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Well Lentz was a Dolce guy right? I think that's the reason for the call out. But they might as well do Penn vs Dolce. I dunno if the Penn that showed up to Edgar 3 could hang with any top featherweight these days. As much as I'd like for Penn to go out on an impressive win I think he's gonna embarrass himself even more if he comes back. So he shouldn't.
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manyak posted:Gustaffson is overrated and has a lot of flaws in his game, which at 205 means hes only good enough to be a consistently top 3 guy, go a close 5 rounds with the best fighter to ever be in the division and has a good chance of beating the current champ Yep. He would probably have as much success at heavyweight too, as would Rumble and Jones and obviously Cormier. The thing that has hurt Gustafsson the most are the injuries. Going back to early 2013 he was supposed to have had fights with Mousasi, Lil Nog, and Glover but all of them got cancelled (mostly due to Gus pulling out). Had those fights happen Gus would have had a much better record than 1-2 going into his fight with DC this weekend.
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-Atom- posted:Man people turned on Hendricks real quick. I remember when he was generally well liked He had a really good fight with Condit, then a really good fight with GSP, and that was after knocking out a few contenders in Fitch & Kampmann. Then he had a really cool with fight Lawler. Hendricks from 2011 to the summer of 2014 was some good poo poo. Since then he's just complained that Rory MacDonald got the title shot, which ended up being on the best welterweight fights ever, and then complained that he had to fight Tyron Woodley, who he will now not be fighting because of his own fuckup, and complained about Carlos Condit fighting for the belt which Johny will probably never do again. Oh yeah and his fight with Brown wasn't very good either. Also he bought a dumb truck and opened up a bad restaurant. And he was the first big Reebok signed dude. So yeah this past year or so hasn't been good for Johny Hendricks at all. The turn is warranted imo.
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Benson Henderson just said on twitter he would gladly fight Woodley on 2 days notice and asks for Woodley to call his bluff on it. I'd be down to see that match tbh. UFC probably won't do it since they need Bendo to be healthy to headline that November South Korea card AND they probably enjoy embarrassing Hendricks at the moment. But that would be a better option than automatically giving Woodley a title shot and his show + win money for nothing.
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Oct 2, 2015 18:51
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Le Saboteur posted:This Ronda Rousey promo for UFC 194 is one of the greatest promos the UFC have ever put together. Also Fake Herb Dean. http://ellentube.com/videos/0-91z5qd54/  that's pretty cool. another million+ buys guaranteed, imo.I wish they could do one for Robbie Lawler and Carlos Condit just growing up kind of chill and ordinary with this insatiable bloodlust looming underneath but that wouldn't make a very cinematic promo.
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Oct 2, 2015 19:43
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yeah what I think people should take away from Cormier vs Gus is that Gus vs Jones definitely was not a fluke, Gus is a tough loving guy who is still dangerous even after the Rumble loss. I do think Cormier vs Jones 2 has a chance to be closer than the first match but Cormier's 5th round still doesn't look nearly as freaky as Jones' 5th round. So I would prefer to see Gus fight Jones again before Cormier does but eh them's the breaks. It sucks that Gustafsson has losses to the top 3 guys in the division, but the good news is he has a lot of ranked guys left he hasn't fought yet. Gus could definitely beat Shad who is coming off of a loss and then fight the winner of Glover/Cummins or some poo poo and be right back in there for a rematch against Jones late next year. Really Gus just needs to avoid Rumble cause that will probably be his worst matchup in the division.
