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Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

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Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Tokamak posted:

Tony Abbott ate a raw onion

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Re-posting from previous thread in case anyone missed it:

Turnbull government shelves controversial university reforms in major departure from Abbott era

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...930-gjynlt.html

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Tony's Aussie radio tour continues!

Tony Abbott pleads the Fifth Amendment when asked if he's forgiven Malcolm Turnbull

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...001-gjypw9.html

quote:

Former prime minister Tony Abbott has returned to the airwaves and revealed he never trusted Malcolm Turnbull, believing he was always intent on seizing the leadership.
In an interview with 3AW broadcaster Neil Mitchell on Thursday, Mr Abbott declined to say whether he had forgiven Mr Turnbull, despite pledging on the day after he lost the leadership of the Liberal Party and the country that there would be "no sniping".

Mr Abbott also hit out at his allies in the conservative media, accusing them of not doing enough to back his "brave reforming" budget of 2014, which included a series of broken promises that were a catalyst for poor poll results.
Mr Abbott also warned his successor against raising the GST, predicting such a move would be a "terrible mistake".
Asked whether he had forgiven Mr Turnbull, Mr Abbott declined to answer.

"That's a very good question and its probably one where I might exercise the former prime minister's prerogative of silence," he said.

"[There's] obviously been a lot of dirty water under the bridge.
"I have often said that Malcolm didn't stay in the Parliament to be someone else's minister; he's now got his chance at the top job. He's a very capable person, let's hope he makes the most of it."
Mr Abbott said his only communication with his leadership rival was an "exchange of texts" last week.

He said he had also received some "interesting" texts from some colleagues who abandoned him on the night of the spill.
"I've had some interesting texts from colleagues explaining that while it was a very good government doing a lot of good things they felt that change was unavoidable."

'Don't abandon the party'

Mr Abbott's demise has prompted seven Liberals to quit the party in Tasmania and eight to join, according to a statement from the president of the Liberal Party's Tasmanian branch.
The statement was issued after the dumped cabinet minister Eric Abetz emailed supporters claiming "hundreds" had quit the party in protest at Mr Turnbull's reinstatement as leader.
Mr Abbott pleaded with anyone thinking of abandoning the party or forming a breakaway movement to stay with the Liberal and National parties.

"I'd say please don't, please don't. The Liberal Party doesn't have enough members as it stands, we can't afford to lose good members. I can understand why people are dismayed at the fact we did what we said we'd never do."
He warned a splinter right-wing movement could damage Coalition governments across the country.
"The impact of the One Nation movement was to bring the Howard government perilously close to defeat in 1998," he said.
"The last thing we need is another conservative party, particularly a rogue conservative party that is raging against the world, that's the last thing we need."

Media to blame

Mr Abbott revived his complaints about the media but broadened his criticisms to include the conservative broadsheet The Australian, which he accused of failing to strongly back his first budget. He said this contradicted the paper's "constant drumbeat" for economic deregulation.
This came as the Turnbull government confirmed it was dumping one of the hallmarks of Mr Abbott's first budget – the proposal to uncap university fees.

"That's an interesting one," Mr Abbott observed, when asked to comment on Mr Turnbull's decision.
"Given the realities of the situation in the Senate I can understand it but I am disappointed by it and frankly, I'm a little disappointed that more of the people who keep saying we need reform, we need cuts in government spending, we need long-term structural change, did not get behind the 2014 budget," he said.
"It was a brave, bold, budget that turned out to be too gutsy for the Parliament we had."
"It was exactly what our country needed from a new and innovative, reforming government," Mr Abbott said.

Mr Abbott's first budget included several policies that were in breach of his election promises or not foreshadowed.
This included cuts to the public broadcaster's budget and a proposed $7 fee to visit the doctor, as well as the higher education deregulation plan.
He revealed early polling showed voters might warm to the GP fee and said media speculation - which had been rubbished by the government - meant voters should not have been completely surprised by the idea.
But Mr Abbott conceded more "lead up work" should have been done to prepare voters for such radical changes, however he argued such changes were justified given the condition of the budget.

