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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Thomas is still gay and Edith will die alone.

Season 6 starts airing today. Americans get it in January 2016.

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Sep 21, 2015

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Obligatory post that these are the same person



shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


She could poison my kedgeree any day.

Jenny McBlackmail is possibly the worst yet incarnation of the spectre of looming class mobility and currency decimalisation. I never thought I'd miss that big mouthed teacher in that role, at least she didn't menacingly float around like a hound of the baskervilles.

Still, I'm hopeful for a good last season.

Betting now that King George visits the house in the final Christmas finale. And connives to burn a stack of salacious letters he wrote to Mr. Barrow after a spot of madness in the summer season.

shadow puppet of a fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Sep 21, 2015

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
The writing is on the wall, no one gives a gently caress about the show anymore. "Choosing" to end it is really just accepting that death is inevitable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...h-audience.html

quote:

Downton Abbey has scored its worst ratings for an opening episode since it came to our screens five years ago.

According to The Guardian, the opening episode received an average 7.6 million viewers – almost one million fewer than last year’s premiere.

The sixth and final debut aired on Sunday at 9pm, but despite little competition from rival channels the series had a 36% share of the audience.

Shockingly, those numbers would be batshit insane great for the US TV networks. I can't tell if the UK just has better shows or literally nothing else to offer.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


pentyne posted:


Shockingly, those numbers would be batshit insane great for the US TV networks. I can't tell if the UK just has better shows or literally nothing else to offer.

Fewer channels, at first.

The only good thing was Carson doing a massive Sam the Eagle when discussing his sexlife. Also Maggie Smith continues to :iceburn:

The rest is utterly forgettable tosh.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Downtown Abbey? Is it going to go a bit more urban and 'street'?

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


feedmegin posted:

Downtown Abbey? Is it going to go a bit more urban and 'street'?

In this season, the dead golden retriever has been retrieved by a ferret.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
All I want to know is
if Mary went upstairs to take off her hat

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Let that please be the end of the Mr. Drew saga as he plays the insufferably noble audience-insert gruffly-apologizing-for making-a-spill-while-bleeding-to-death Yorkshireman.

Second place pigs probably commanded a huge price premium in Interwar England, seen as how the lords could and would put forward anything on hooves and still collect the best in show ribbon.

Lady Mary's pig looked like hot garbage. There, I said it.

What is going on with the Mr. Barrow plot? they are back to leaning hard on the gay aspect, not giving him a single scene where he is not being tread upon for not fitting in. Are they going to suicide him off as a way to insert a social message that is not "look at how benevolent rich people were"

I'd be happy for the Bateses to become background characters but it looks like Sarah is going to die in hospital p. soon so that Cousin Violet can have cause to streamline her fundraising. Or maybe just nearly die as Dr. Clarkson recalls some old Scotch remedy of dousing the lazy cervix in old scotch that saves the day and gives the Dowager smug reason to keep the local hospital firmly in the Georgian era.

I hope they invite the other half of The Cheerful Charlies, Grigg, to the wedding.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
I just do not care about Anna and Mr Bates and their ongoing cavalcade of tragedy

Onomarchus
Jun 4, 2005

shadow puppet of a posted:

Lady Mary's pig looked like hot garbage. There, I said it.

Please don't talk that way about Golden Empress.

Nude Bog Lurker
Jan 2, 2007
Fun Shoe

angerbeet posted:

I just do not care about Anna and Mr Bates and their ongoing cavalcade of tragedy

I'll laugh so hard if Anna's surgical adventures somehow segue into the asinine hospital sideplot.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


The only way you can possibly tolerate the hospital sideplot is for Maggie Smith laying down the :iceburn:

Aardark
Aug 5, 2004

by Lowtax

pentyne posted:

Obligatory post that these are the same person




Whoa! Her lip and hair color is different.

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.

Nude Bog Lurker posted:

I'll laugh so hard if Anna's surgical adventures somehow segue into the asinine hospital sideplot.

Oh my god, that's what's going to happen, isn't? She's going to have complications with a pregnancy and it will force the hospital to modernize.

:sigh:

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Nothing happens on this show with any stakes.... I don't know why it took me so long to realize that.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


mcmagic posted:

Nothing happens on this show with any stakes.... I don't know why it took me so long to realize that.