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Oct 5, 2015 02:30
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Marching Powder posted:a good fight, but definitely not a classic. disagreed. while not as good as these other fights, it came out today that Gus and Cormier hit each other more than Jones and Gus did (setting a new record) and slightly less than Robbie and Hendricks did in their first fight (falling just short of the all-time record). Cormier and Gus beat the poo poo out of each other, there were cool takedowns, a dramatic knockdown by the challenger (I believe the first time DC has been knocked down?), and it was a competitive engaging fight for all 25 minutes. If Cormier had been a longtime champion like Jones was before he fought Gus it would have had the same "holy poo poo" reaction. it deserves to be included in the list of other classic title fights. Then you can argue which ones are better than others, which it would come in toward the bottom but that's okay. Bubba Smith fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Oct 5, 2015 18:56
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Bluedeanie posted:How quickly we forget Rumble Johnson. Oh yeah you're right, I forgot about that because DC popped back up even faster than he did after Gus knocked him down. david carmichael posted:sorry what record is that? CommonShore posted:Maybe most sig. str in a ufc title fight? Yep. Cormier vs Gus is now 2nd place for most significant stirkes in a title fight at 260 or so. Robbie vs Johny is at the top at 300.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:11
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Seltzer posted:has ok fights. Nope. he's had a few good performances here and there but overwhelmingly his fights have been forgettable decision fights. The Davis match, 5 round OSP match, the Rampage fight, the Perosh fight which was the most gimme opponent ever and he still couldn't do much to finish, and probably others that I did indeed forget about. Bader's fight with Jardine was A Classic, but he still has a long ways to go until he's known more for good wins than spectacular losses to Machida/Tito/etc.
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Oct 5, 2015 22:36
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Yeah, when you get really defensive about Ryan Bader you've probably hosed up in life. Agreed.
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yep. though it is nuts how shogun is only a year older than Bader. shogun should already be in his 40s by now and retiring, not one of the youngest fighters in the LHW division. what the gently caress
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Oct 6, 2015 06:33
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TheCool69 posted:In switching camp news.. Well it says right there in the quote he hasn't switched camps per se, not like how TJ just left TAM. Pettis is just doing a specific training camp with Duke Roufous and handpicked coaches/sparring partners near Roufusport. That ain't the same when most fighters "switch camps," i.e. they blame all their losses on the coaching and burn every bridge and move to Florida.
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Oct 7, 2015 01:29
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I don't think TJ is a bitch for leaving TAM. Team Alpha Male is a great camp but after so many years there TJ and the other little alpha males have mostly learned about all they can from Urijah and the other coaches/fighters. Even though TJ is way ahead of the rest of the division I don't think it's a bad idea to go train with new people and hopefully expand his game even further. The quote TJ's new head coach gave on the situation sort of rubs me the wrong way though, to borrow that from Faber: quote:As for the circumstances surrounding Dillashaw's decision, Bowling said it had nothing to do with recent issues that have been brought to light by both Faber and Ludwig. He's not wrong that it probably isn't a good idea for a champion to be worried about splitting his time between multiple camps, but I dunno, of course it's easy for Bowling to tell TJ not to worry about loyalty when the outcome is he gets a UFC champion training at his gym full-time. I don't think TJ is a snake in the grass but Leister Bowling sounds like one to me.
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Oct 7, 2015 03:56
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Marching Powder posted:what the gently caress? it's really solid advice to not let personal relationships get in the way of business especially when the guy giving said advice benefits from it the most, that was my point. Of course he's going to tell TJ not to worry about Faber & loyalty when he gets to train a UFC champion now and Urijah does not. I didn't say it was the wrong choice, just I didn't like the statement he gave about TJ's situation.
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Oct 7, 2015 04:35
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I don't think 145 is a mess. I also don't think JDS, with wins over Cain Velasquez and Fabricio Werdum, is much worse than Cain Velasquez and Fabricio Werdum. You could just go with 3 great fighters I think. controversial opinions. in fact I would argue that 170 and 185 are more of a mess at the moment since you have high profile guys like Anderson and Lombard out of action due to drug tests and Johny Hendricks loving up the #1 contender fight by refusing to put down cheeseburgers. Edgar, Mendes, Conor, and Aldo might be a touch better than the rest but at least everybody ranked at 145 is having good fights this year.