Knighting Prince Philip 'injudicious'

Asked if his decision to Knight Prince Philip was a mistake, Mr Abbott said it was unwise.
Reflecting on his future intentions Mr Abbott stressed that at 57 year of age, he is "too young to retire" but he said he would not make a decision on his political life this year.

"I haven't made any decisions and I don't expect to make any firm decisions this side of Christmas," he said.
"I'm too young to retire, I still have a lot of interest in public life and one way or another I want to make a contribution."
He did not rule out the idea of returning to the frontbench in a Turnbull government, even if the idea is only hypothetical and agreed the idea of a former prime minister sitting on the backbench seemed "silly" when compared to the British Westminster system.
"Normally former prime ministers remain in the Commons for a period and ultimate go into the House of Lords. We don't have those traditions, we don't have those institutions in this country," he said.
"The last thing I want to be is a thorn I the side of the people who are doing what they can…to serve our country," he said.

Three word slogans

One of the hallmarks of Mr Abbott's tenure as opposition leader and prime minister was his use of what Labor coined "three word slogans."
Asked to provide some pithy lines to sell the new Turnbull government Mr Abbott offered: "Government goes on," and "The government hasn't changed".
"It doesn't matter how the prime minister arrived that job, it doesn't matter how particular ministers arrived in their particular jobs."

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

I quite like this part of the development tho:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/paul-keatings-vision-for-the-headland-park-at-barangaroo-20150821-gj4hg9.html

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
But ~10% of the voting population negative gear! My precious votes!

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
So what does this mean for Tony's leadership ambitions?

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/so-thats-it-for-abbott-in-canberra-dont-bet-on-it-20151001-gjyx45.html

quote:

For the time being, Abbott says he has no immediate plans and will not decide "this side of Christmas" whether to stay in parliament, and seek a frontbench position.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Yep, sociopath.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
How the gently caress did a 15 year old kid get a gun? Sigh.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Haha those Chaser guys up to no good again!

:stare:

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Never underestimate the ability for the Australian Public to vote against their own interests.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Battlelines ~20,000

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
I was happy to pay $18 for a movie ticket on Sunday because I knew the staff were getting paid a reasonable wage for a public holiday. I'm sure the majority of people feel the same way. Just charge more.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
United Cinemas. I think it's usually ~$15.

BTW definitely check out The Martian - I've read the book and I think they did a good adaptation.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Yeah good one Bill

Shorten demands Government help alleged Nauru rape victim seeking abortion

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-07/labor-calls-on-government-to-help-alleged-nauru-rape-victim/6834514

quote:

The Government must stop acting like "robots with no hearts" and allow a pregnant alleged rape victim to come to Australia for medical treatment, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten says.
Lawyers acting for the 23-year-old Somali woman say her pregnancy was the result of a "horrific" sexual assault in July and she is trying to reach Australia to get an abortion.
She is not being named in order to protect her identity. Her refugee claim has been processed and she is living outside the detention centre on Nauru.

"Our client has been subjected to a horrific sexual assault," lawyer George Newhouse said.
"She's currently unable to leave her small room, she's extremely scared and vulnerable and she's trying to deal with the fact that she's now pregnant after this vicious assault."

Mr Newhouse has written to the Prime Minister, Immigration Minister, Minister for Women and the secretary of the Immigration Department Mike Pezzullo, calling for the woman to be moved to Australia urgently.

"Firstly, the United Nations say that it's actually illegal to have a termination on Nauru," Mr Newhouse said.
"Secondly, the hospital facilities and medical practitioners are not equipped to perform such a termination on the island."
The woman's case was first raised as part of a 7.30 story last month.

Mr Newhouse said his client is believed to be between 11 and 14 weeks pregnant and is in a "terrible state".

