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Fenrir posted:
I'm gonna put this out there, but several QBs last year alone had good games against the Rams
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Fenrir posted:23/27 with over 200 yards and no picks is no bullshit. He would have had multiple picks were they not totally airmailed drops dude.
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Sep 26, 2015 02:32
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I'd take McCoy over Cousins.
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Sep 26, 2015 02:34
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Also that is the definition of a dink and dunk statline. 200 yards off of 27 attempts ain't good.
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Sep 26, 2015 02:35
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The only qb that I wouldn't take over Cousins is Brandon loving Weeden
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Sep 26, 2015 02:35
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Don't worry Redskins, there's always Connor Cook! Speaking of Connor Cook, how good was Cousins's line when at MSU? I know Cook's is really good. I remember that game against Wisconsin Cousins looked really good
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Sep 26, 2015 02:37
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TubeStank posted:Also that is the definition of a dink and dunk statline. 200 yards off of 27 attempts ain't good.  NITPICK ALERT7.4 YPA is pretty okay. As you mentioned before, though, his statline doesn't reflect the dropped INTs and the Rams are still the Rams until further notice
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Sep 26, 2015 02:46
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Cousins is trash. He has no pocket awareness and awful footwork. Combine that with an inability to throw on the run and suspect composure, I'm not even certain he's an average NFL backup. He doesn't even pass the eye test and even Phil Simms, noted bad QB apologist, called him flat out bad. The guy will straight up lose you games unless your run game is so strong that you can consistently churn out 4.5 YPC or better against 8 in the box.
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Sep 26, 2015 02:48
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Grittybeard posted:My god Leaf was amazingly bad. He doesn't make Jamarcus look good but there's really no argument about who was worse. Off topic, but is there anyone that flamed out as quickly and profoundly as Ryan Leaf? I was watching some old ESPN broadcasts the other day and they were debating the merits of Leaf and Manning before the draft and 
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Sep 26, 2015 02:51
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you know who's good? pretty good? that's right folks it's Andy Dalton.
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Sep 26, 2015 02:51
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Cavauro posted:you know who's good? pretty good? that's right folks it's Andy Dalton. I agree he is good and not bad.
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Sep 26, 2015 02:57
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Cavauro posted:you know who's good? pretty good? that's right folks it's Andy Dalton. Would you say he's ELITE?
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Sep 26, 2015 02:58
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It just hit me how relieved I am that this conversation isn't about Christian Ponder.
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Sep 26, 2015 03:26
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Its pretty funny that cousins is able to spark as much of a controversy after one week of being bad. How many weeks of eli sucking rear end would it take to turn on him? Just curious
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Sep 26, 2015 03:42
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shiksa posted:Its pretty funny that cousins is able to spark as much of a controversy after one week of being bad. How many weeks of eli sucking rear end would it take to turn on him? Just curious Well, I think the point here is that Cousins has actually been bad, quite a bit, whereas Eli Manning has: two Superbowl wins and several good seasons of play
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Sep 26, 2015 03:45
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^^^ this, basicallyshiksa posted:Its pretty funny that cousins is able to spark as much of a controversy after one week of being bad. How many weeks of eli sucking rear end would it take to turn on him? Just curious Eli always has the benefit of having done good things at more than one point in time. Even if he craters and takes the New Meadowlands with him it will always be about what he is at the time and not who he is overall. Also is anyone other than Fenrir saying Cousins is more than the second or third worst current starting QB?
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Sep 26, 2015 03:48
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No. Except maybe jay gruden
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Sep 26, 2015 03:56
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I'm gonna have to go to Virginia and coach the team. Put the team on my back. Why the gently caress did we pass it 50 times, when the running game has been the strong point?!?!?
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Sep 26, 2015 03:58
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A Man and his dog posted:I'm gonna have to go to Virginia and coach the team. Put the team on my back. Because the running game was ineffective and the Giants were concentrating on it
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Sep 26, 2015 04:14
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I guess down 0-12 nothing at the end of the 1st they decided to abandon it. I wish they would have kept with it a bit more. But are secondary was no match for there WR corp.
