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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Polls show he's the number 1 number 2 choice among republicans and the least disliked. lol if you really think kasich has any chance. he is huntsman 2.0. his base hates him and his only support is from rootless cosmopolitans that will vote for whoever has a d next to their name.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 06:18 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 11:32 |
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are you guys really this hilariously provincial? loving kasich as a serious republican contender lol
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 06:21 |
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:I acknowledged that he has no support in the base, I'm talking the general election, not the primary. Bush or Rubio could still pick him as a vice if nominated, knowing the base can't tea party their way out of voting with the establishment in a presidential race so they may as well aim for the middle. for what possible reason would they do that? i know the gop is inept but a vp the base hates with limited outside appeal sounds like a D voter dreaming of a landslide victory.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 06:29 |
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:I acknowledged that he has no support in the base, I'm talking the general election, not the primary. Bush or Rubio could still pick him as a vice if nominated, knowing the base can't tea party their way out of voting with the establishment in a presidential race so they may as well aim for the middle. if bush or rubio are running for pres a year from now the gop is a dead party.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 06:32 |
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kasich has ohio and a few pro gay statements. no conservative will vote for him and any liberal will vote for the D candidate. what is the possible upside for republicans?
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 06:40 |
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etalian posted:If elected he will replace the eagle on the presidential seal with a single glass of water i hope this is it cause thinking proles in the hinterland will vote for some yankee governor with a fag kid is hilarious.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 07:14 |
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Mitt Romney won the majority of the white vote in 2012, meaning there were some white folks who must've switched their vote who had voted for Obama in 2008 and Romney in 2012. Kasich appeals to those people, and if you look past policy, Hilary has like ability and trust issues, so the establishment republicans might be appealing to shallow moderates as well. Also Dick cheney's daughter is a lesbian. why would cynical whites vote for kasich over any other republican/democrat candidate? he is milquetoast and centrist neo-conservative/liberal. i know you guys get wet thinking of a republican thats ok with gay marriage but he has zero substance to win over his base.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 02:10 |
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if the gop establishment/media is foolhardy enough to run a bush/rubio ticket wth kasich as vp it is suicide.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 02:21 |
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Any candidate you like so long as it isn't Trump dehumanize yourself and face to TRUMP
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 03:25 |
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Coolness Averted posted:Kasich and Rubio have the strength that in the general election no one is coming out to vote against them. They actually have the best shot of winning against Hillary just by the base being mobilized against her. As opposed to the openly evil or batshit crazy sorts the base loves that would draw Sanders supporters out to hold their nose and vote for Hillary. you guys do understand that anti-mexican protectionism is a very popular view?
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 04:43 |
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Coolness Averted posted:Kasich and Rubio have the strength that in the general election no one is coming out to vote against them. They actually have the best shot of winning against Hillary just by the base being mobilized against her. As opposed to the openly evil or batshit crazy sorts the base loves that would draw Sanders supporters out to hold their nose and vote for Hillary. kasich and rubio have already had their view point destroyed by trump. i said it earlier but its hilariously provincial to think either of them will pull any significant number of base votes.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 04:46 |
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Coolness Averted posted:yeah that's why I said "The base will throw them out but in the GE they'd actually be strong" that is my question. the base hates them and any lib will vote for whoever has a d next to their name. what is the end goal?
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 05:20 |
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Jewel Repetition posted:Gentler stances on issues like gay marriage appeal to moderates now, not just liberals. do you really think this is true? have trouble imagining there is a sizable number of americans that care about gay marriage that would go rep if only they were democrat lite on social issues.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 05:28 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 11:32 |
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Much like the inroads to hispanic voters, it is now and always was a pipe dream. without feigning interest in social conservatism they have flooding the country with cheap 3rd world labor, wars for isreal and tax cuts for our oligarchs. outside of the donor class, apocalypse crazed evangelicals and jews thats not winning many votes.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 06:02 |