He said she is not eating and has lost 10 kilograms since becoming pregnant.
"It is just cruel and inhumane to leave a woman in this situation," she said.
Even if she is allowed to come to Australia she will most likely have to secure a late-term termination.
Mr Newhouse was a former Labor candidate for Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull's seat of Wentworth in 2007.

Mr Shorten said he had been in contact with Mr Newhouse and the matter was "black and white".

"Frankly, I'm deeply shocked at reports that a 23-year-old person indirectly in Australia's care in Nauru cannot get medical treatment that they require urgently," Mr Shorten said.
"It's not a matter of governments acting like robots with no hearts.
"If this woman requires medical treatment — I've spoken to her lawyers today, she does — if she's gone without medical treatment for four weeks, she should get the medical treatment in Australia. Anything else is a travesty of justice."

The Prime Minister and Immigration Minister have been contacted for comment.
Greens immigration spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young has also raised concern about the woman, and said she must be urgently transferred to Australia.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Ughhhh. Oh wait it's fake, right?

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Devour live babies is his favourite.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
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Halo14 fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Oct 11, 2015

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
ISIS Club eh...

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Baffles me how people can be so patriotic about their country. I really don't give a gently caress about nationalism.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Time for some...politics?

NBN would go back to fibre optic under Australian Labor Party, says Jason Clare

http://www.smh.com.au/business/nbn-would-go-back-to-fibre-optic-under-australian-labor-party-says-jason-clare-20151013-gk8fih?stb=twt

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Shadow Communications Minister Jason Clare has indicated that Labor would ramp up the amount of homes connected using fibre-optic cabling as part of the $56 billion national broadband network if it wins the next Federal Election.
The Coalition under then-Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who is now Prime Minister, changed the NBN to use a range of cheaper and slower technologies including fibre-to-the-node, which relies on the existing copper phone line to deliver broadband.
Labor's national platform in July stated that the party would now be forced to adopt a two-stage rollout if elected - a move many fairly assumed meant it would complete the Coalition's NBN before upgrading the connections to be fully-fibred.

But in a speech given to the CommsDay Summit in Melbourne on Wednesday morning, Mr Clare said a vote for Labor would be a vote for a fibre to the premise NBN.
"Fibre to the node will be gone," he said. "It's not a question of if this will happen, it's when it will happen and how it will be done.
"If you vote for the Labor Party at the next election you will be voting for more fibre."

Mr Clare declined to release more policy details. But sources close to the party said it meant Labor would make the contractual changes required to deploy more fibre-optic cabling across Australia if it won government. It previously wanted 93 per cent of premises to be directly connected to the NBN using fibre to the premise technology.
The sources said such a move would occur gradually because the locations already slated for fibre to the node would already have their deployments locked in. But rollouts planned after that would move to using more FTTP.
They also suggested the Hybrid-fibre Coaxial (HFC) cables that are currently used for Pay TV services may be kept given the billions of dollars being spent on upgrading them.

The current NBN project predicts that just 20 per cent of Australian homes and businesses will get fibre to the premise, with 38 per cent getting fibre to the node or basement and 34 per cent getting upgrades to their hybrid fibre-coaxial, or HFC, connections, which are now delivering pay TV.
The move would come with a risk of delay - the NBN under Labor consistently missed rollout targets due to lengthy construction delays and worker shortages. Mr Turnbull has said this would also result in years of delays and tens of billions of dollars in extra funding requirements.
But Mr Clare said the Coalition's reliance on copper networks for the NBN meant that in some locations, such as Newcastle and the Central Coast, more than 90 per cent of copper pairs needed to be fixed - a process the telecommunications industry calls "remediation".

He cited unnamed contracting sources, who said up to 15 per cent of copper lines in those regions had to be partly replaced.
"Another contractor told me in Campbelltown in Sydney that NBN has had to recently replace almost 3 kilometres of old copper with new copper," he said.
Last month, NBN told Fairfax Media that almost none of the phone lines in its Newcastle trial sites had to be fixed.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

ewe2 posted:

This is just code for "we'll promise FTTN to marginal electorates and actually do it and then we'll win". Something tells me Bendigo might get NBN in town after all.

