). That's just what happened.

Let's not get overzealous in pointing out Goku's flaws.

tsob posted:

Maybe I'm just really, really hopeful since Gohan is one of my favorite characters but that almost seems too convenient and more just a way of setting something up to have Gohan appear in a surprise twist later. No idea what kind of twist, perhaps one of the fighters gets injured and cannot participate or something and Whis brought Gohan there before hand or something. I want to believe. I know I'm being foolish and it's really just that Toriyama stopped caring about him a long time ago but gently caress it, I'm going to hold on to that little flicker of hope as long as I can

Reinanigans posted:

Nope. As of Dragon Ball Minus, he was born in age 734, instead of 737, so he'd be about 15 when he meets Bulma (making her bathing him super weird since she was just a year older.)

Goku and Chichi get married on May 8, age 756. So 21-22 is actually more accurate for Goku's age at that point.

Gohan is born in 757, Raditz arrives in 761, making Gohan 4 and making Goku 26-27 at the start of Z.

My ages were off before, but this should clear up this very important matter.

Baal posted:

He taught me that I could become one with another man with heavy breathing and complex movements

alcharagia posted:

ImpAtom posted:

Relying on sloppy superpower seconds is a time-honored Dragonball tradition. Goku's iconic moves are all something someone else came up with.

setafd posted:

how many years after the spirit bomb's first inclusion in the comic did it finally get a kill on buu

Manatee Cannon posted:

the spirit bomb doesn't bring anyone back to life, what are you talking about

like I don't understand how you even came to this conclusion, but it's wrong

Manatee Cannon posted:

yea bulma is useful from the very beginning of dragon ball and stays so for pretty much the duration of the series, but she's not a fighter

18 was the first girl that can fight since, what, chichi's one fight in the third tournament? she's probably stronger than any of the non saiyans but piccolo and she still doesn't get to fight after beating the poo poo out of vegeta that one time. tho really I'd put that down more to "is not a saiyan" than "is a girl" since the power creep has always left everyone but goku, vegeta, and their kids in the dust

Raxivace posted:

I do think Toei deserves a bit more credit for some of their "filler" in the Dragon Ball franchise, beyond stuff like the driving episode of DBZ or whatever.

For example, Goku struggling to turn Super Saiyan for the first time? Probably the most iconic thing in the franchise? Most of that scene is technically "filler". In the manga it takes Goku about two panels to transform, and is kind of lame and anticlimactic as a result.

Shindragon posted:

I tend to forget about that when TFS completely just cut all that. I really like how they edit the transformations.

Wonder if they will keep the 5 minute SSJ3 though

Spiritus Nox posted:

So, for lack of a better place to talk Team Four Star Miscelleny, I decided to binge watch FF7 abridged while working from home today. It's...alright, got room to grow. I'm mostly struck by the fact that I can't decide how I feel about the fact that they're playing Tifa as a slut.

Baal posted:

I mean the reason DBZ abridged works is because the characters are basically just more exaggerated versions of themselves, even down to the voices. That just sort of sounds like changing a character entirely for... Idk, it sounds kind of comically bereft I guess.

Baal posted:

This sounds awful

ImpAtom posted:

Everything I've heard about FF7A is that it lacks the respect for the source material that DBZA has and that really works against it.

Spiritus Nox posted:

See, she said "No, Cloud, I was going to gently caress him" or something like that in a tone that made it hard to tell how sarcastic she was being, particularly since she followed it up with something like "He'll say anything once his pants are down and my hands are around his -" and then the episode moved on pretty fast, and then later she's clearly open to the idea of being made to 'breed' with Cloud. Like I said, some of the jokes could be read as "Ha! Tifa likes sex/the idea of sex!"

ImpAtom posted:

Yeah, this basically doesn't remotely resemble the original character in any way, which is exactly what I meant. It looks like they went with the joke "she wears a lovely outfit" instead of "this is the character's personality."

Like the "Gohan is very angry and has father issues" thing is an exaggeration but it naturally builds off an element of the character ("Gohan has anger issues" and "Gohan's dad is gone a lot") while Tifa is literally the pure childhood friend from the country town in contrast to Aerith's street-smart playful city girl. If you wanted to do that style of joke it would make more sense with Aerith who literally does those things in the game instead.

Chickenfrogman posted:

Tifa in FF7 abridged rules. She's got solid dialogue and a really good VA, plus there's a pretty solid interpretation of the character that's still true to the original (and amusingly more true to the version of FF7 most people have in their heads from nostalgia then what the actual character was). Also, there hasn't been a single joke about Tifa being 'a slut'. There's been jokes about how she does want to hook up with Cloud, but can't express it. Which is from the original game, just amped up here.

Early FF7 abridged was pretty terrible, but the last few episodes have been quite solid and it's got a good foundation going into the second season.

Baal posted:

Ugh, fiiiiiine

RickVoid posted:

I'm sure this has been posted before, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJU5DKdM6s

Still better than Dragonball Evolution.