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Oct 7, 2015 19:42
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1st AD posted:After the Holm fight I doubt we even see Ronda back until July or August, plenty of time for someone to win 2 in a row. yeah doesn't she have two movies in starring roles lined up? Even if Ronda finishes the Holm fight in 10 seconds it would be dumb to rush back, she has better stuff to do.
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Oct 8, 2015 05:41
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tbh I think if you're paying a UFC champion to train at your gym exclusively $50k a year is dirt cheap. That's less money than they get from Reebok per fight, and Reebok doesn't pay out poo poo. So I would hope Dillashaw got more than that. It sounds like Dillashaw was already thinking of going out to Colorado anyway, the money was just extra incentive from Bowling to get him to leave Faber. Which I still say comes off as scummy to me but whatever.
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1st AD posted:I don't think there's anything scummy about TJ leaving? He got a massive financial incentive to train with another team that happens to be close to his cosh and mentor. Maybe it will turn out poorly, maybe he'll do fine, only time will tell. I wasn't talking about TJ leaving, I've never had a problem with that, I mean how Leister Bowling told TJ not to worry about being loyal to Faber and now I read that was also accompanied by him paying TJ a ton of money to leave TAM and come train at his facility. I just personally don't like it but I'm also not a shrewd business person.
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Seltzer posted:lol they start the podcast with shirts on and they're off by the end. I wouldn't have a Team Alpha Male podcast any other way. I'm not done listening but Faber basically says that TJ got paid peanuts to go train over at Team Elevation. Or as he put it, "if you mowed lawns for a whole summer you would get the same amount of money." This whole thing seems weird to me.
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Dangersim posted:Apparently Ludwig called Faber and told him he had nothing to do with all this It makes sense. TJ was already doing half of his camp with Duane for the last Barao fight and neither he nor Faber made a big issue about it at the time. I believe Duane said that while he did want more time with TJ he still got in enough to make sure TJ was ready for the match. My point is that if TJ slowly started spending more time in Colorado and less in Sacramento I don't think there would have been nearly as much drama with the transition, but I'm assuming part of TJ getting paid by Team Elevation was to make it clear & public that he's no longer going to be a Team Alpha Male fighter.
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Oct 9, 2015 21:21
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Northjayhawk posted:How often is the challenger more prominent and impressive on the poster for a title fight? Diaz vs GSP poster. But that one made more sense thematically as Diaz was supposed to be this wicked force looming over GSP that he finally had to confront. I saw the RDA vs Cerrone poster earlier and was surprised too but I don't dislike it. It looks good at least. Truthfully they should have saved the composition for RDA vs Khabib since Khabib actually is the dominating force that RDA has to prove himself against to be the undisputed champ. RDA already beat Cerrone. I suppose the cowboy hat wouldn't have looked as good if it were facing dead-on though.
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Aurain posted:Put it this way, if you like watching Joe Rogan's podcast where he sits at his table talking about alphabrain, you'd probably enjoy Joe Rogan and his mates getting high as gently caress then play Grand Theft Auto while talking about alphabrain. If any of us actually watched fights, I'd watch funny people watch fights and talk about them while they happened. Sort of like what Joe Rogan is doing with his fight companion podcast, but legally allowed to broadcast the fight footage simultaneously on the screen. Now replace that with video games. whoa.
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Oct 10, 2015 21:27
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Bundt Cake posted:did you miss their last 100000000 title fights they were all pretty entertaining tbh. has TAM had an unenjoyable title fight? Maybe the first Faber vs Barao interim title match. but that is 1/1000. all the others were worth watching. good return imo. In the ongoing saga of Dillashaw vs Faber, TJ said on Ariel's show this morning he's banned from returning to Team Alpha Male's gym. It makes sense if TJ really was using most of the younger/inexperienced students to beat up on, but yeah they are setting the stage up for Dillashaw to fight Faber next summer if he gets by Cruz. RIP Assuncao, the man who never mattered.
