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Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Too often Christianity is associated with right wing reactionary politics and the GOP, which also happens to be explicitly anti-socialist.

Recently Pope Francis visited the United States, causing an uproar in the right wing movement because this guy had the audacity to take Jesus' Words about the poor seriously.

Seeing how flabbergasted they are by a man of God, (the head of the largest church no less!) talking about capitalism has inspired me to make this thread.

I am a sinner, but I've been saved by the Lord Jesus Christ.

I am also a Marxist, insofar as I've read some of Marx's work as well as other Marxist theorists and I find them to be monumental achievements in human understanding.


I think rather than these being opposed, they go hand in hand. My faith continuously reinforces my politics.

What this means is that I support workers rights, family values, life, and peace.

I used to be a liberal, but I feel God has worked to change my heart and my values.

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FalloutGod
Dec 14, 2006
You're a god drat liar. I've seen your other posts in GBS and you're just a trouble maker. Mods gas this thread stat! This gimmick might work at reddit though after the luck the dude in the china.jpg thread had with his/her ama post. Go there you stupid sexy commie Flanders.

FalloutGod fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Sep 26, 2015

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Please don't take the Lord's name in vain ITT, this thread is for asking questions so feel free to do that

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

How do you reconcile that avatar with your faith?

Asclepius Hot Rod
Apr 5, 2009
Why Christianity and not another religion such as Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism, etc. ?

I'm not asking as a gotcha or anything such as that, I seriously want to hear your position out.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
When anyone says they're Christian on the Internet I just assume they're trolling so please convince me you actually believe that the historical Jesus did miracles and is the only conduit through which you can prevent some supposedly permanent aspect of yourself from being punished by a mean goatwizard forever. Or, less snarkily, say something that makes me think you're actually religious.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Zogo posted:

How do you reconcile that avatar with your faith?

I appreciate sleek and effective ski wear what's the problem

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Asclepius Hot Rod posted:

Why Christianity and not another religion such as Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism, etc. ?

I'm not asking as a gotcha or anything such as that, I seriously want to hear your position out.

I considered myself atheist by the time I was graduating high school. A variety of experiences and studying some philosophy in college made me question the epistemological supremacy of logical positivism.

I began to open up to a sort of vague spirituality. I explored Hinduism and Buddhism, and spent some years practicing meditation.

Eventually though, over the course of a decade this started to shift towards Christianity, I found myself more and more pulled to the Gospel.

Likewise I also found myself becoming more politically radical and I found Christianity seemed to strengthen and affirm my growing knowledge of the world.

I also discovered the profound power of faith, as I began to have faith, big changes started happening in my life. I found self compelled to abruptly uproot myself from my city of residence and pursue things that seemed to be impossible for me before.

This led me to reuniting with the love of my life, committing myself to her and marrying her, and it's led to big changes in myself and my heart and actions.

The further I commit myself to my Christian faith, the more I find it working out and the deeper my understanding becomes.


I think my time and experience looking at other faiths has made me more open minded and has even complimented my faith now (Buddhist meditation techniques like Vipassana has really helped me in my prayer, helped me with humility and self sacrifice, and taught me patience and acceptance through hardships)



As for why Christianity over Islam or Judaism,

g.k. Chesterton posted:

Lastly, this truth is yet again true in the case of the common modern attempts to diminish or to explain away the divinity of Christ. The thing may be true or not; that I shall deal with before I end. But if the divinity is true it is certainly terribly revolutionary. That a good man may have his back to the wall is no more than we knew already; but that God could have his back to the wall is a boast for all insurgents for ever. Christianity is the only religion on earth that has felt that omnipotence made God incomplete. Christianity alone has felt that God, to be wholly God, must have been a rebel as well as a king.

Alone of all creeds, Christianity has added courage to the virtues of the Creator. For the only courage worth calling courage must necessarily mean that the soul passes a breaking point--and does not break. In this indeed I approach a matter more dark and awful than it is easy to discuss; and I apologise in advance if any of my phrases fall wrong or seem irreverent touching a matter which the greatest saints and thinkers have justly feared to approach. But in that terrific tale of the Passion there is a distinct emotional suggestion that the author of all things (in some unthinkable way) went not only through agony, but through doubt.

It is written, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." No; but the Lord thy God may tempt Himself; and it seems as if this was what happened in Gethsemane. In a garden Satan tempted man: and in a garden God tempted God.

He passed in some superhuman manner through our human horror of pessimism. When the world shook and the sun was wiped out of heaven, it was not at the crucifixion, but at the cry from the cross: the cry which confessed that God was forsaken of God. And now let the revolutionists choose a creed from all the creeds and a god from all the gods of the world, carefully weighing all the gods of inevitable recurrence and of unalterable power. They will not find another god who has himself been in revolt. Nay, (the matter grows too difficult for human speech,) but let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist.

It's the fact that God himself, throughnChrist can relate to us even in our doubt and disbelief in Him, which overcomes the chasm of doubt and reestablishes our relationship to Him. And Christ faces and passes through doubt, just like sin and death, and through Him we can too.

Commie NedFlanders fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 27, 2015

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Sheep-Goats posted:

When anyone says they're Christian on the Internet I just assume they're trolling so please convince me you actually believe that the historical Jesus did miracles and is the only conduit through which you can prevent some supposedly permanent aspect of yourself from being punished by a mean goatwizard forever. Or, less snarkily, say something that makes me think you're actually religious.

Real post I couldn't sleep 2 nights ago I was overcome with fear and trembling so I ended up slowly and carefully studying every verse of the first 10 chapters of the book of Romans and I felt so much better and learned s lot

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Commie NedFlanders posted:

I appreciate sleek and effective ski wear what's the problem

I thought it'd be more Christian:
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVvaRcQhW3iQAjnknnIlQ?p=christian+avatar

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Real post I couldn't sleep 2 nights ago I was overcome with fear and trembling so I ended up slowly and carefully studying every verse of the first 10 chapters of the book of Romans and I felt so much better and learned s lot

Nice!

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Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Commie NedFlanders posted:

I am also a Marxist, insofar as I've read some of Marx's work as well as other Marxist theorists and I find them to be monumental achievements in human understanding.

Whom do you base your political opinions off of? I understand that you are a marxist and a believer of scientific socialism, but implementation of marxist politics is debated constantly.

I personally am a Marx-Leninist myself, and I have sympathies for Trotskyism. I think social revolution is the main catalyst for economic equality.

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