Yeah true. Ridiculous how they're going to the expense of new copper in certain areas.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

katlington posted:

How many antimuslim nutters do you think know any actual muslims? Having zero contact with the other helps maintain the levels of ignorance and fear because reality will never get in the way.

Had a bloke talk poo poo about his muslim neighbors a little while ago. Says they never socialise, keep to themselves etc.

I just said they're probably really nice, why don't you go meet them or say hello the next time you see 'em? Didn't seem too interested in that idea. Suddenly he wasn't so passionate about that subject.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
This video?

https://www.facebook.com/unitedpatriotsfront/videos/vb.106736366327491/187182238282903/?type=2&theater

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Jesus stop posting the picture of Mr Potato Head.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Hahahaha

Labor questions accuracy of Malcolm Turnbull's glowing results in Fairfax-Ipsos poll

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-19/labor-questions-accuracy-of-turnbulls-glowing-results-in-poll/6865682

quote:

Labor has questioned the credibility of the latest Fairfax-Ipsos poll in the wake of a crushing result for the Turnbull Government.
The poll recorded a seven-point turnaround in the Coalition's fortunes since August, with it leading Labor after preferences by 53 per cent to 47 per cent.
It also showed Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull's personal approval on 68 per cent to Opposition Leader Bill Shorten's 32 per cent.

But in a tweet, Labor frontbencher Kim Carr has pointed out what appears to be a anomaly in the state-by-state breakdown of the results.
"Fairfax-Ipsos Poll claims to have the Labor vote in Victoria on 28%. Believable?' he wrote.
The figures also showed the Greens' primary vote in Victoria on 21 per cent, six points clear of the figure in Western Australia and nearly double that of most other states.
While a good result for the new Turnbull Government was not surprising, this was well up on the bounce seen in most other polls.


Malcolm Turnbull is riding a wave of positive poll results as he wins over progressive voters. But the issue of asylum seekers, and particularly that of the women allegedly raped on Nauru, will put this to the test, writes Paula Matthewson.
This was the second outlier result for a poll that has struggled this year.
In March, following the first party room revolt against Tony Abbott, the poll recorded a four-point rise in the Coalition's primary vote, an eight-point turnaround in a month.
At that time, pollster Jessica Elgood explained the results this way: "Voters appear to already be factoring in Abbott's potential departure. They don't like him, prefer Turnbull and assume Abbott is not long in his job."

The latest poll of 1,403 respondents was taken from Thursday to Saturday and had a margin of error of 2.6 per cent.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Julia Gillard advocates for Hillary Clinton in campaign video for US presidential hopeful

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-20/julia-gillard-recruited-for-new-hillary-clinton-campaign-video/6868534

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Former prime minister Julia Gillard has been recruited as part of Hillary Clinton's United States presidential bid.
Ms Gillard applauded Ms Clinton's efforts to promote the cause of women and girls in developing nations.

"Hillary Clinton understood in her heart how important it was for girls to get an opportunity, but she also understood in her head that if we want to build peaceful, economically prosperous nations then we have to educate girls," Ms Gillard said.
"She was determined to see that women take their places as economic partners in their community and take their places as political leaders in their community."

The video was published as part of Ms Clinton's bid to become the next president of the United States and also featured former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright and defence secretary Leon Panetta.
The former prime minister has also praised Ms Clinton for her efforts on the diplomatic stage, with the pair working closely as part of president Barack Obama's "pivot" to the Asia-Pacific region.