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Oct 12, 2015 18:17
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Marching Powder posted:1) he literally always was actually in the interview TJ says it was a surprise to hear Faber be the one saying he would be fine with fighting him since he thought "they were a lot closer than that" and that "Faber is looking for a big fight in his career and I don't want to have to do it." Ariel prods like how he does so he does get TJ to answer yes, if offered the fight and there being no other options available he would take it, but then again repeats himself that he doesn't wish it to happen and instead it should be on Faber to change weight classes or find another big fight. So I think it's a bit of a misquote to say that TJ is fine with fighting Faber. if I had to guess I think Faber is way more eager for that match than TJ is for numerous reasons. After hearing the whole TJ interview I agree with him when he said that this whole story never should have been as big of an issue as it was. I think he just got hosed in the press and the fans by doing it in the slowest month of UFC news in a long, long time.
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Marching Powder posted:nobody wants to fight friends btw, they do it because they're professionals which faber certainly is and tj almost certainly is. that was probably the first time he had to seriously consider the possibility and responded like a (reluctant) pro. i don't think it's misquoting him at all to say he would do it and be fine with it if you define 'fine' as being able to give 100% and not as in happy to fight a friend agreed, but that isn't how all the sites are reporting it unfortunately. they want the clickbait title so they're going with Dillashaw wants to fight Faber, confident he would win when that isn't how the conversation went at all.
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acai moonsault posted:Rothwell vs Miocic is off the dublin card because Miocic is injured. that has to be now weakest card in terms of name value in a while that majorly sucks, but for a Fight Pass card seeing Poirier vs Duffy, Paddy Holohan vs Smolka, and Seery vs who gives a poo poo will still all be fun fights to watch. Much better than usual Fight Pass cards even without the greatest heavyweight match of the century. If they can get him I'd like that Ruslan Magomedov guy to fight Rothwell since he's an undefeated* heavyweight with some of the most plodding decision victories recently while Rothwell has some of the most exciting heavyweight fights.
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niethan posted:Is Duffy's third fight in the UFC being a main event a record of some sorts? Probably not, right? also Ilir Latifi and Joe Soto
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Lid posted:January 3rd, 2015 he did lose (and cry) but he had a competitive 3 rounds with the champion and then beat the two other top guys in the division & won a belt in the process. That's a pretty good year for anybody. Cerrone and Conor are like the only two guys who are gonna have a better year if they win their upcoming championship bouts.
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Oct 19, 2015 06:31
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Lloyd Boner posted:How about RDA if he beats Cowboy? Only two wins, but against some pretty insane competition, and he became champ as a 5-to-1 underdog. Yeah RDA is up there too obviously but Cerrone's case is stronger since if he wins that's 4 wins in 2015, 2 over legit competition and redemption fights against Benson and Dos Anjos and he wins the belt. That's a lock for Fighter of the Year imo. Conor cause that'd be 3 wins in 2015, knocking off a top guy in Mendes and the long reigning champion in Aldo. Cormier, even though he went 2-1, all 3 were the best in the division so he's the fat dark horse in the race. and yeah I expect it to go to Ronda cause even though Joanna's fights are all going to be sick as hell and she was the underdog for her championship bout, Ronda beat 3 people in under a minute flat. That's insane even if she is fighting trash cans. But since we all know rhonda isn't as good as yoshida, let's talk about Conor and Cerrone and Cormier and Condit.