The only one was the whole entail business which is why we had Cousin Carcrash.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
I completely lost any interest I had in the show after they killed Cousin Matthew. It was like "Oh hey, it really is just a high-production soap opera" and nobody ever changes or learns lessons.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

How are u posted:

I completely lost any interest I had in the show after they killed Cousin Matthew. It was like "Oh hey, it really is just a high-production soap opera" and nobody ever changes or learns lessons.

It is SO high production though... Is this was soap operas are like though? It's not even that it's melodramatic... Just nothing of substance every happens...

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
We get Young and the Restless on in the background at work as some of the ladies like it, and it's not that nothing happens, it's that nothing ever has any consequences. It's been running since 1973 though, so have a slice of PLOT that makes Downton look like high theatre.

quote:

Diane (Maura West), who had returned to Genoa City, reconnects with Victor and they remarry, however, it is annulled shortly after she finds him sleeping with Nikki and Victor learns of her affair with Tucker McCall (Stephen Nichols) and Jack. Afterward, Victor sends Nikki to a rehabilitation center for her alcoholism. Diane is murdered in August 2011, with Victor as a suspect. Nikki in fact murdered Diane in self-defense, causing Victor to falsely confess to murdering her to protect Nikki. While in jail, Victor marries his former daughter-in-law, Sharon Newman (Sharon Case), to push Nikki away, however when the entire murder plot is revealed, Nikki is not charged and Victor is freed. Victor and Sharon’s marriage is annulled and he reunites with Nikki, however, she leaves him when some of his past schemes involving Victoria’s marriage are exposed. To gain control of the cosmetics line Beauty of Nature, Victor slept with Genevieve Atkinson (Genie Francis). When Nikki reunites with Jack, Victor develops a genuine romance with Sharon to spite her. They marry a second time, however he disappears from town shortly after and Sharon believed he was abandoning her. She burned their prenuptial agreement and took over Newman Enterprises, while Jack and Tucker were buying up its stocks. While away, Victor had lost his memory and was working as a dock worker in Los Angeles; he was demanding better working conditions and the other workers planned to have him killed in an explosion, as a result, Genoa City believed Victor had died, but he returned shortly after. Upon his return, he annuls his marriage to Sharon and reunites with Nikki, just before Jack announces he is taking over Newman Enterprises, firing all of the Newman family and instating Adam. However, due to his addiction to pain killers, Jack gave up control of the company, leaving it to Adam.

That's like a fifth of that character's (Victor) backstory. It's insane. There are whole magazines devoted to following the story, the character relationships, the actors, etc.

There's all of this "YOU poisoned the face cream!" "NO YOU poisoned the face cream!" "NO IT WAS ME I POISONED THE FACE CREAM" "But Aunt Martha, you're..." "DEAD? No, thanks to this face cream" carrying on and the occasional straight up product placement (product placement being a part of the nature of Soap operas - selling soap) where characters will just break character and talk about the benefits of frozen stirfry vegetables.

Downton Abbey is absolutely a soap opera, it's just a slightly classier one.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
Although, if we were going to take anything from classic soaps, I'd hope it'd be some of the catfights from Dynasty because holy moly the idea of Lady Mary just losing her poo poo on that hotel chambermaid is entertaining to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78AOhXddoE8

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Prediction: Spratt and Denka finally gently caress in tomorrow's ep. Then in their passion frenzy they kill and eat the Bates' and wear their skins to try and get on as replacements in the big house. The downstairs staff sniff them out and chase them down a mineshaft in the Yorkshire hills. Lord Grantham asks Carson the next morning what all the hubub and din was about last night and Carson replies that it 'was only a spot of bother, m'Lord' and never speaks of it again so as not to disturb his lordship.

And nobody ever misses Bates or missus Bates.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

How are u posted:

I completely lost any interest I had in the show after they killed Cousin Matthew. It was like "Oh hey, it really is just a high-production soap opera" and nobody ever changes or learns lessons.

For me it was when Sybil died. The only "progressive" character dying and then her husband forgetting that he was supposed to be an Irish Republican and becoming totally co-opted into the aristocratic life was proof that nothing truly interesting would ever happen, so welp.

Oh and here's what Guillermo del Toro had to say when talking about his upcoming movie Crimson Peak:

quote:

Does the rotting house have anything to do with the way that people of that period, that whole aristocracy fell apart?