"It fell to Secretary Clinton to build and renew the relationship with Japan, with Australia, with South Korea," Ms Gillard said.
"Through her engagement with so many leaders, but also the calibre of her intellect, she was a shaper of conversations and that's going to be remembered for many, many long years to come as a diplomatic breakthrough for the US."
Ms Albright has also praised Ms Clinton's performance, claiming she restored America's reputation abroad by the combination of soft power, diplomacy and the hard power of force.
Ms Clinton is considered the frontrunner in the Democratic race for the White House.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
NSW networks canvass “solar tax” for households, as well as storage and EVs

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2015/nsw-networks-canvass-solar-tax-for-households-as-well-as-storage-and-evs-79150

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The three state-government owned electricity networks in New South Wales are canvassing the possibility of hitting solar households with extra network charges, purportedly to recapture the “cost” of households exporting solar to the grid.
The proposal – included in a document “Electricity Tariff Reform in NSW” – is sure to outrage the solar sector, which already believes that households are being penalised by being paid so little, and in some cases nothing at all, for their exports back into the grid.


The distribution networks – Ausgrid, Endeavour and Essential – are inviting comments on if there should be “separate network charges for customers who have the ability to use power from the network, and also have the ability to feed surplus power back into the grid.”
It says this charge, effectively a network tax on export, could be extended to households with battery storage and electric vehicles.
“An export generation tariff for network usage could be technology neutral, and could be charged to residential or small business customers who export electricity to the grid to reflect the costs imposed on the network. This could include householders with photovoltaic solar panels, battery storage, or electric vehicles.”

It follows their extraordinary move in taking the Australian Energy Regulator to court after the AER rejected their submissions to spend billions of dollar more on network upgrades. The NSW government is seeking to sell down its stakes in Ausgrid and Endeavour, and needs high revenues to maximise the asking price.
A similar proposal – for an additional network tax on solar households – was made by South Australia Power Networks.
It wanted to charge solar households an extra $100 a year for the privilege of exporting power back to the grid. The proposal was greeted with howls of protest and rejected by the Australian Energy Regulator. But SAPN is still keen to try and implement the change, and has taken the issue to the Federal Court.


Australian solar households – apart from those with discontinued premium feed-in tariffs – are paid little for their exports to the grid.
In NSW, the payment is voluntary, but the recommended level has been cut to 4.8c/kWh, partly due to the falling price of wholesale electricity, and in part driven by the increase in rooftop solar. The pricing regulator says it is cutting tariffs because it wants to encourage battery storage.
The payments for exports do not include any consideration of benefits to networks (in delaying and in some cases avoiding peak demand events), and to the environment (in the form of reduced emissions).
Utilities can then sell that power exported to the grid to other users for the full retail price, which includes the network charges. Now, it seems, the state-owned networks want to pocket that network fee, and charge the solar households an additional fee.

It is similar to the “solar tax” imposed in Spain that is causing outrage in that country, and part of a general push-back by utilities to defend their business models against the rising threat of household solar, battery storage, and the move to decentralised energy.
The networks justify this by saying that they need to be able to meet the “peak demands of consumers”. But as this report released today highlights, networks have already spent $75 billion on upgrades in the past decade to meet peak demand forecast that never eventuated.
The grid has been built bigger than needed, and the costs have already been passed on to consumers.
Muriel Watt, from the Australian PV Institute, says the grid should be seen as a service provider to facilitate a whole range of transfers, and if networks want to remain relevant in future, they need to provide a platform that suits what customers want to do.

“It would seem that having a grid which facilitates customer generation, storage and load is an essential, if they want to remain in business – otherwise customers will drop off, or new grid equivalents will be built (EVs are a good example of being able to transfer power from one site to the next).
“If provision of grid services is transparent, then customers would be in a much better position to be able to decide whether they want the grid service or not. However, networks would certainly need to pay customers for the benefits they provide.”

The networks could address this with truly “cost reflective” tariffs, but seem determined to ignore the issue of air-conditioning that is responsible for high grid costs paid by everyone (and a massive cross-subsidisation from people who don’t own A/C).
Indeed, the paper also canvasses “declining block” tariffs – where the cost of electricity actually falls the more the consumer uses. The networks says this is good, because the more the consumer consumes, the easier it is for the networks to meet their revenue caps.

“Under capped revenue regulation, increasing electricity consumption reduces network charges and declining network consumption increases network charges,” the networks argue.
Watt says the networks are operating in isolation, without taking account of the whole picture. “Less use of, or need for the grid is seen by them as a negative, so we have EE and PV, which reduce grid use, as something to be prevented.”