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Lid posted:I'm trying to recall DC being competitive with Jones. He didn't get blown out and did win round 1, but a lot of my memories of that fight are DC trying really hard to take down Jones and failing while Jones took down DC a lot. DC won a "moral" victory by spending the last round rather than going for a KO or anything just trying to take down Jones. It was round 2 that he won and 3 was close before he gassed and got beat the gently caress up in 4 and 5 and lost, but that's besides the point. You can remove DC's winning a fake belt if you want to be a dick about it and he still beat the top two other opponents in his division, something no other fighter has done this year. Mighty Mouse gets a pass because he's already beaten everybody, but right now Cerrone/Conor/Weidman/Rockhold/RDA are the only guys left who will be fighting their second top ranked opponents before the end of the year. Then you can get into arguments about what's more impressive, Conor beating Mendes and Aldo in a year or Dos Anjos beating Pettis and Cerrone in a year over DC beating Rumble and Gustafsson. I'm not saying Daniel Cormier should be awarded the illustrious "Ultimate Fighting Championship Reebok Fighter of the Year," as I do think when it's all said and done there will be a few people ahead of him. But if some funny things happen before the end of the year he'd be worthy of it. People who say he isn't are either making dumb "lol LHW sucks" points or are retarded, whatever they want to go with. However I non-sarcastically agree it should go to Dan Henderson if he knocks out & retires Vitor Belfort in Brazil. That's actually the best story of the year if he does it. nam as te Bubba Smith fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Bundt Cake posted:who was fighter of the year last year Robbie Lawler. That's why, as much as I love him, I think it's a bit egregious to say he should win it this year when comparatively his 1 fight against MacDonald wasn't as cool as the 4 fights total he had in 2015.
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Oct 19, 2015 18:06
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Bundt Cake posted:Who was fighter of the year 2 years ago Weidman for beating Anderson twice. bundt I appreciate you making GBS threads all over the rinky-dink fighter of the year award but other real sports get to have MVPs awarded. fighter of the year is the only thing we have, please do not take that away from us
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Trast posted:Worst career move has to go to Jon Jones this year for the DUI. If not for that he was probably going to beat Rumble, beat Gus in a rematch, and jump to heavyweight. Not quite fighter of the year but pretty good years all-in-all candidates: Uriah Hall if he goes 4-1 in 2015 after everyone thinking he was utter lovely trash, Max Holloway on the verge of going 4-0 with a few good wins in there, Demian Maia about to go 3-0 after everyone thinking he was utter lovely trash (again),
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Dangersim posted:I'm scared that khabib may turn into a "what could have been" story I wouldn't worry about it too much. He's still basically the youngest ranked lightweight UFC has, only Dariush is younger by 1 year I think. The injuries might impact his performance but tons of athletes bounce back from knee injuries, and I'm gonna guess Khabib has some decent genetics cause he wrestled a bear that one time. Tony Ferguson is also way too comfortable fighting off his back so I think Khabib will be in good form for his December fight. I expect it to look similar to the Tony Ferguson vs Danny Castillo match but much more decisive for Khabib.
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Lorenzo Fertitta once said in an interview "yeah, we pay our athletes a fair amount", now let me write a 500 page analysis on revenue sharing from that.
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I actually think by the time CM Punk fights the over a year and a half of daily training from Duke Roufus he's had will make him a pretty drat good 0-0 fighter, but he would still get his poo poo wrecked by Amir Sadollah.DumbWhiteGuy posted:If anyone got anything out of this, I'd like to hear it. I didn't. It might become a building block later on in life when we can start getting more contract info. Here is their big stab at trying to nail down fighter pay: I didn't either which is why I stopped reading when I read the word "estimate" like 30 times before that line you quoted from Lorenzo. It's the same analysis I do when I try to estimate how many PPVs Demetrious Johnson has sold (estimation: not many). Except I don't usually take ten thousand words and pie graphs to make my bad posts. Some good information might come out with that lawsuit UFC is dealing with right now, until then Fighter Pay is still not a good topic. But I agree, Brendan Schaub is full of poo poo. As far as an article on "is UFC making money?" then yes, I suppose they are making money so it was a good piece on that.
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acai moonsault posted:lawlor vs. maldonado is off reading Lawlor's reason for pulling out of the fight made me sort of sad: By the way Fabio Maldonado is still fighting on the card against Corey Anderson. Fabio Maldonado doesn't give a poo poo about brain trauma.
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