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Sep 26, 2015 04:20
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A Man and his dog posted:But are secondary was no match for there WR corp. Now I'm glad Washington lost
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Sep 26, 2015 04:22
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Jesus christ I wasn't saying he's elite, or even good. Fairly sure I said "he isn't that good" ... but you could do a lost worse. I mean look at what the Bears are about to put at QB this week.
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Sep 26, 2015 04:59
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Cavauro posted:you know who's good? pretty good? that's right folks it's Andy Dalton. It's true. He's a good quarterback.
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Sep 26, 2015 05:00
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Yaws posted:Off topic, but is there anyone that flamed out as quickly and profoundly as Ryan Leaf? I was watching some old ESPN broadcasts the other day and they were debating the merits of Leaf and Manning before the draft and That one guy who the Raiders drafted, oh christ why can't I remember his name. The guy who was basically a test tube QB, and ended up going nuts once he got out of mom and dad's house. Aha. Todd Marinovich. He was supposed to be the perfect QB. He imploded almost immediately. In less than 3 years he burned himself out of both the NFL and CFL. e: Also he was drafted ahead of Brett Favre. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Sep 26, 2015 |
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Sep 26, 2015 05:03
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RG3 is probably going down as one of the biggest bust of all time. I loved it. Wash over me.
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Sep 26, 2015 05:15
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A Man and his dog posted:RG3 is probably going down as one of the biggest bust of all time. I always thought he would bust but I also always hoped I'd be wrong about that.  I wanted him to be good but I remember thinking he was a more fragile version of Vick, and without the cannon arm. Basically he'd be awesome until the hit that destroyed him... and welp... that's kinda what happened
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Sep 26, 2015 05:18
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korrandark posted:Would you say he's ELITE? yeah 
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Sep 26, 2015 05:19
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A Man and his dog posted:RG3 is probably going down as one of the biggest bust of all time. No. RG3 had at least one very good season and doesn't appear to be addicted to cough syrup or food. The new CBA prevents the ludicrous contracts some of the other busts had as well. He's also not out of the league yet and while I'm not optimistic, there's a sliver of a chance he could revitalize his career with a fresh start somewhere.
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Fenrir posted:Jesus christ I wasn't saying he's elite, or even good. Fairly sure I said "he isn't that good" ... but you could do a lost worse. I mean look at what the Bears are about to put at QB this week. the bears don't really have an option though because fales sucks even worse than pickles
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Sep 26, 2015 05:30
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He still has a chance I guess. But if you look at what we gave up to acquire him then yeah. Pay scale don't mean poo poo to me.
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Sep 26, 2015 05:43
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A Man and his dog posted:He still has a chance I guess. Put in that context yeah it's a pretty big bust for the Redskins franchise. As far as all time there are worse, and you still actually have a halfway decent roster despite that trade! In a league so hungry for QBs I have no doubt somebody is going to give him a chance next year. He'll probably still end up a back up, but you never know.
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Sep 26, 2015 05:50
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Cavauro posted:yeah The Cowboys' mascot became a real boy! 
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Sep 26, 2015 06:02
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TubeStank posted:the bears don't really have an option though excuse me but 
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Sep 26, 2015 06:17
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Should've signed Rex Grossman.
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RG3 will definitely start somewhere else.Thinking Bears, Texans, Cowboys, Saints, Eagles, Cardinals, and hell probably the Browns would give him a few games to make something happen. Also, he's not really a bust-bust like Russel or Leaf, more of a broken-bust like Couch or Carr.
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Sep 26, 2015 08:59
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A Man and his dog posted:RG3 is probably going down as one of the biggest bust of all time. Jamarcus Russell was bad it led to the creation of a rookie pay scale
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Getting a good season out of him means RG3 will never be an ELITE bust.  Plus he was maybe literally crippled by his team so he'll always get some sympathy, whereas Leaf was just a huge douchebag and later an actual criminal.
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Sep 26, 2015 13:32
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TubeStank posted:We have seen cousins' cieling. It's so low a midget would hit his head on it. I have the lumps to prove this
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Filthy Casual posted:Should've signed Rex Grossman. It makes me sad that there are at least a half-dozen teams that should have signed Grossman, but no one did.
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