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Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Make Tony a full time volunteer fire fighter. Pay him with cups of tea n Tim Tam's.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Has this been posted yet?

15 things you should know about Australia’s love affair with pokies

http://theconversation.com/15-things-you-should-know-about-australias-love-affair-with-pokies-49230

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Poker machines were legalised in New South Wales in 1956; the ACT in 1976; Victoria and Queensland in 1991; South Australia in 1992; Tasmania in 1997; and the Northern Territory in 1998. They are banned in Western Australia, except in the casino.

There are 196,900 poker machines in Australia; 95,012 are in NSW, with a further 46,663 in Queensland and 28,860 in Victoria. In comparison, there are just 16,440 pokies in New Zealand and 97,161 in Canada.

Australia has the most poker machines per person of any country in the world (excluding gambling destinations dominated by the casino industry like Macau and Monaco), with one machine for every 114 people.

In 2013–14, Australians lost A$11 billion on poker machines in clubs and hotels. A further A$1.5 billion is estimated to have been lost on poker machines in casinos. That’s a total of around A$700 per adult per year.

Australians lose more on gambling than any other nation, mostly because of poker machines. In 2014, Australians lost more than US$1100 per capita, compared with less than US$600 in New Zealand and the US, and less than US$500 in Canada and Britain.

In 2013–14, state and territory governments raised A$3.2 billion in taxes on poker machines in clubs and hotels – that’s 5% of state-levied tax revenue.

Between 20% and 30% of Australian adults play poker machines at least once a year (except in Western Australia). The 4% who play weekly are conservatively estimated to lose an average of A$7000 to A$8000 per year.

It’s easy to lose A$1500 per hour playing poker machines at their maximum bet size and maximum speed. Because poker machine returns are unpredictable over the short term, gamblers playing in this way could lose a greater or lesser amount.

The average poker machine in clubs and hotels makes A$56,000 per year. Some machines are much more profitable, with pokies in several venues in Victoria making more than A$200,000 each.

Poker machines have minted a select few super rich, such as James Packer (net worth A$6,080 million), Len Ainsworth (net worth A$1,840 million), Bruce Mathieson (net worth A$1,160 million), Arthur Laundy (net worth A$310 million) and the Farrell family (net worth A$275 million).

Poker machines are concentrated in Australia’s poorest suburbs. In Western Sydney’s relatively impoverished Fairfield, each adult lost an average of A$2340 on the pokies in 2010-11; in wealthy Ku-ring-gai and Willoughby, poker machine losses were just A$270 per adult.

In 2010, the Productivity Commission estimated that there were around 115,000 “problem gamblers” in Australia, who account for 40% of losses on poker machines. People who live closer to poker machine venues are more likely to experience gambling problems.

Around 30% of people who play poker machines weekly are problem gamblers or are “at risk” of becoming problem gamblers. In WA, where poker machines are only allowed inside the casino, the rate of problem gambling is one-third of that in the rest of the country.

Aside from banning poker machines outside casinos, the most promising harm-minimisation measures include reducing maximum bet limits and requiring gamblers to set a limit before they begin playing (pre-commitment).

Poker machine reform is popular in Australia: 70% of people agree that gambling should be more tightly controlled and 74% agree that people should be limited to spending an amount they nominate before they start gambling.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Jumpingmanjim posted:

This article should have cat gifs and be on buzzfeed.

Cat gifs might make it a little less depressing, yeah.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
I'm sure the bland posters grab the attention of the transfixed problem gambler. What a joke.

I haven't been around one for a while, do they have responsible gambling messages included in the animations or on the screen at all?

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

Jumpingmanjim posted:

First dogfucker on Nauru

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
Being smug and speaking in coherent sentences is all Australia needs. We set the bar pretty low.

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Halo14
Sep 11, 2001
It's a serious offense - distracting people from playing the pokies.

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