DEL TORO: Yes. This is not Downton Abbey. This is … I don’t like what I call “class porn,” where everybody’s all gooey over, “If only the aristocracy was still in charge, life would be so civilized.” gently caress that. It’s not true. It was never true. And this is the opposite.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
Let's not kid ourselves. The show lost its best characters because the actors saw the derailment from a mile away.

"Let's bring out the gramophone! It's not seen use since Poochie died on the way back to his home planet!"

spronk
Feb 5, 2011

Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
Everyone's coming back!

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Tom went to America for 14 months and got fat. They really do strive for accuracy.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
We were wrong to stop the Germans

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.
:neckbeard: YAY TOM!





:shlick:


Also, the wedding was really adorable and fuckin nothin better happen to Carson and Mrs. Carson.

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."
My wife got mad at me when Tom came back. I've been saying that Mary and Tom are going to end up together since Matthew died.

Nude Bog Lurker
Jan 2, 2007
Fun Shoe

Mouse Dresser posted:

:neckbeard: YAY TOM!





:shlick:


Also, the wedding was really adorable and fuckin nothin better happen to Carson and Mrs. Carson.

Unlikely, since Elsie straight-up murdered Mr Green.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

If I pretended this show ended at Season 3 (The real season 3 ending that was happy and they were playing cricket or whatever and matthew wasn't inexplicably dead) did I miss anything

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I liked it at the end of the episode where Carson and Mrs. Hughes just looked at each other like "well that's our special day completely undermined and forgotten about then".

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

Dead Goon posted:

I liked it at the end of the episode where Carson and Mrs. Hughes just looked at each other like "well that's our special day completely undermined and forgotten about then".

:agreed:

This season is every possible kind of terribad so far and I love it.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Dead Goon posted:

I liked it at the end of the episode where Carson and Mrs. Hughes just looked at each other like "well that's our special day completely undermined and forgotten about then".

Yeah.

"Oh Tom! You're back, and just in time to upstage the wedding!"

Onomarchus
Jun 4, 2005

Good, now Tom Branson can marry Lady Mary. I think I've said this before, but this idea needs to happen not because it is good but precisely because it is so bad.

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

Onomarchus posted:

Good, now Tom Branson can marry Lady Mary. I think I've said this before, but this idea needs to happen not because it is good but precisely because it is so bad.

Having the Earl of Grantham's former chauffeur marry not one, but two of his daughters is the conclusion this show needs. The only thing that could possibly make it better is if we find out Tom is Marigold's true father.

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.
I really hope that the show ends without Edith finding a good gentleman to marry.

I want this new guy to have a ring in his pocket, ready to propose to Edith, and then he steps off the curb and is run over. I hope that he takes over the magazine and steals it from her, asking her to sign a marriage license when it's actually the ownership papers. I hope that Marigold starts calling Lady Mary "Mummy."

I don't dislike Edith, but if she gets this ending all wrapped up in a Suffragette bow, complete with Mr. Wonderful, then I think that the show has really pandered.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

Mouse Dresser posted:

I really hope that the show ends without Edith finding a good gentleman to marry.

I want this new guy to have a ring in his pocket, ready to propose to Edith, and then he steps off the curb and is run over. I hope that he takes over the magazine and steals it from her, asking her to sign a marriage license when it's actually the ownership papers. I hope that Marigold starts calling Lady Mary "Mummy."

I don't dislike Edith, but if she gets this ending all wrapped up in a Suffragette bow, complete with Mr. Wonderful, then I think that the show has really pandered.

And the driver of the car? HITLER! In a flashback it will be revealed that at some point Edith came across Hitler when he was out painting laughed and called the painting terrible. Ever since that day Hitler has made it his lifes work to destroy Ediths happiness. He was expecting to have more work to do, but Edith is such a sad sack he had to go and get a second job. We all know how that turned out.


Someone needs to kidnap Daisy throw her in a car and drive her out in the middle of nowhere and leave her there. She's not smart enough to ever find her way back.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



DurosKlav posted:

Someone needs to kidnap Daisy throw her in a car and drive her out in the middle of nowhere and leave her there. She's not smart enough to ever find her way back.

You leave Daisy alone she's lovely I'll fight you!

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Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.

DurosKlav posted:




Someone needs to kidnap Daisy throw her in a car and drive her out in the middle of nowhere and leave her there. She's not smart enough to ever find her way back.

Daisy goes to Oxford and becomes a scientist and discovers penicillin. She then goes to Cambridge and becomes Prime Minister.

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